PyOhio FTW

PyOhio was a mind expanding experience. Highly recommended.

Somehow I won the grand door prize, a full multi-OS, single user, Wing 
Pro license. I already have a full Wing Pro license. So at the next 
TriZPUG meeting, some lucky person is going to win this as a door prize. 
It's worth $245. I would save it for PyCarolinas, but the download code 
expires on Sept 15, so I gotta give it away sooner. Chris Fox is 
reserving us a room for our August meeting at NCSU now. So save the date 
Thur Aug 23 at 7pm for your chance to win.

PyOhio also shares their love by donating their large cache of name tags 
ribbons (the ones that say "speaker," "sponsor," "volunteer," etc.) to 
PyCarolinas. Calvin, I will hand them over to you the next time I see 
you. The tags were given to PyOhio by PyCon US, so the gift keeps on giving.

The PyOhio board met on Sunday and tapped PyCamp to provide a week of 
Python instruction leading up to PyOhio 2013. PyCamp will be July 22-26, 
2013 and PyOhio will be July 27-28, both at the shiney new Ohio State Union.

The sprints were excellent. Catherine Devlin concentrated the sprints on 
minting as many new Python cor devs as possible. Her help was fantastic 
and somehow I managed to submit a patch for filecmp.

The best part wasn't even surprising. The best part was, of course, the 
lightning talks. Chad Whitacre is not only a Python rockstar, he's got 
to be the funniest person to ever give a lightning talk (OK, maybe 
second to Ian Bicking's old ZDjangoGears talk). Anyway, you should 
support Chad's https://www.gittip.com/ .

I'd like to report to you on Chad's talk on Aspen, his super-duper WSGI 

Re: PyOhio FTW (and Salt)

<div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Thank you, Chris!&nbsp;&nbsp; A detailed, focused
      and very interesting report.&nbsp; I didn't attend, and I now feel that
      I could actually take away a lot of good stuff from this
      conference.<br><br>
      Very much appreciated!<br>
      ----mark<br><br>
      P.S.&nbsp; anyone doing serious work with Salt -- Python deployment
      technology?&nbsp;&nbsp; Would like to talk to you Wednesday... (Caktus
      sponsored project night)<br><br>
      On 07/31/2012 08:49 PM, Chris Calloway wrote:<br>
</div>
    <blockquote cite="mid:50187D0F.5080905@..." type="cite">PyOhio
      was a mind expanding experience. Highly recommended.
      <br>
      ............................<br>
</blockquote>
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      ========================== <br><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:biggers@...">biggers@...</a><br>919 360-4561 cell<br><br><br>
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  </div>

Project Night Wednesday August 8

Have a project you want to show off, share, seek help with, or just
get some work done surrounded my like minded python lovers? Join us
for our first monthly hack night and do just that! Don't have
something to work on? Show up and enjoy the energy, sprint on an open
source project, find something interesting to contribute to or be
inspired by!

The setting is informal and there is no schedule, so don't worry if
you show up past the start time.

ANNOUNCEMENT: At this meeting I will be looking for anyone who wants
to discuss plans for PyCarolinas and volunteer to help out. Please
come if you'd like to talk about the event and what you can do to make
it happen!

Berkeley Artificial Intelligence course taught using Python

FYI:

https://www.edx.org/courses/BerkeleyX/CS188.1x/2012_Fall/about

Chris

Re: Triangle Built?

If anyone is still interested in the idea, what do you think of the
badge I whipped up?

I've also registered  <at> triangleforged and triangleforged.org if running
with this name, which I like quite a bit.

