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[Apologies for cross posting]

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CALL FOR PAPERS
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Semantic Authoring, Annotation and Knowledge Markup (SAAKM 2009)
http://saakm2009.semanticauthoring.org/
1 September 2009

co-located with the 5th International Conference on
Knowledge Capture (K-Cap 2009)
Redondo Beach, California, USA, 1-4 September 2009
http://kcap09.stanford.edu/
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Capturing knowledge by using markup techniques and by supporting semantic
annotations is a major technique for creating metadata. It is beneficial
in a wide range of content-oriented intelligent applications.
One important application for instance is the Semantic Web. The research
about the WWW currently strives to augment syntactic information
already present in the Web by semantic metadata in order to achieve a
Semantic Web that human and software agents can understand. Here, one
of the most urgent challenges now is a knowledge-capturing problem,
i.e., how one may turn existing syntactic resources into knowledge
structures. A solution is to markup web documents in order to create
metadata on the web or to author new documents in a way that they
contain markup directly.

Another application is the indexing and searching of multimedia (and
multilingual) data. It is difficult to completely process the content of
multimedia data, even with technologies based on natural language
processing, image processing, machine vision and speech recognition.
Therefore, semantic annotation is one of the promising methodologies
to define semantic structures on the content.

WORKSHOP GOALS

This workshop aims at bringing together members of different overlapping
communities that share the interest on semantic authoring and annotation
for developing methods and tools:
* Semantic Web researchers who use semantic authoring and annotation
to enrich the web with distributed relational meta-data in order to
enable a machine-readable web.
* Members of the human language technology community, developing
information extraction systems for the generation of meta-data
* People from the multimedia content domain, indexing and searching
of multimedia (and multilingual) data.
* Researchers who address innovative topics and applications by semantic
annotation (semantic annotation of databases, annotation of
web/grid services, semantic hypertext, etc.)
This will give an opportunity to push further the discussion upon the
potential of semantic annotation across these communities.

TOPICS OF INTEREST

Potential topics include but are not limited to:
* semantic authoring and publishing
* document engineering
* deriving semantics from document structure and content
* ontology-based authoring and markup
* knowledge markup in the Semantic Web
* standards for supporting knowledge markup, e.g., RDFa, microformats, GRDDL
* using semantic annotations to define knowledge
* integrated software architecture based on semantic annotation
* multimedia annotation (e.g., by using MPEG-7)
* annotation of software components
* linguistic aspects of semantic annotation
* capturing knowledge through Information Extraction and NLP
* text mining for creating knowledge markup
* mining semantic information from blogs, forums or news sources.
* collaborative, shared tagging and annotation
* evaluation of annotation frameworks
* semantic annotation in Semantic Wikis
* semantic annotation of multilingual web sources
* deriving formal semantics from (flat or hierarchical) tagging systems
* vocabularies and ontologies for semantic authoring and annotation
* tools for supporting knowledge markup, semantic annotation,
 semantic authoring, ...

IMPORTANT DATES

Submission deadline: June 15, 2009
Notification of acceptance: July 15, 2009
Camera-ready paper submission: July 27, 2009
Workshop date: September 1, 2009

ORGANIZING COMMITTEE

* Siegfried Handschuh, DERI Galway, Ireland
* Michael Sintek, DFKI, Kaiserslautern, Germany
* Nigel Collier, NII, Japan
* Anita de Waard, University of Utrecht, Netherlands

SUBMISSION GUIDELINES

We invite submissions of full technical papers and short position papers.
Authors of accepted technical and position papers will be invited to
present their papers in the workshop

Format requirements for submissions of technical papers are:
* Full papers - should not exceed 8 pages in length (including references)
* Position papers - are expected up to 3 pages.

Papers must be submitted as PDF and strictly adhere to ACM proceedings format
(http://www.acm.org/sigs/publications/proceedings-templates).
For submissions, the authors are expected to use the following link:
http://www.easychair.org/conferences/?conf=saakm09

K-CAP 2009 Workshop on Semantic Authoring, Annotation and Knowledge Markup (SAAKM 2009)

[Apologies for cross posting]

----------------------------------------------------------------------
CALL FOR PAPERS
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Semantic Authoring, Annotation and Knowledge Markup (SAAKM 2009)
http://saakm2009.semanticauthoring.org/
1 September 2009

co-located with the 5th International Conference on
Knowledge Capture (K-Cap 2009)
Redondo Beach, California, USA, 1-4 September 2009
http://kcap09.stanford.edu/
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Capturing knowledge by using markup techniques and by supporting semantic
annotations is a major technique for creating metadata. It is beneficial
in a wide range of content-oriented intelligent applications.
One important application for instance is the Semantic Web. The research
about the WWW currently strives to augment syntactic information
already present in the Web by semantic metadata in order to achieve a
Semantic Web that human and software agents can understand. Here, one
of the most urgent challenges now is a knowledge-capturing problem,
i.e., how one may turn existing syntactic resources into knowledge
structures. A solution is to markup web documents in order to create
metadata on the web or to author new documents in a way that they
contain markup directly.

