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FYI: Editors' homepage

Hello,

The Communication Team has set up a page whose goal is to serve as the
central homepage for W3C editors, where they can find links to the most
useful resources for them:
http://www.w3.org/2003/Editors/

It is now linked from the spec-prod mailing list archives:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/spec-prod/

Please let me know if you have any comments or suggestions to make this
page more useful.

Regards,

Dom
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W3C/ERCIM
mailto:dom <at> w3.org

WCAG and GEO merge their extensions to xmlspec

Norm and others,

GEO (I18N) and WCAG (WAI) groups have just produced the first version of
a single DTD based on an extended version of xmlSpec that will support
both their techniques documents.  

If you are interested in seeing the DTD and its documentation look at
'Miscellaneous working documents' [
http://www.w3.org/International/geo/#miscdocs ] 

Besides adding structural elements to support techniques, we made other
changes, including:

- 	created %i18n.att (xml:lang, dir) and added to common.att and
common-idreq.att

- 	created %l10n.att (locn-note, locn-alert, translate) and added
to common.att and common.idreq.att

- 	added general entities: lrm, rlm, zwj, zwnj

- 	added bdo to %local.emph.class (I will remove this later to
adopt the XHTML2 approach)

-	removed phrase from %tech.pcd.mix - didn't seem appropriate

- 	added %ubiquitous.phrase.class containing phrase, bdo, emph

- 	added %ubiquitous.phrase.class to code and loc

RE: Editors' homepage

New XML Spec release

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Folks,

I published a new release of XML Spec today. Version 2.5 adds
preverrataloc and translationloc to the header as well as rfc2119 to
the inlines. (I haven't (yet) tried to integrate the changes suggested
by GEO (I18N) and WCAG (WAI), but I've put that on my list.)

There's a new release of the base HTML and FO stylesheets to support
the new elements.

  http://www.w3.org/2002/xmlspec/

                                        Be seeing you,
                                          norm

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Re: FYI: Editors' homepage

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/ Dominique Hazaël-Massieux <dom <at> w3.org> was heard to say:
| Please let me know if you have any comments or suggestions to make this
| page more useful.

Can you make sure this page points to http://www.w3.org/2002/xmlspec/
for recent changes to the XML Spec DTD and stylesheets. Thanks.

                                        Be seeing you,
                                          norm

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XML Standards Architect | but error is immense.
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Re: New XML Spec release

Hello Norm,

Many thanks for all your work.

At 13:43 03/07/11 -0400, Norman Walsh wrote:

>Folks,
>
>I published a new release of XML Spec today. Version 2.5 adds
>preverrataloc and translationloc to the header as well as rfc2119 to
>the inlines.

Great. Please note that mainly due to the great work of Ivan Herman,
we now have an integrated, RDF-based system for translations. As
a consequence, the translations for e.g. the XML Recommendation can
simply be found at:
http://www.w3.org/2003/03/Translations/OverviewTech.html#REC-xml

Some parts of this system are still under development, in particular
we want to have a way to keep track of volunteers (people interested
in collaborating on a translation and people who have started a
translation), and want to make it possible to submit translations
with a form.
Because of this, many specifications still (also) keep their
own, hand-managed translations page. But we expect that their
number will become smaller and smaller.
What I'm wondering now is whether there is any way to make
this link to the translation page (semi)-automatic, i.e. by
extracting the relevant piece from the 'latest version' link.

Regards,    Martin.

>(I haven't (yet) tried to integrate the changes suggested
>by GEO (I18N) and WCAG (WAI), but I've put that on my list.)
>
>There's a new release of the base HTML and FO stylesheets to support
>the new elements.
>
>   http://www.w3.org/2002/xmlspec/
>
>                                         Be seeing you,
>                                           norm
>
>- --
>Norman.Walsh <at> Sun.COM    | A moment's insight is sometimes worth a
>XML Standards Architect | life's experience.--Oliver Wendell Holmes
>Web Tech. and Standards |
>Sun Microsystems, Inc.  |
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Re: New XML Spec release (translation database)

On Fri, 2003-07-11 at 15:19, Martin Duerst wrote:
> Hello Norm,
> 
> Many thanks for all your work.
> 
> At 13:43 03/07/11 -0400, Norman Walsh wrote:
> 
> >Folks,
> >
> >I published a new release of XML Spec today. Version 2.5 adds
> >preverrataloc and translationloc to the header as well as rfc2119 to
> >the inlines.
> 
> Great. Please note that mainly due to the great work of Ivan Herman,
> we now have an integrated, RDF-based system for translations. As
> a consequence, the translations for e.g. the XML Recommendation can
> simply be found at:
> http://www.w3.org/2003/03/Translations/OverviewTech.html#REC-xml

How do I get to the RDF version of that page? I don't
see any "and for those of you that want to peek
under the hood..." links.

Ah! found it... up to "translations at W3C"
and down to "Further technical information"
and "translation management" and I get...
http://www.w3.org/2003/03/Translations/Overview.html
http://www.w3.org/2003/03/Translations/trans.rdf

--

-- 
Dan Connolly, W3C http://www.w3.org/People/Connolly/

Re: New XML Spec release

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/ Martin Duerst <duerst <at> w3.org> was heard to say:
| What I'm wondering now is whether there is any way to make
| this link to the translation page (semi)-automatic, i.e. by
| extracting the relevant piece from the 'latest version' link.

If there's an infallible algorithm for transforming the latest version
URI into the appropriate translation page, I'd be happy to support it.

(How this interacts with TAG issue metadataInURI-31[1][2] is left as an
exercise for the reader. 

                                        Be seeing you,
                                          norm

[1] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#metadataInURI-31
[2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Jul/0035.html
    (and the following thread)
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XML Standards Architect | possible objections must be first
Web Tech. and Standards | overcome.--Dr. Johnson
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Re: New XML Spec release (translation database)

Dan,

you found the essential one... not also that you can call the CGI script 
requesting the returned value to be in RDF. It will collect the right 
information for, eg, a specific document and return the RDF part.

Actually, nobody used that alternative yet, I am sure there are bugs 
there. And I am also sure you will tell me if you find any... however: I 
am on vacations. Ie, I may or may not react immediately!

See

http://www.w3.org/2003/03/Translations/byTechnology?technology=REC-xml&output=RDF

Ivan

Dan Connolly wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-07-11 at 15:19, Martin Duerst wrote:
> 
>>Hello Norm,
>>
>>Many thanks for all your work.
>>
>>At 13:43 03/07/11 -0400, Norman Walsh wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Folks,
>>>
>>>I published a new release of XML Spec today. Version 2.5 adds
>>>preverrataloc and translationloc to the header as well as rfc2119 to
>>>the inlines.
>>
>>Great. Please note that mainly due to the great work of Ivan Herman,
>>we now have an integrated, RDF-based system for translations. As
>>a consequence, the translations for e.g. the XML Recommendation can
>>simply be found at:
>>http://www.w3.org/2003/03/Translations/OverviewTech.html#REC-xml
> 
> 
> How do I get to the RDF version of that page? I don't
> see any "and for those of you that want to peek
> under the hood..." links.
> 
> Ah! found it... up to "translations at W3C"
> and down to "Further technical information"
> and "translation management" and I get...
> http://www.w3.org/2003/03/Translations/Overview.html
> http://www.w3.org/2003/03/Translations/trans.rdf
> 
> 

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