On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Calvin Spealman
<ironfroggy@...> wrote:
> I think we need to have something a bit simpler, we need them to look
> nice on whatever site someone is building. Anything that could lead to
> a design clash will make them less likely to use. Also, I don't think
> "Tried & True Triangle" reflects the idea well, I'm sorry.
>
> I'm really liking "Triangle Forged" and I've got my ideas sketched up
> but need to put them up digitally, this evening.
>
> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 1:26 PM, David Burton <ncdave4life@...> wrote:
>> Very nice looking... but they don't convey the fact that the thing bearing
>> the label was created in the Research Triangle.  They're kind of like those
>> wonderfully entertaining ads that, at the end, leave you wondering what
>> product they were for.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Rob Lineberger <rob.lineberger@...>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I had a few cycles and put some ideas together.  Images here:
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/cpz5l9n
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> TriZPUG mailing list
>> TriZPUG@...
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/trizpug
>> http://trizpug.org is the Triangle Zope and Python Users Group
>
>
>
> --
> Read my blog! I depend on your acceptance of my opinion! I am interesting!
> http://techblog.ironfroggy.com/
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If anyone is still interested in the idea, what do you think of the
badge I whipped up?

I've also registered  <at> triangleforged and triangleforged.org if running
with this name, which I like quite a bit.

On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Calvin Spealman
<ironfroggy@...> wrote:
> I think we need to have something a bit simpler, we need them to look
> nice on whatever site someone is building. Anything that could lead to
> a design clash will make them less likely to use. Also, I don't think
> "Tried & True Triangle" reflects the idea well, I'm sorry.
>
> I'm really liking "Triangle Forged" and I've got my ideas sketched up
> but need to put them up digitally, this evening.
>
> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 1:26 PM, David Burton <ncdave4life@...> wrote:
>> Very nice looking... but they don't convey the fact that the thing bearing
>> the label was created in the Research Triangle.  They're kind of like those
>> wonderfully entertaining ads that, at the end, leave you wondering what
>> product they were for.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Rob Lineberger <rob.lineberger@...>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I had a few cycles and put some ideas together.  Images here:
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/cpz5l9n
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> TriZPUG mailing list
>> TriZPUG@...
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/trizpug
>> http://trizpug.org is the Triangle Zope and Python Users Group
>
>
>
> --
> Read my blog! I depend on your acceptance of my opinion! I am interesting!
> http://techblog.ironfroggy.com/
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--

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Re: Triangle Built?

I like the "triangle forged" name also. 

If this is intended to be a marketing tool, I'd expect a more polished and snappy logo.

That's my main message. I have some small ideas that I'd explore with a designer if I were running with it,
too, but they are discardable. Here they are, for what it is worth.

I expect something in the image to reflect the "triangle" aspect of the name.  One direction is a forged metal
triangle, of the sort used as a percussion instrument. Another is that the forge can clearly have the shape
of a triangle, on the top slab.

Hopefully that's helpful feedback. 

Gary

On Aug 7, 2012, at 12:40 AM, Calvin Spealman <ironfroggy@...> wrote:

> If anyone is still interested in the idea, what do you think of the
> badge I whipped up?
> 
> I've also registered  <at> triangleforged and triangleforged.org if running
> with this name, which I like quite a bit.
> 
> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Calvin Spealman
<ironfroggy@...> wrote:
>> I think we need to have something a bit simpler, we need them to look
>> nice on whatever site someone is building. Anything that could lead to
>> a design clash will make them less likely to use. Also, I don't think
>> "Tried & True Triangle" reflects the idea well, I'm sorry.
>> 
>> I'm really liking "Triangle Forged" and I've got my ideas sketched up
>> but need to put them up digitally, this evening.
>> 
>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 1:26 PM, David Burton
<ncdave4life@...> wrote:
>>> Very nice looking... but they don't convey the fact that the thing bearing
>>> the label was created in the Research Triangle.  They're kind of like those
>>> wonderfully entertaining ads that, at the end, leave you wondering what
>>> product they were for.
>>> 
>>> Dave
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Rob Lineberger <rob.lineberger@...>
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I had a few cycles and put some ideas together.  Images here:
>>>> 
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/cpz5l9n
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> TriZPUG mailing list
>>> TriZPUG@...
>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/trizpug
>>> http://trizpug.org is the Triangle Zope and Python Users Group
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Read my blog! I depend on your acceptance of my opinion! I am interesting!
>> http://techblog.ironfroggy.com/
>> Follow me if you're into that sort of thing: http://www.twitter.com/ironfroggy
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Read my blog! I depend on your acceptance of my opinion! I am interesting!
> http://techblog.ironfroggy.com/
> Follow me if you're into that sort of thing: http://www.twitter.com/ironfroggy
> <triangleforged.png>
> _______________________________________________
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> TriZPUG@...
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/trizpug
> http://trizpug.org is the Triangle Zope and Python Users Group

Re: Triangle Built?

