Romaine Wiki | 17 Sep 17:49 2014
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KML scripts: we need a central storage

Hello all,

We have a central storage location for files like photos, videos and sounds: Commons. But it seems there is no central storage space for KML script files. Those files are used for templates on various Wikipedias to show a route of a subject on Google Maps, Bing Maps, etc.

The files are used in this template on en-wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Attached_KML

But also in templates in other Wikipedias. The same as with photos, a central location for these files is needed to prevent every Wikipedia have the same KML file. It seems logic to me to have a central location for this.

Can we use Commons for this?

Romaine




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Federico Leva (Nemo | 13 Sep 12:14 2014
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Re: [Multimedia] Hashing Wikimedia Commons

Daniel Schwen, 09/09/2014 16:34:
>     IMHO worrying about load for such a small number of downloads (less than
>     25 millions) is silly. Just use a sensible, common size, for instance
> 
> 
> I don't think it is silly to point out best practices on an archived and
> searchable mailing list.

Sure. The best practice is "don't worry".

Nemo

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Fabrice Florin | 12 Sep 05:02 2014
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Media Viewer Consultation Results

Thanks to everyone who participated in the recent Media Viewer Consultation! 

Our multimedia team appreciates the many constructive suggestions to improve the viewing experience for readers and casual editors on Wikimedia projects. We reviewed about 130 community suggestions and prioritized a number of important development tasks for the next release of this feature. Those prioritized tasks have now been added to the improvements list on the consultation page. (1)

We have already started development of the most critical improvements: 'must-have’ features that this consultation helped identify and that have been validated through user testing — see research findings (2) and design prototype (3). We plan to complete all these 'must have' improvements by the end of October and will deploy them incrementally, starting this week. For more details, see our improvement plan (4) and development tasks for the next 6 weeks (5).

As we release these improvements, we will post regular updates on the Media Viewer talk page (6). We invite you to review these improvements and share your feedback. 

The foundation is also launching a file metadata cleanup drive (7) to add machine-readable attributions and licenses on files lack them. This will lay the groundwork for the structured data partnership (8) with the Wikidata team, to enable better search and re-use of media in our projects. We encourage everyone to join these efforts.

This community consultation was very productive for us and we look forward to more collaborations in the future. 

Thanks again to all our gracious contributors. We consider ourselves lucky to have so many great community partners.

Onward! 


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Tilman Bayer | 6 Sep 09:36 2014
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Fwd: [PRESS RELEASE] Wikimedia Commons celebrates its 10th anniversary

Hi all,

ten years ago this Sunday, Wikimedia Commons went online. We've sent out the below press release to draw some attention to this occasion, and also published a separate blog post by Lila which goes a bit more into the project's history (such as the very first photograph uploaded to Commons):

https://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/09/05/celebrating-the-10th-anniversary-of-wikimedia-commons/


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Wikimedia Commons celebrates its 10th anniversary

  • 22 million+ images make Wikimedia Commons world’s largest freely licensed educational media repository.

(San Francisco, USA) September 5, 2014 -- This Sunday marks the 10th anniversary of Wikimedia Commons. Its creation was officially announced on September 7, 2004.

More than 22 million media files have been uploaded by the Wikimedia volunteer community over the decade since Commons came into being. The Wikimedia Foundation is extremely grateful to have a dedicated community of creators and institutions who continue to share their images and other media so that the project has flourished and will continue to thrive.

Wikimedia Foundation Executive Director Lila Tretikov said: “Many people don’t know that the incredible, freely-licensed images that illustrate Wikipedia are curated and maintained by the volunteer community of Wikimedia Commons editors. Wikimedia Commons is the visual engine of the Wikimedia projects, and we look forward to its next decade of contributions, collaboration, and sharing.”

In the past ten years, creators have contributed to Commons in a variety of ways, including the annual Wiki Loves Monuments contest, which is currently inviting submissions through the end of September. The Guinness Book of World Records named Wiki Loves Monuments the largest photo contest in the world, and it has inspired more 900,000 image uploads since 2010.