Another application is the indexing and searching of multimedia (and
multilingual) data. It is difficult to completely process the content of
multimedia data, even with technologies based on natural language
processing, image processing, machine vision and speech recognition.
Therefore, semantic annotation is one of the promising methodologies
to define semantic structures on the content.

WORKSHOP GOALS

This workshop aims at bringing together members of different overlapping
communities that share the interest on semantic authoring and annotation
for developing methods and tools:
* Semantic Web researchers who use semantic authoring and annotation
to enrich the web with distributed relational meta-data in order to
enable a machine-readable web.
* Members of the human language technology community, developing
information extraction systems for the generation of meta-data
* People from the multimedia content domain, indexing and searching
of multimedia (and multilingual) data.
* Researchers who address innovative topics and applications by semantic
annotation (semantic annotation of databases, annotation of
web/grid services, semantic hypertext, etc.)
This will give an opportunity to push further the discussion upon the
potential of semantic annotation across these communities.

TOPICS OF INTEREST

Potential topics include but are not limited to:
* semantic authoring and publishing
* document engineering
* deriving semantics from document structure and content
* ontology-based authoring and markup
* knowledge markup in the Semantic Web
* standards for supporting knowledge markup, e.g., RDFa, microformats, GRDDL
* using semantic annotations to define knowledge
* integrated software architecture based on semantic annotation
* multimedia annotation (e.g., by using MPEG-7)
* annotation of software components
* linguistic aspects of semantic annotation
* capturing knowledge through Information Extraction and NLP
* text mining for creating knowledge markup
* mining semantic information from blogs, forums or news sources.
* collaborative, shared tagging and annotation
* evaluation of annotation frameworks
* semantic annotation in Semantic Wikis
* semantic annotation of multilingual web sources
* deriving formal semantics from (flat or hierarchical) tagging systems
* vocabularies and ontologies for semantic authoring and annotation
* tools for supporting knowledge markup, semantic annotation,
 semantic authoring, ...

IMPORTANT DATES

Submission deadline: June 15, 2009
Notification of acceptance: July 15, 2009
Camera-ready paper submission: July 27, 2009
Workshop date: September 1, 2009

ORGANIZING COMMITTEE

* Siegfried Handschuh, DERI Galway, Ireland
* Michael Sintek, DFKI, Kaiserslautern, Germany
* Nigel Collier, NII, Japan
* Anita de Waard, University of Utrecht, Netherlands

SUBMISSION GUIDELINES

We invite submissions of full technical papers and short position papers.
Authors of accepted technical and position papers will be invited to
present their papers in the workshop

Format requirements for submissions of technical papers are:
* Full papers - should not exceed 8 pages in length (including references)
* Position papers - are expected up to 3 pages.

Papers must be submitted as PDF and strictly adhere to ACM proceedings 
format
(http://www.acm.org/sigs/publications/proceedings-templates).
For submissions, the authors are expected to use the following link:
http://www.easychair.org/conferences/?conf=saakm09

K-CAP 2009 Workshop on Semantic Authoring, Annotation and Knowledge Markup (SAAKM 2009)

[Apologies for cross posting]

----------------------------------------------------------------------
CALL FOR PAPERS
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Semantic Authoring, Annotation and Knowledge Markup (SAAKM 2009)
http://saakm2009.semanticauthoring.org/
1 September 2009

co-located with the 5th International Conference on
Knowledge Capture (K-Cap 2009)
Redondo Beach, California, USA, 1-4 September 2009
http://kcap09.stanford.edu/
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Capturing knowledge by using markup techniques and by supporting semantic
annotations is a major technique for creating metadata. It is beneficial
in a wide range of content-oriented intelligent applications.
One important application for instance is the Semantic Web. The research
about the WWW currently strives to augment syntactic information
already present in the Web by semantic metadata in order to achieve a
Semantic Web that human and software agents can understand. Here, one
of the most urgent challenges now is a knowledge-capturing problem,
i.e., how one may turn existing syntactic resources into knowledge
structures. A solution is to markup web documents in order to create
metadata on the web or to author new documents in a way that they
contain markup directly.