On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 10:20 AM, Sean Cavanaugh <sean@...> wrote:
> expanding on the idea a bit... Im not a graphical designer but my brother is
> and has taught me some things.  Once you guys figure out what you want I can
> get him to touch it up and make it purty.

I like this version quite a bit. Certainly an improvement over my first go!

> -S
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 7:24 AM, Gary Poster <gary.poster@...> wrote:
>>
>> I like the "triangle forged" name also.
>>
>> If this is intended to be a marketing tool, I'd expect a more polished and
>> snappy logo.
>>
>> That's my main message. I have some small ideas that I'd explore with a
>> designer if I were running with it, too, but they are discardable. Here they
>> are, for what it is worth.
>>
>> I expect something in the image to reflect the "triangle" aspect of the
>> name.  One direction is a forged metal triangle, of the sort used as a
>> percussion instrument. Another is that the forge can clearly have the shape
>> of a triangle, on the top slab.
>>
>> Hopefully that's helpful feedback.
>>
>> Gary
>>
>>
>> On Aug 7, 2012, at 12:40 AM, Calvin Spealman <ironfroggy@...> wrote:
>>
>> > If anyone is still interested in the idea, what do you think of the
>> > badge I whipped up?
>> >
>> > I've also registered  <at> triangleforged and triangleforged.org if running
>> > with this name, which I like quite a bit.
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Calvin Spealman <ironfroggy@...>
>> > wrote:
>> >> I think we need to have something a bit simpler, we need them to look
>> >> nice on whatever site someone is building. Anything that could lead to
>> >> a design clash will make them less likely to use. Also, I don't think
>> >> "Tried & True Triangle" reflects the idea well, I'm sorry.
>> >>
>> >> I'm really liking "Triangle Forged" and I've got my ideas sketched up
>> >> but need to put them up digitally, this evening.
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 1:26 PM, David Burton <ncdave4life@...>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>> Very nice looking... but they don't convey the fact that the thing
>> >>> bearing
>> >>> the label was created in the Research Triangle.  They're kind of like
>> >>> those
>> >>> wonderfully entertaining ads that, at the end, leave you wondering
>> >>> what
>> >>> product they were for.
>> >>>
>> >>> Dave
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Rob Lineberger
>> >>> <rob.lineberger@...>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I had a few cycles and put some ideas together.  Images here:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> http://tinyurl.com/cpz5l9n
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> _______________________________________________
>> >>> TriZPUG mailing list
>> >>> TriZPUG@...
>> >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/trizpug
>> >>> http://trizpug.org is the Triangle Zope and Python Users Group
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Read my blog! I depend on your acceptance of my opinion! I am
>> >> interesting!
>> >> http://techblog.ironfroggy.com/
>> >> Follow me if you're into that sort of thing:
>> >> http://www.twitter.com/ironfroggy
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Read my blog! I depend on your acceptance of my opinion! I am
>> > interesting!
>> > http://techblog.ironfroggy.com/
>> > Follow me if you're into that sort of thing:
>> > http://www.twitter.com/ironfroggy
>> > <triangleforged.png>
>> > _______________________________________________
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>> http://trizpug.org is the Triangle Zope and Python Users Group
>
>

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Re: Triangle Built?

