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G. Ken Holman | 22 Jul 2003 16:50
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Fwd: Re: [XSL-FO] Re: pagination


Hi folks!

Herewith please find a requirement for including pages in the output of an 
XSL formatter that do not participate in page numbering.

I hope this helps with your new requirements.

................... Ken

>To: XSL-FO <at> yahoogroups.com
>From: "G. Ken Holman" <gkholman <at> CraneSoftwrights.com>
>Subject: Re: [XSL-FO] Re: pagination
>
>At 2003-07-22 14:31 +0000, martin_hofacker wrote:
>>I want to control the pagination indication of 2nd and further pages.
>>It should display the page-number of the page-sequence minus 1 (1st
>>page 'no entry'; 2nd page 'continuation 1'; 3rd page 'continuation
>>2'; and so on). I don´t know when the first page break will happen.
>>The first page contains a table with a unknown number of entries (it
>>depends on the entries in the database). Depending to your answer, i
>>don´t think that i can solve this problem with the fo:marker.
>
>I agree it cannot be solved with fo:marker, nor do I now believe it can be 
>solved with XSL-FO.  I had misunderstood your requirement as I thought 
>might have happened.
>
>Interestingly, students in my last class needed something not in XSL-FO 
>that would help here: an indication that a given page geometry not 
>participate in the page numbering scheme.  This would allow them to
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Paul Grosso | 22 Jul 2003 17:37

Re: Fwd: Re: [XSL-FO] Re: pagination


Ken,

As you point out, the parity of the page number is tied
to the parity of the page type itself.  This is what makes
non-participating page numbering difficult and suspect.
Specifically, if a page has no page number, is it even
or odd and what do you do with a page-number-citation
to it?

paul

At 10:50 2003 07 22 -0400, G. Ken Holman wrote:

>Hi folks!
>
>Herewith please find a requirement for including pages in the output of an XSL formatter that do not
participate in page numbering.
>
>I hope this helps with your new requirements.
>
>................... Ken
>
>>To: XSL-FO <at> yahoogroups.com
>>From: "G. Ken Holman" <gkholman <at> CraneSoftwrights.com>
>>Subject: Re: [XSL-FO] Re: pagination
>>
>>At 2003-07-22 14:31 +0000, martin_hofacker wrote:
>>>I want to control the pagination indication of 2nd and further pages.
>>>It should display the page-number of the page-sequence minus 1 (1st
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G. Ken Holman | 22 Jul 2003 18:29
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Re: Fwd: Re: [XSL-FO] Re: pagination


At 2003-07-22 10:37 -0500, Paul Grosso wrote:
>As you point out, the parity of the page number is tied
>to the parity of the page type itself.  This is what makes
>non-participating page numbering difficult and suspect.

I grant there are obstacles to designing an appropriate interface, but I 
did not want the user requirement to go un-noted.

>Specifically, if a page has no page number, is it even
>or odd

As I mentioned to the original poster and to my students two weeks ago, 
there are no left-page/right-page distinctions or page tally distinctions 
in 1.0 that would be required, only page number parity distinctions.

>and what do you do with a page-number-citation to it?

I would think that a page that does not participate would have a choice of 
being the same page number as the last page that did participate, or one 
plus the page number of the last page that participated.

However, I don't always think of all of the nuances and would leave it to 
others to propose ways of meeting real-world publishing requirements.  I'll 
do my best to identify what my students see as requirements for future 
revisions.

Thanks, Paul, for taking the time to comment!

.................... Ken
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Werner Donné | 24 Jul 2003 14:19
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Measurement unit ex


Hi,

XSL-FO uses the x-height notion. Why then isn't there the relative measurement unit "ex"?

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Werner.
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