Another application is the indexing and searching of multimedia (and
multilingual) data. It is difficult to completely process the content of
multimedia data, even with technologies based on natural language
processing, image processing, machine vision and speech recognition.
Therefore, semantic annotation is one of the promising methodologies
to define semantic structures on the content.

WORKSHOP GOALS

This workshop aims at bringing together members of different overlapping
communities that share the interest on semantic authoring and annotation
for developing methods and tools:
* Semantic Web researchers who use semantic authoring and annotation
to enrich the web with distributed relational meta-data in order to
enable a machine-readable web.
* Members of the human language technology community, developing
information extraction systems for the generation of meta-data
* People from the multimedia content domain, indexing and searching
of multimedia (and multilingual) data.
* Researchers who address innovative topics and applications by semantic
annotation (semantic annotation of databases, annotation of
web/grid services, semantic hypertext, etc.)
This will give an opportunity to push further the discussion upon the
potential of semantic annotation across these communities.

TOPICS OF INTEREST

Potential topics include but are not limited to:
* semantic authoring and publishing
* document engineering
* deriving semantics from document structure and content
* ontology-based authoring and markup
* knowledge markup in the Semantic Web
* standards for supporting knowledge markup, e.g., RDFa, microformats, GRDDL
* using semantic annotations to define knowledge
* integrated software architecture based on semantic annotation
* multimedia annotation (e.g., by using MPEG-7)
* annotation of software components
* linguistic aspects of semantic annotation
* capturing knowledge through Information Extraction and NLP
* text mining for creating knowledge markup
* mining semantic information from blogs, forums or news sources.
* collaborative, shared tagging and annotation
* evaluation of annotation frameworks
* semantic annotation in Semantic Wikis
* semantic annotation of multilingual web sources
* deriving formal semantics from (flat or hierarchical) tagging systems
* vocabularies and ontologies for semantic authoring and annotation
* tools for supporting knowledge markup, semantic annotation,
semantic authoring, ...

IMPORTANT DATES

Submission deadline: June 15, 2009
Notification of acceptance: July 15, 2009
Camera-ready paper submission: July 27, 2009
Workshop date: September 1, 2009

ORGANIZING COMMITTEE

* Siegfried Handschuh, DERI Galway, Ireland
* Michael Sintek, DFKI, Kaiserslautern, Germany
* Nigel Collier, NII, Japan
* Anita de Waard, University of Utrecht, Netherlands

SUBMISSION GUIDELINES

We invite submissions of full technical papers and short position papers.
Authors of accepted technical and position papers will be invited to
present their papers in the workshop

Format requirements for submissions of technical papers are:
* Full papers - should not exceed 8 pages in length (including references)
* Position papers - are expected up to 3 pages.

Papers must be submitted as PDF and strictly adhere to ACM proceedings
format
(http://www.acm.org/sigs/publications/proceedings-templates).
For submissions, the authors are expected to use the following link:
http://www.easychair.org/conferences/?conf=saakm09

Annotea futures? Annotation standards in 2009...

(I'm cc:'ing 3 lists, rather warily; if the thread gets long, please 
consider trimming it to just use semantic-web <at> w3.org)

Hi all

I'm involved in helping advise a new not-for-profit project that is 
close in approach to the old Annotea project, looking at annotations 
within pieces of Web content, and their cross-linking, threading for 
discussion etc. It's now 2009, over ten years since the original Annotea 
designs. The Web has changed a lot since then, but the need to annotate 
it doesn't seem to have gone away.

See http://annotea.org/ 
http://www.w3.org/2001/Annotea/User/Tutorial/quicktutorial and nearby 
for an overview of Annotea.

Since then Web 2.0 has happened, and now many of the original themes of 
Annotea are part of the mainstream Web developer perspective. And yet 
... looking at the comments to this 2007 techcrunch survey - 
http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/10/5-ways-to-mark-up-the-web/ - I see 
project after project, startup after startup, exploring this space 
without any great emphasis on data exchange standards. I guess many of 
them have APIs, probably a lot of them use RSS or Atom feeds. But we 
certainly haven't yet to the place imagined by Annotea: an annotation 
layer for the Web that allows comments, scribbles, reviews, discussions 
to be freely interlinked and overlaid using open standard formats and 
protocols.