<div>
<span>Hi all, sorry this had to be my first posting to the list, but I figured I'd provoke some more direct inspiration.</span><div><br></div>
<div>I just wanted to chime in and say that this is my favorite of all the designs I've seen posted. Now for the inspiration...</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>First off, I would suggest sticking with the anvil rather than incorporating a musical triangle into the design. The Triangle is a location, and has little to do with the purpose of the Triangle Python community, which as I see it is indeed to "forge" things with computers. Also, how would you design a logo around a musical triangle that relates to a Python usergroup? The most resonating mental image I can associate with a musical triangle is dinner time on the farm.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Secondly, drop the Arial typeface. This is a proprietary typeface&nbsp;<a href="http://www.linotype.com/en/145867/Arial-family.html">owned by Monotype Imaging</a>, and it's a shabby knockoff of Helvetica (also&nbsp;<a href="http://www.linotype.com/526/Helvetica-family.html">owned by Monotype Imaging</a>). I would recommend finding a typeface that is both beautiful and open sourced.&nbsp;<a href="http://www.impallari.com/cabin">Cabin</a>&nbsp;could be a good humanist sans alternative.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Thirdly, I would recommend figuring out a way to make the&nbsp;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerning">kerning</a>&nbsp;look better.&nbsp;<a href="http://type.method.ac/">Here</a>&nbsp;is a game that teaches you how to do that. Additionally, it appears as though the word TRIANGLE is smaller than the word FORGED. Maybe eliminating the black border, and making the anvil smaller would help out with the kerning aspect.&nbsp;</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Finally, some cool (but slight) text effects could be used to give this logo a more polished feel. Maybe something that looks like it is&nbsp;<a href="http://psd.tutsplus.com/tutorials/text-effects-tutorials/steel-text-effect/">made from hot metal</a>?&nbsp;</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>I also think that the background color is too dark in comparison to the black text, and would recommend using a different color such as&nbsp;<a href="http://www.colorhexa.com/ff4500">#ff4500</a>. That is all bound to change once hot metal text effects are added, so for now I would worry about color last once the other stuff is taken into consideration.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div><br></div>
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<div>On Aug 7, 2012, at 12:40 AM, Calvin Spealman wrote:</div>
<br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>If anyone is still interested in the idea, what do you think of the<br>badge I whipped up?<br><br>I've also registered  <at> triangleforged and <a href="http://triangleforged.org">triangleforged.org</a> if running<br>with this name, which I like quite a bit.<br><br>On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Calvin Spealman &lt;<a href="mailto:ironfroggy@...">ironfroggy@...</a>&gt; wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite">I think we need to have something a bit simpler, we need them to look<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">nice on whatever site someone is building. Anything that could lead to<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">a design clash will make them less likely to use. Also, I don't think<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">"Tried &amp; True Triangle" reflects the idea well, I'm sorry.<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">I'm really liking "Triangle Forged" and I've got my ideas sketched up<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">but need to put them up digitally, this evening.<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 1:26 PM, David Burton &lt;<a href="mailto:ncdave4life@...">ncdave4life@...</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Very nice looking... but they don't convey the fact that the thing bearing<br>
</blockquote></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">the label was created in the Research Triangle. &nbsp;They're kind of like those<br>
</blockquote></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">wonderfully entertaining ads that, at the end, leave you wondering what<br>
</blockquote></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">product they were for.<br>
</blockquote></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Dave<br>
</blockquote></blockquote>
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<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Rob Lineberger &lt;<a href="mailto:rob.lineberger@...">rob.lineberger@...</a>&gt;<br>
</blockquote></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">wrote:<br>
</blockquote></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">I had a few cycles and put some ideas together. &nbsp;Images here:<br>
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<a href="http://tinyurl.com/cpz5l9n">http://tinyurl.com/cpz5l9n</a><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">TriZPUG mailing list<br>
</blockquote></blockquote>
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<a href="mailto:TriZPUG@...">TriZPUG@...</a><br>
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<a href="http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/trizpug">http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/trizpug</a><br>
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Re: Triangle Built?