On this occasion we also celebrate the partnerships with dozens of cultural institutions (GLAM) from around the world that have donated portions of their collections. Their contributions have allowed Wikimedia Commons to become a vital resource for educational and historical content, and ensured the increasing depth and richness of the illustrations for articles on Wikipedia.

The Foundation recognizes the vibrant Wikimedia Commons community, which is responsible for increasing the availability of freely licensed images and information to the public. The Commons community takes its role as a guardian of the rights of creators extremely seriously, working diligently to confirm authorship and licensing status of the media uploaded to Commons. This work is reflected in the low number of DMCA takedown requests received by the Wikimedia Foundation every year.

Erik Moeller, then a volunteer Wikimedian, first proposed the Commons in March 2004 as a common repository for the images that Wikipedians had begun uploading to illustrate the free online encyclopedia’s growing collection of articles. Today, Moeller is the Wikimedia Foundation’s Deputy Director and VP of Engineering, and Commons is the world’s largest repository of freely licensed educational media on the internet.

“The Wikimedia Commons community is the reason these freely-licensed images exist for everyone to enjoy." said Moeller. “Our next steps are to prepare Wikimedia Commons for the future, including support for rich, structured metadata; a massively improved user experience for uploading media; better tools for editing media content through the web; and better support for video. The first decade was just the beginning.”

The Foundation is thrilled to be celebrating these and many more achievements of the project’s first decade.


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The Wikimedia Foundation is the non-profit organization that operates Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. According to comScore Media Metrix, Wikipedia and the other projects operated by the Wikimedia Foundation receive 413 million unique visitors per month, making them the fifth-most popular web property world-wide (comScore, July 2014). Available in 287 languages, Wikipedia contains more than 32 million articles contributed by a global volunteer community of roughly 80,000 people. Based in San Francisco, California, the Wikimedia Foundation is an audited, 501(c)(3) charity that is funded primarily through donations and grants.

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Gerard Meijssen | 6 Sep 08:05 2014
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Re: Clear objectives that motivate us for change

Hoi,
Magnus created a new tool [1] that shows that in a limited way we can already search for media files in Commons using Wikidata data.

This is where we are at this point in time. From this example of what we can already do, we can build something that is truly useful and usable.
Thanks,
      GerardM



On 4 September 2014 11:57, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
Hoi,
I do not know if you were present at the recent chat, I could not be there but I could read the log ... You may have been at the chat, you may have read the log [1].

I did read the log and it did not motivate me at all. If anything it made me sad. From what I read, people were concerned about the things they are currently working on and it was all about ensuring that nothing would be lost nothing would change really.

I did not get any feeling for the reasons why the Wikidatification of media files is worthwhile. I feel really bad about this because the purpose of it all is so important.

It is all about PEOPLE.

People that will find images with "een hond, een kat, een paard" or "ein Hund, eine Katze, ein Pferd" ....

When these people are eight years old and "only" 50% of pictures with such a subject like dog cat or horse can be found in this way, we have accomplished a lot. It is a 100% improvement.

All the current categories and templates have their place and the information that is in that data will be converted straight away or eventually. It does not matter really, What matters is that we focus on the application of what we do. Who benefits, how do we transition to where we want to be. How do we make sure that we gain the most of all the work we do, have done and will do.

It starts with obvious benefits.. Enabling people to use the media files is what the wikidatification of media files is about. That may already be too abstract; when it is, it is about finding doggies, kitties and horsies..

When the Wikidatification is about such tangible objectives, who will object ? With objectives like that, the devil is still in the detail but we will see the forest from the trees.
Thanks,
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Toni Sant | 5 Sep 12:10 2014
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Re: Commons-l Digest, Vol 112, Issue 4

Thanks, Fae.

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Dr Vinesh Patel, who is a long standing Wikipedian and a medical doctor
based in London, has the following questions in relation to work on
WikiProject Medicine.