So I'm mailing the relevant (and pretty quiet) lists but cc:'ing 
semantic-web <at> w3.org too to ask where folk thing this stuff is heading.

When is an annotation an annotation, versus a page that happens to be a 
review, or happens to have as it's primary topic another page? For 
annotations at the page level, it might be that mainstream RDF work 
(linked data etc) has fulfilled some of the early promise of Annotea.

But for the "annotating parts of a page" scenario that lies at the heart 
of many people's notion of annotations, there doesn't seem to be much 
happening in terms of practical and widely adopted standards. Lots of 
startups, experiments etc but they all seem to be islands. And since 
annotation systems are only really interesting when you have enough 
annotations to get decent coverage, this seems a pity.

Thoughts? Am I missing some developments? What would Annotea look like 
if rebuilt for the Web of 2009? If it's in RDF, the query part would 
just use SPARQL, and topic classification would be SKOS. What else? Is 
there implementation experience from Annotea adopters and implementors 
gathered somewhere? Is there consensus for example on the best bits of 
information to keep if you want a robust reference to a piece of a 
potentially evolving page? How well do modern Web design habits (CSS, 
Ajax etc) interact with the overlay of 3rd party annotations? Is 
everyone using Firefox addons, javascript bookmarklets and Web proxies 
or is there some hope for a cross-browser approach on the horizon?

thanks for any suggestions, thoughts, links etc.

cheers,

Dan

[Fwd: Re: Annotea futures? Annotation standards in 2009...]

( Resent after re-subscribing to this list with danbri <at> danbri.org, my 
original msg which bounced was cc: semantic-web <at> w3.org and 
public-annotea-dev <at> w3.org , 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/semantic-web/2009May/0303.html )

-------- Original Message --------

(I'm cc:'ing 3 lists, rather warily; if the thread gets long, please
consider trimming it to just use semantic-web <at> w3.org)

Hi all

I'm involved in helping advise a new not-for-profit project that is
close in approach to the old Annotea project, looking at annotations
within pieces of Web content, and their cross-linking, threading for
discussion etc. It's now 2009, over ten years since the original Annotea
designs. The Web has changed a lot since then, but the need to annotate
it doesn't seem to have gone away.

See http://annotea.org/
http://www.w3.org/2001/Annotea/User/Tutorial/quicktutorial and nearby
for an overview of Annotea.

Since then Web 2.0 has happened, and now many of the original themes of
Annotea are part of the mainstream Web developer perspective. And yet
... looking at the comments to this 2007 techcrunch survey -
http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/10/5-ways-to-mark-up-the-web/ - I see
project after project, startup after startup, exploring this space
without any great emphasis on data exchange standards. I guess many of
them have APIs, probably a lot of them use RSS or Atom feeds. But we
certainly haven't yet to the place imagined by Annotea: an annotation
layer for the Web that allows comments, scribbles, reviews, discussions
to be freely interlinked and overlaid using open standard formats and
protocols.

So I'm mailing the relevant (and pretty quiet) lists but cc:'ing
semantic-web <at> w3.org too to ask where folk thing this stuff is heading.

When is an annotation an annotation, versus a page that happens to be a
review, or happens to have as it's primary topic another page? For
annotations at the page level, it might be that mainstream RDF work
(linked data etc) has fulfilled some of the early promise of Annotea.

But for the "annotating parts of a page" scenario that lies at the heart
of many people's notion of annotations, there doesn't seem to be much
happening in terms of practical and widely adopted standards. Lots of
startups, experiments etc but they all seem to be islands. And since
annotation systems are only really interesting when you have enough
annotations to get decent coverage, this seems a pity.

Thoughts? Am I missing some developments? What would Annotea look like
if rebuilt for the Web of 2009? If it's in RDF, the query part would
just use SPARQL, and topic classification would be SKOS. What else? Is
there implementation experience from Annotea adopters and implementors
gathered somewhere? Is there consensus for example on the best bits of
information to keep if you want a robust reference to a piece of a
potentially evolving page? How well do modern Web design habits (CSS,
Ajax etc) interact with the overlay of 3rd party annotations? Is
everyone using Firefox addons, javascript bookmarklets and Web proxies
or is there some hope for a cross-browser approach on the horizon?

thanks for any suggestions, thoughts, links etc.

cheers,

Dan

Re: Annotea futures? Annotation standards in 2009...

Hi Dan,

You might want to look at our <http://code.google.com/p/caboto/> project 
which was a small spin-out effort from 3 projects each with a social 
software annotations aspect.

