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David Gerard | 1 Oct 19:04
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Re: Obtaining copies of old photos from the Library of Congress?

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Fantastic! Thank you!

Now then everyone, let's see what else we can find ...

- d.

On 01/10/2007, Dave Pape <depape@...> wrote:

> (For some reason my e-mail was bounced, saying I'm not permitted to post
> to the list, so I'm sending this to you directly until I have a chance to
> find out what went wrong.)
>
> On Sun, 30 Sep 2007, David Gerard wrote:
> > I'm looking for replacements for [[:en:Image:Gifford-pinchot.jpg]],
> > which happens to be the same image as [[:commons:Image:Gifford
> > Pinchot.jpg]] - it's US State, not US Federal, so may not be PD. The
> > LOC has some lovely pics, all pre-1923:
> >
> >
> http://lcweb2.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/r?pp/fsaall,app,brum,detr,swann,look,got
> >  tscho,pan,horyd,genthe,var,cai,cd,hh,yan,bbcards,lomax,ils,prok,brhc,n
> >  clc,matpc,iucpub,tgmi,lamb,:@FIELD(SUBJ+@band(++Pinchot,+Gifford,+1865
> >  +1946++))
> >
> > So, it says "we have the neg." How does one get access to a scannable
> > copy of the full-sized thing? Would they have a large scan available,
> > not just the thumbnail? Etc., etc.
>
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Florian Straub | 1 Oct 19:11
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Re: Wikimedia Outreach Project

"Brianna Laugher" <brianna.laugher@...> wrote on Monday,
September 03, 
2007 8:41 AM:

> On 03/09/07, Florian Straub <Flominator@...> wrote:
>> Someone, I believe it was Magnus, wrote SumItUp which collects the first 
>> sentences of an article in all available languages. Maybe someone could 
>> write a tool, that uses CheckUsage in order to retrieve image 
>> descriptions from wikipedia articles.
>

> There used to be a bot that did that... it copied any caption the
> image was given in any Wikipedia to its Commons page. Haven't noticed
> it on my watchlist for a while so probably it's having a bot sleep.
> Let's make sure we don't re-invent the wheel, folks :)

Any idea how to find him again? I don't think that it will be much trouble 
reinventing this thing, since some people already have decent frameworks at 
hand ...

Anyone willing to search this guy or to code?

Regards,

Flo
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Florian Straub | 1 Oct 20:03
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Re: Obtaining copies of old photos from the Library ofCongress?

"David Gerard" <dgerard@...> wrote on Sunday, September 30,
2007 11:28 
AM:

> I'm looking for replacements for [[:en:Image:Gifford-pinchot.jpg]],
> which happens to be the same image as [[:commons:Image:Gifford
> Pinchot.jpg]] - it's US State, not US Federal, so may not be PD. The
> LOC has some lovely pics, all pre-1923:
>
> http://lcweb2.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/r?pp/fsaall,app,brum,detr,swann,look,gottscho,pan,horyd,genthe,var,cai,cd,hh,yan,bbcards,lomax,ils,prok,brhc,nclc,matpc,iucpub,tgmi,lamb,: <at> FIELD(SUBJ+@band(++Pinchot,+Gifford,+1865+1946++))
>
> So, it says "we have the neg." How does one get access to a scannable
> copy of the full-sized thing? Would they have a large scan available,
> not just the thumbnail? Etc., etc.

What about their chat feature called "Ask a librarian" on their website? 
I've asked for an article from a book, they scanned and mailed the copy 
about 2 hours later and the next day I even had a copy of the original 
release of it.

Tell them, what you need it for. I think it's worth a try.

Best regards,

Flo
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Matthew Brown | 1 Oct 21:32
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Re: Obtaining copies of old photos from the Library of Congress?

Very useful info - thank you, Davids!

There's quite a few cases where it's obvious that the photo is PD but
the library's staff have never got around to analyzing its likely
copyrightedness, so the full-res is not linked.

-Matt
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Brianna Laugher | 2 Oct 06:21
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File types brainstorm

Hello all,

It seems to me we haven't added any new file formats/types for a while
now. Are there any we should work on adding? Are there any reasons we
shouldn't add them?