1. We would like to have a rotating format for each surgical instrument,
ideally. Something like the ones on this page
http://www.ajax-zoom.com/examples/example15.php (hover over image and move
cursor to see) - is this possible on Wikipedia? How would we upload it.
2. Can we use Adobe lightroom as a photo processor?

He is not subscribed to this mailing list, so I will relay any responses on
to him.

Many thanks,

Toni

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On 03/09/2014, Toni Sant <toni.sant-AeOJrEpdGNeDdCuiJf/lWA@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> Dr Vinesh Patel, who is a long standing Wikipedian and a medical doctor
> based in London, has the following questions in relation to work on
> WikiProject Medicine.
>
> 1. We would like to have a rotating format for each surgical instrument,
> ideally. Something like the ones on this page
> http://www.ajax-zoom.com/examples/example15.php (hover over image and move
> cursor to see) - is this possible on Wikipedia? How would we upload it.

Not without creating a new tool, as far as I am aware. Mouse-over
events are not allowed in SVG (which would be one of the simplest ways
of doing it). GIFs showing rotating instruments would be allowed. I
have successfully created these from image sets from off-wiki websites
in the past, and they display nicely in Wikipedia articles without
issues from re-scaling etc. There is a maximum limit on GIF size based
on the total sum of image resolutions making the animation, but this
is plenty for, say, a reasonable 30 second animation of a rotating
tool below 400x400px.

> 2. Can we use Adobe lightroom as a photo processor?

Depends on the solution. I created animated GIFs using standard
command line instructions wrapped in a bit of Python.

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Jeremy Baron | 4 Sep 12:44 2014

Re: Does anyone know...

On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Magnus Manske
<magnusmanske <at> googlemail.com> wrote:
> Except it's not in the interwiki table either.

it sure is there:

MariaDB [commonswiki_p]> select * from page,iwlinks where
page_namespace=6 AND page_title='Edinburgh_Castle_-_06.jpg' AND
iwl_from=page.page_id AND iwl_prefix='wikidata'\G
*************************** 1. row ***************************
              page_id: 35057065
       page_namespace: 6
           page_title: Edinburgh_Castle_-_06.jpg
    page_restrictions:
         page_counter: 0
     page_is_redirect: 0
          page_is_new: 0
          page_random: 0.918411261694
         page_touched: 20140904101906
   page_links_updated: 20140904070656
          page_latest: 133476796
             page_len: 823
page_no_title_convert: 0
   page_content_model: NULL
             iwl_from: 35057065
           iwl_prefix: wikidata
            iwl_title: Q17570962
*************************** 2. row ***************************
              page_id: 35057065
       page_namespace: 6
           page_title: Edinburgh_Castle_-_06.jpg
    page_restrictions:
         page_counter: 0
     page_is_redirect: 0
          page_is_new: 0
          page_random: 0.918411261694
         page_touched: 20140904101906
   page_links_updated: 20140904070656
          page_latest: 133476796
             page_len: 823
page_no_title_convert: 0
   page_content_model: NULL
             iwl_from: 35057065
           iwl_prefix: wikidata
            iwl_title: Wikidata:Main_page
2 rows in set (0.00 sec)

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Magnus Manske | 4 Sep 12:44 2014

Re: Does anyone know...

Ah, nevermind, it's not in the /language link/ table; there is another one /iwlinks/ which seems to have this...

Cheers,


On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Magnus Manske <magnusmanske <at> googlemail.com> wrote:



On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Jeremy Baron <jeremy-mpUk35sXFjzz1n+OaKNE4w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 10:26 AM, Magnus Manske
<magnusmanske-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> ... how this:
>
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Edinburgh_Castle_-_06.jpg
>
> can contain a link to Wikidata, but this:
>
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALinkSearch&target=www.wikidata.org%2Fwiki%2FQ17570962
>
> does not find the link?
>
> (not a "protocol spelling" issue; I checked the Labs database mirror, not a
> trace of the link.)

because it's interwiki not external?