We looked at use cases from different contexts and but this has not really 
been about annotating parts of a page but more about annotating resources 
(with a dedicated 'page') such as "an event", or making a time-based video 
annotation.

Nikki

--On 22 May 2009 16:00 +0200 Dan Brickley <danbri <at> danbri.org> wrote:

> (I'm cc:'ing 3 lists, rather warily; if the thread gets long, please
> consider trimming it to just use semantic-web <at> w3.org)
>
> Hi all
>
> I'm involved in helping advise a new not-for-profit project that is close
> in approach to the old Annotea project, looking at annotations within
> pieces of Web content, and their cross-linking, threading for discussion
> etc. It's now 2009, over ten years since the original Annotea designs.
> The Web has changed a lot since then, but the need to annotate it doesn't
> seem to have gone away.
>
> See http://annotea.org/
> http://www.w3.org/2001/Annotea/User/Tutorial/quicktutorial and nearby for
> an overview of Annotea.
>
> Since then Web 2.0 has happened, and now many of the original themes of
> Annotea are part of the mainstream Web developer perspective. And yet ...
> looking at the comments to this 2007 techcrunch survey -
> http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/10/5-ways-to-mark-up-the-web/ - I see
> project after project, startup after startup, exploring this space
> without any great emphasis on data exchange standards. I guess many of
> them have APIs, probably a lot of them use RSS or Atom feeds. But we
> certainly haven't yet to the place imagined by Annotea: an annotation
> layer for the Web that allows comments, scribbles, reviews, discussions
> to be freely interlinked and overlaid using open standard formats and
> protocols.
>
> So I'm mailing the relevant (and pretty quiet) lists but cc:'ing
> semantic-web <at> w3.org too to ask where folk thing this stuff is heading.
>
> When is an annotation an annotation, versus a page that happens to be a
> review, or happens to have as it's primary topic another page? For
> annotations at the page level, it might be that mainstream RDF work
> (linked data etc) has fulfilled some of the early promise of Annotea.
>
> But for the "annotating parts of a page" scenario that lies at the heart
> of many people's notion of annotations, there doesn't seem to be much
> happening in terms of practical and widely adopted standards. Lots of
> startups, experiments etc but they all seem to be islands. And since
> annotation systems are only really interesting when you have enough
> annotations to get decent coverage, this seems a pity.
>
> Thoughts? Am I missing some developments? What would Annotea look like if
> rebuilt for the Web of 2009? If it's in RDF, the query part would just
> use SPARQL, and topic classification would be SKOS. What else? Is there
> implementation experience from Annotea adopters and implementors gathered
> somewhere? Is there consensus for example on the best bits of information
> to keep if you want a robust reference to a piece of a potentially
> evolving page? How well do modern Web design habits (CSS, Ajax etc)
> interact with the overlay of 3rd party annotations? Is everyone using
> Firefox addons, javascript bookmarklets and Web proxies or is there some
> hope for a cross-browser approach on the horizon?
>
> thanks for any suggestions, thoughts, links etc.
>
> cheers,
>
> Dan
>
>
>
>

----------------------
NJ Rogers, Technical Researcher
(Senior Technical Developer and Coordinator of Web Futures)
Institute for Learning and Research Technology (ILRT)
Email:nikki.rogers <at> bristol.ac.uk
Tel: +44(0)117 3314412 (Direct)
Tel: +44(0)117 3314430 (Office)

Re: Annotea futures? Annotation standards in 2009...

That's something I ought to look at too, Nikki.

Then there's POWDER which, unless something unexpected happens, will be 
at Proposed Rec very soon. That's all about annotating/describing groups 
of resources cf. adding annotations within specific resources but, since 
the output (once processed) is RDF, it's all interoperable.

Phil.