- something for Blender? (sth. like game environments if my impression
is correct)
- SMIL? (open standard alternative to Powerpoint, I think)
- Open Office 2 formats?
- what would be best for animations? I would find it hard to believe
that GIF is optimal...

TIFF was mentioned on wikitech-l recently. The comment was made that
anything TIFF should really be a better format: jpg for photographs
and djvu for scans, and maybe png for anything else. TIFF tiles are
typically huge and all those options are much smaller.

Someone else commented on the VP that we have no documentation on DjVu
which I found to be true, from how to create DJvu files, to how to use
them in MediaWiki. I had a look on mediawiki.org and couldn't find
anything too useful either. So any hints here would be appreciated.

cheers,
Brianna

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Andre Engels | 2 Oct 09:20
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Re: Too announcement : WatchFlickr

2007/9/30, Magnus Manske <magnusmanske@...>:
> In response about the discussion on wikien-l about fair use and
> placeholder images for biographies (and other things?) I have written
> a new tool, WatchFlickr.

Looks great, and works surprisingly fast. However, when I tried it out
today, it found no Flickr images for pages where it found quite a few
before. Might there be something wrong with its connection to Flickr
at the moment?

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David Gerard | 2 Oct 11:30
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Re: File types brainstorm

On 02/10/2007, Brianna Laugher <brianna.laugher@...> wrote:

> It seems to me we haven't added any new file formats/types for a while
> now. Are there any we should work on adding? Are there any reasons we
> shouldn't add them?
> - something for Blender? (sth. like game environments if my impression
> is correct)
> - SMIL? (open standard alternative to Powerpoint, I think)
> - Open Office 2 formats?
> - what would be best for animations? I would find it hard to believe
> that GIF is optimal...

Anything that is an unencumbered and documented format (or, as with
XCF, at least has open source code) that doesn't contain active
content (i.e. code), or can be cleansed of such, I would think.

Do we have such a written standard of what constitutes a suitable format?

- d.
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Magnus Manske | 2 Oct 12:02
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Re: Too announcement : WatchFlickr

On 10/2/07, Andre Engels <andreengels@...> wrote:
> 2007/9/30, Magnus Manske <magnusmanske@...>:
> > In response about the discussion on wikien-l about fair use and
> > placeholder images for biographies (and other things?) I have written
> > a new tool, WatchFlickr.
>
> Looks great, and works surprisingly fast. However, when I tried it out
> today, it found no Flickr images for pages where it found quite a few
> before. Might there be something wrong with its connection to Flickr
> at the moment?

Don't know what happened; wrong API key. Strange.

Works now again.

Magnus
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Magnus Manske | 2 Oct 12:10
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Re: Wikimedia Outreach Project

On 10/1/07, Florian Straub <flominator@...> wrote:
> "Brianna Laugher" <brianna.laugher@...> wrote on Monday,
September 03,
> 2007 8:41 AM:
>
> > On 03/09/07, Florian Straub <Flominator@...> wrote:
> >> Someone, I believe it was Magnus, wrote SumItUp which collects the first
> >> sentences of an article in all available languages. Maybe someone could
> >> write a tool, that uses CheckUsage in order to retrieve image
> >> descriptions from wikipedia articles.
> >
>
> > There used to be a bot that did that... it copied any caption the
> > image was given in any Wikipedia to its Commons page. Haven't noticed
> > it on my watchlist for a while so probably it's having a bot sleep.
> > Let's make sure we don't re-invent the wheel, folks :)
>
> Any idea how to find him again? I don't think that it will be much trouble
> reinventing this thing, since some people already have decent frameworks at
> hand ...
>
> Anyone willing to search this guy or to code?

If the mystery author is not found, I'll commence with wheel
re-invention tonight :-)

Magnus
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Yann Forget | 2 Oct 12:22

DJVU

Brianna Laugher a écrit :
> Hello all,
...
> Someone else commented on the VP that we have no documentation on DjVu
> which I found to be true, from how to create DJvu files, to how to use
> them in MediaWiki. I had a look on mediawiki.org and couldn't find
> anything too useful either. So any hints here would be appreciated.

We already have that in French on French Wikisource.
http://fr.wikisource.org/wiki/Aide:Cr%C3%A9er_un_fichier_DjVu
It just needs to be copied to Commons and translated.
And there is a {{djvu}} template.

> cheers,
> Brianna

Regards,

Yann
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