Except it's not in the interwiki table either.
 

elaborate on what you expect and why? is this just an example or this
particular instance is special?

It seems prevalent for the {{On Wikidata}} template, at the very least.
 

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Jeremy Baron | 4 Sep 12:47 2014

Re: Hashing Wikimedia Commons

On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 10:40 AM, Daniel Kinzler <daniel <at> brightbyte.de> wrote:
> To get a thumbnail, you can directly manipulate that URL, by inserting "thumb/"
> and the desired size in the correct location (maybe Special:Redirect can do that
> for you, but I do not know how):
>
> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/30C3_Commons_Machinery_2.jpg/640px-30C3_Commons_Machinery_2.jpg

you should use one of the standard sizes that we're already using anyway.

(maybe a mediaviewer size. not sure what those are offhand)

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Gergo Tisza | 4 Sep 16:41 2014
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Re: Hashing Wikimedia Commons

On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 12:26 PM, Jonas Öberg <jonas <at> commonsmachinery.se> wrote:
But in order to do so, we need information from Commons, and we want to make this as easy on the WMF servers as possible, so we'd appreciate some help and pointers. What we're looking at retrieving is information about (1) title, (2) author, (3) license, and (4) thumbnails of medium size.

Not sure what you mean by title (the filename might be the closest thing - files have a description but that's long and can contain arbitrary HTML), but for author/license you can use the imageinfo/extmetadata API. [1][2] (The author name might also contain HTML, and in many cases complex structure like a listing of multiple authors.)

The ongoing structured data project [3] will hopefully make it easier to process image attribution metadata.

From what we can understand, you can request any size thumbnail on an image simply by prefixing it with the size you want (like 123x-Filename.jpg). But it seems really silly to always request 640x for instance, since that would mean the WMF servers would need to generate that for us specifically if the resolution doesn't exist.

What we'd find much more appealing is to be able to determine before making the call what sizes already exist and which can be retrieved without the WMF servers needing to rescale them for us. And while the viewer on Commons do seem to offer thumbnails in various sizes, we can't seem to get that information from any API.

There is no way to know whether a size exists already (other than trying). Standardizing some common sizes is an ongoing effort, so the result is not set in stone yet, but we will probably end up with the standard screen widths, such as 640 and 800 pixel; various tools use tools use those already.


[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?format=jsonfm&action=query&titles=File:30C3_Commons_Machinery_2.jpg&prop=imageinfo&iiprop=extmetadata&iiextmetadatafilter=ObjectName|Artist|LicenseShortName
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Jean-Frédéric | 4 Sep 13:49 2014
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Re: Hashing Wikimedia Commons


> The first three we can get from pretty much either API, or extract directly from
> a dump file. The latter is eluding us though, for two reasons. One is that a
> file, like 30C3_Commons_Machinery_2.jpg, is actually in the /b/ba/ directory -
> but where this /b/ba/ comes from (a hash?) is unclear to us now, and it's not
> something we find in the dumps - though we can get it from one of the APIs.

Yes, /b/ba ist based on the first two digits of the MD5 hash of the title:

md5( "30C3_Commons_Machinery_2.jpg" ) -> ba253c78d894a80788940a3ca765debb

But this is "arcane knowledge" which nobody should really rely on. The canonical
way would be to use
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Redirect/file/30C3_Commons_Machinery_2.jpg

Which generates a redirect to
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/ba/30C3_Commons_Machinery_2.jpg

To get a thumbnail, you can directly manipulate that URL, by inserting "thumb/"
and the desired size in the correct location (maybe Special:Redirect can do that
for you, but I do not know how):

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/30C3_Commons_Machinery_2.jpg/640px-30C3_Commons_Machinery_2.jpg

If I am not mistaken you can use thumb.php to get the needed thumb?
<https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/thumb.php?f=Example.jpg&width=100>


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