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Cary Bass | 1 Jan 19:25

Re: Anglo-Saxonisation of the commons

I am fairly certain that the policy on Commons is that cities and other
localities are in the native language.  Therefore München and Praha are
absolutely correct and the categories must be fixed.

Cary

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> [mailto:commons-l-bounces@...]On Behalf Of Bryan Tong Minh
> Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 4:56 PM
> To: Wikimedia Commons Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [Commons-l] Anglo-Saxonisation of the commons
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>
> The discussion about Munich can be found at the top of the Village
> Pump, or maybe in the latest archive by now.
>
> Bryan
>
> On 12/29/06, jkelly@...
<jkelly@...> wrote:
> >    Hi,
> >
> > Quoting Patrick-Emil Zörner <paddyez@...>:
> >
> > > I am quite appalled about how things have a nasty tendency to a nasty
> > > outcome on commons. München is being moved to Munich, Praha is moved
> > > to Prague,... and all on a specious kind of based argumentation. I
> > > know how the cities are called. I have seen the traffic signs! The
> > > cities are actually called München, Praha,...
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geni | 2 Jan 00:18
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Re: "How the anti-copyright lobby makes big business richer"

On 12/29/06, David Gerard <dgerard@...> wrote:
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/12/29/photojournalism_and_copyright/
>

Seems to lack a unified argument. First complains about people
ignoring copyright and then complains about people not ignoring but
buying the rights cheaply.

Indeed the existence of large search able databases would appear to be
a greater problem for his business model than the copyright apathetic
(true anti-copyright are in my experience pretty uncommon).

It also appears to stick exlusively to US law which I would argue is
something of an error

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Gregory Maxwell | 2 Jan 01:34
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Re: "How the anti-copyright lobby makes big business richer"

On 1/1/07, geni <geniice@...> wrote:
> Seems to lack a unified argument. First complains about people
> ignoring copyright and then complains about people not ignoring but
> buying the rights cheaply.

For the most part folks on Dpreview were not impressed:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1032&message=21449131&q=theregister&qf=m

The author freely intermixed sever distinct phenomenon.

[snip]
> It also appears to stick exlusively to US law which I would argue is
> something of an error

More like sticking exclusively to his misconceptions of copyright,
such as the idea that it exists to enable him to make a living in his
choice of professions. :)

On 1/1/07, David Gerard <dgerard@...> wrote:
>I note that free-content is not quite mentioned. I am somewhat pleased
>that many photographers' sense of entitlement *is* mentioned.
[snip]

Sure, although it makes me wonder why the By and By-Sa 2.5 revision CC
licenses are so popular, since they don't demand attribution to the
photographer at all so long as the work has been submitted by someone
to a site whos terms of service designate someone else to receive
attribution...
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Brianna Laugher | 2 Jan 01:43
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Re: Anglo-Saxonisation of the commons

On 02/01/07, Cary Bass <bastique <at> bellsouth.net> wrote:
> I am fairly certain that the policy on Commons is that cities and other
> localities are in the native language.  Therefore München and Praha are
> absolutely correct and the categories must be fixed.

No...
did you ever notice [[category:北京]] ? (or even worse, maybe
[[category:transport in 北京]]?)

Nobody likes enforcing English-only categories to further Anglo-saxon
supremism or the like, but until we have proper category redirects...

regards,
Brianna
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Cary Bass | 2 Jan 03:16

Re: Anglo-Saxonisation of the commons

It must have been a mental infarction.  Galleries are done using native
language and redirects.  Categories have generally been done in English.

~~~~ (Cary)

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> [mailto:commons-l-bounces <at> wikimedia.org]On Behalf Of Brianna Laugher
> Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 7:43 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Commons-l] Anglo-Saxonisation of the commons
>
>
> On 02/01/07, Cary Bass <bastique <at> bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > I am fairly certain that the policy on Commons is that cities and other
> > localities are in the native language.  Therefore München and Praha are
> > absolutely correct and the categories must be fixed.
>
> No...
> did you ever notice [[category:北京]] ? (or even worse, maybe
> [[category:transport in 北京]]?)
>
> Nobody likes enforcing English-only categories to further Anglo-saxon
> supremism or the like, but until we have proper category redirects...
>
> regards,
> Brianna
> user:pfctdayelise
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jfulrich | 3 Jan 02:28

Re: Anglo-Saxonisation of the commons

I agree.

                Laleena

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Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 21:16:03 -0500

>It must have been a mental infarction.  Galleries are done using
>native
>language and redirects.  Categories have generally been done in
>English.
>
>~~~~ (Cary)
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: commons-l-bounces@...
>> [mailto:commons-l-bounces@...]On Behalf Of Brianna
>Laugher
>> Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 7:43 PM
>> To: Wikimedia Commons Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [Commons-l] Anglo-Saxonisation of the commons
>>
>>
>> On 02/01/07, Cary Bass <bastique@...> wrote:
>> > I am fairly certain that the policy on Commons is that cities and
>other
>> > localities are in the native language.  Therefore München and
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jfulrich | 3 Jan 02:30

Re: English Wikipedia

Any issues on Wikipedia that need correcting?

                             LaleenaWiki
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Robin Schwab | 3 Jan 22:58
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Category renaming (was: Anglo-Saxonisation of the commons)

In the recent days I noticed an increase in conflicts about category 
renaming. Two cases: Category:Churches_in_Italy (and others) and 
Category:Cities_and_villages_by_country

I think we would benefit from a formalized system for category 
renamings. The damage is enormous if a well working category tree gets 
destroyed or damaged. Currently all places worldwide are categorized as 
cities independent of their size!

An idea could be that there must be a deletion request for the category 
to be moved. What do you think of this?

Regards

Robin
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Fredrik Josefsson | 4 Jan 01:15
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Re: UI design on image pages



bawolff <bawolff+wn-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> skrev:
Why not just edit stuff in the [[mediawiki:*]] namespace to make the
uploader field more prominent in the file history? Whomever uploaded
it is usually the author, and you don't need users to do the "right
thing" its automatic.

-bawolff

It is difficult to implement this, as the developers have told me.

I do think that if we want to develop this free stuff concept, our software needs to be more user friendly. Wikipedia is getting big, but it is still too complicated for ordinary people to do things that should be simple, such as uploading files.

The upload form which requires the user to copy and paste a template is not something I'd expect every user to understand (for example my grandparents, but maybe not my parents either). And the current language translation of template is hardly optimal.

Fredrik.

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David Monniaux | 4 Jan 08:48
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Re: UI design on image pages

Fredrik Josefsson a écrit :
> I do think that if we want to develop this free stuff concept, our
> software needs to be more user friendly. Wikipedia is getting big, but
> it is still too complicated for ordinary people to do things that
> should be simple, such as uploading files. 
This is not necessarily a bad thing, since many many people out there
seem to have very inaccurate ideas of copyright and other issues related
to images. This is not YouTube.

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