<div>
<p>Hey Jesse, did you see my update to his design? &nbsp;I don't think the triangle looks bad. &nbsp;I also did not use arial so I am assuming not, I used two open source font from dafont. &nbsp;I also know this is a python user group but I assume most of us use plenty of languages... I could add a python coming up out of the triangle but usually you don't want complicated bits in a logo. &nbsp;I can see what I can whip up later. &nbsp;I provided the .psd file along w/ my last email. &nbsp;I think the easiest way to make suggestions is to try to edit the logo even if you can't get the full affect.</p>
<div>
<br>
</div>
<div>-S<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Jesse Bikman <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:jessebikman <at> gmail.com" target="_blank">jessebikman@...</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote">
<div>
<span>Hi all, sorry this had to be my first posting to the list, but I figured I'd provoke some more direct inspiration.</span><div>
<br>
</div>
<div>
I just wanted to chime in and say that this is my favorite of all the designs I've seen posted. Now for the inspiration...</div>
<div>
<br>
</div>
<div>
First off, I would suggest sticking with the anvil rather than incorporating a musical triangle into the design. The Triangle is a location, and has little to do with the purpose of the Triangle Python community, which as I see it is indeed to "forge" things with computers. Also, how would you design a logo around a musical triangle that relates to a Python usergroup? The most resonating mental image I can associate with a musical triangle is dinner time on the farm.</div>
<div>
<br>
</div>
<div>
Secondly, drop the Arial typeface. This is a proprietary typeface&nbsp;<a href="http://www.linotype.com/en/145867/Arial-family.html" target="_blank">owned by Monotype Imaging</a>, and it's a shabby knockoff of Helvetica (also&nbsp;<a href="http://www.linotype.com/526/Helvetica-family.html" target="_blank">owned by Monotype Imaging</a>). I would recommend finding a typeface that is both beautiful and open sourced.&nbsp;<a href="http://www.impallari.com/cabin" target="_blank">Cabin</a>&nbsp;could be a good humanist sans alternative.</div>
<div>
<br>
</div>
<div>
Thirdly, I would recommend figuring out a way to make the&nbsp;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerning" target="_blank">kerning</a>&nbsp;look better.&nbsp;<a href="http://type.method.ac/" target="_blank">Here</a>&nbsp;is a game that teaches you how to do that. Additionally, it appears as though the word TRIANGLE is smaller than the word FORGED. Maybe eliminating the black border, and making the anvil smaller would help out with the kerning aspect.&nbsp;</div>
<div>
<br>
</div>
<div>
Finally, some cool (but slight) text effects could be used to give this logo a more polished feel. Maybe something that looks like it is&nbsp;<a href="http://psd.tutsplus.com/tutorials/text-effects-tutorials/steel-text-effect/" target="_blank">made from hot metal</a>?&nbsp;</div>
<div>
<br>
</div>
<div>
I also think that the background color is too dark in comparison to the black text, and would recommend using a different color such as&nbsp;<a href="http://www.colorhexa.com/ff4500" target="_blank">#ff4500</a>. That is all bound to change once hot metal text effects are added, so for now I would worry about color last once the other stuff is taken into consideration.</div>
<div>
<br>
</div>
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Re: Triangle Built?

I like this even better than my own.  I was going to send it out but 
after seeing this have decided otherwise.

I do like the idea and I'd like to vote for the anvil instead of a 
musical triangle.

On 8/7/12 12:40 AM, Calvin Spealman wrote:
> If anyone is still interested in the idea, what do you think of the
> badge I whipped up?
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> I've also registered  <at> triangleforged and triangleforged.org if running
> with this name, which I like quite a bit.
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> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Calvin Spealman
<ironfroggy@...> wrote:
>> I think we need to have something a bit simpler, we need them to look
>> nice on whatever site someone is building. Anything that could lead to
>> a design clash will make them less likely to use. Also, I don't think
>> "Tried & True Triangle" reflects the idea well, I'm sorry.
>>
>> I'm really liking "Triangle Forged" and I've got my ideas sketched up
>> but need to put them up digitally, this evening.
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>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 1:26 PM, David Burton
<ncdave4life@...> wrote:
>>> Very nice looking... but they don't convey the fact that the thing bearing
>>> the label was created in the Research Triangle.  They're kind of like those
>>> wonderfully entertaining ads that, at the end, leave you wondering what
>>> product they were for.
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>>> Dave
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>>> On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Rob Lineberger <rob.lineberger@...>
>>> wrote:
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>>>> I had a few cycles and put some ideas together.  Images here:
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>>>> http://tinyurl.com/cpz5l9n
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>> Read my blog! I depend on your acceptance of my opinion! I am interesting!
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>> Follow me if you're into that sort of thing: http://www.twitter.com/ironfroggy
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