NJ Rogers, Learning and Research Technology wrote:
> Hi Dan,
> 
> You might want to look at our <http://code.google.com/p/caboto/> project 
> which was a small spin-out effort from 3 projects each with a social 
> software annotations aspect.
> 
> We looked at use cases from different contexts and but this has not 
> really been about annotating parts of a page but more about annotating 
> resources (with a dedicated 'page') such as "an event", or making a 
> time-based video annotation.
> 
> Nikki
> 
> --On 22 May 2009 16:00 +0200 Dan Brickley <danbri <at> danbri.org> wrote:
> 
>> (I'm cc:'ing 3 lists, rather warily; if the thread gets long, please
>> consider trimming it to just use semantic-web <at> w3.org)
>>
>> Hi all
>>
>> I'm involved in helping advise a new not-for-profit project that is close
>> in approach to the old Annotea project, looking at annotations within
>> pieces of Web content, and their cross-linking, threading for discussion
>> etc. It's now 2009, over ten years since the original Annotea designs.
>> The Web has changed a lot since then, but the need to annotate it doesn't
>> seem to have gone away.
>>
>> See http://annotea.org/
>> http://www.w3.org/2001/Annotea/User/Tutorial/quicktutorial and nearby for
>> an overview of Annotea.
>>
>> Since then Web 2.0 has happened, and now many of the original themes of
>> Annotea are part of the mainstream Web developer perspective. And yet ...
>> looking at the comments to this 2007 techcrunch survey -
>> http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/10/5-ways-to-mark-up-the-web/ - I see
>> project after project, startup after startup, exploring this space
>> without any great emphasis on data exchange standards. I guess many of
>> them have APIs, probably a lot of them use RSS or Atom feeds. But we
>> certainly haven't yet to the place imagined by Annotea: an annotation
>> layer for the Web that allows comments, scribbles, reviews, discussions
>> to be freely interlinked and overlaid using open standard formats and
>> protocols.
>>
>> So I'm mailing the relevant (and pretty quiet) lists but cc:'ing
>> semantic-web <at> w3.org too to ask where folk thing this stuff is heading.
>>
>> When is an annotation an annotation, versus a page that happens to be a
>> review, or happens to have as it's primary topic another page? For
>> annotations at the page level, it might be that mainstream RDF work
>> (linked data etc) has fulfilled some of the early promise of Annotea.
>>
>> But for the "annotating parts of a page" scenario that lies at the heart
>> of many people's notion of annotations, there doesn't seem to be much
>> happening in terms of practical and widely adopted standards. Lots of
>> startups, experiments etc but they all seem to be islands. And since
>> annotation systems are only really interesting when you have enough
>> annotations to get decent coverage, this seems a pity.
>>
>> Thoughts? Am I missing some developments? What would Annotea look like if
>> rebuilt for the Web of 2009? If it's in RDF, the query part would just
>> use SPARQL, and topic classification would be SKOS. What else? Is there
>> implementation experience from Annotea adopters and implementors gathered
>> somewhere? Is there consensus for example on the best bits of information
>> to keep if you want a robust reference to a piece of a potentially
>> evolving page? How well do modern Web design habits (CSS, Ajax etc)
>> interact with the overlay of 3rd party annotations? Is everyone using
>> Firefox addons, javascript bookmarklets and Web proxies or is there some
>> hope for a cross-browser approach on the horizon?
>>
>> thanks for any suggestions, thoughts, links etc.
>>
>> cheers,
>>
>> Dan
>>
>>
>>
>>
> 
> 
> 
> ----------------------
> NJ Rogers, Technical Researcher
> (Senior Technical Developer and Coordinator of Web Futures)
> Institute for Learning and Research Technology (ILRT)
> Email:nikki.rogers <at> bristol.ac.uk
> Tel: +44(0)117 3314412 (Direct)
> Tel: +44(0)117 3314430 (Office)
> 
> 

--

-- 

Phil Archer
http://philarcher.org/www <at> 20/

i-sieve technologies                |      W3C Mobile Web Initiative
Making Sense of the Buzz            |      www.w3.org/Mobile

Re: Annotea futures? Annotation standards in 2009...

Thanks Nikki, Phil. Good points!

This also reminds me that Media annotations is moving along nicely over 
in a separate W3C group. See http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/

Also I've just signed up for a fresh Annotea account, as I wanted to try 
Annozilla (http://annozilla.mozdev.org/). It seems all the w3.org signup 
machine is still working, which was a pleasant suprise. It sets a user 
up with username and password for posting annotations. So - thinking 
again about how something like this would be built with 2009-era specs, 
I suspect OAuth might be used here. This would allow clients to be 
delegated an access token for reading/posting etc annotations. At the 
moment Annotea assumes each user has an account and the password for 
that account is directly shared with the apps that can post to it. 
Perhaps there could be benefit in having the apps (whether desktop, 
in-browser or website-based) use oauth tokens instead? Or perhaps I'm 
just being trendy and trying to use too many shiny new things? I do 
think that AtomPub+Oauth is worth investigating, despite premature 
reports (http://norman.walsh.name/2009/05/07/timing) of it's death...

cheers,

Dan

Re: Annotea futures? Annotation standards in 2009...