Paul Godley | 1 May 2009 18:39
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Plone sales pitch?

All,

I know I'm a little off topic here, but I figure you Python folks know
a lot of Plone too.

I'm going to deliver an internal sales pitch at work, promoting Plone
for a company intranet. It'd be used for general company information
(newsletter type stuff), employee collaboration/discussion while
working through ideas (rather than endless email threads), SOP
document storage, and whatever else it seems good for.

So I'm looking for good talking points for a Plone sales pitch. Have
any of you pitched Plone? What sales techniques worked well? What fell
flat?

I've subscribed to this list for a while, so I'm starting here. I'm
not on a Plone list. Feel free to recommend a good one if this is too
off topic for this list.

Thanks!

-P
Clark, Tom | 1 May 2009 19:11

Re: Plone sales pitch?

Hi Paul,

I'm definitely here on the Plone/CMS side of things, though I'm learning as much Python as I can.

I've pitched Plone twice: 1 success, 1 yet to be determined.  Though they were two considerably different
situations and I have considerably different roles in each case.  I have some slides from each episode and
would be happy to share them with you--though I think it would best be done in the context of some conversation.

Give me a call if you want.

Tom Clark, MLS
Librarian, Wiggins Divinity Library
Shaw University
919-274-7463
tomclark@...

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Subject: [TriZPUG] Plone sales pitch?

All,

I know I'm a little off topic here, but I figure you Python folks know
a lot of Plone too.

I'm going to deliver an internal sales pitch at work, promoting Plone
for a company intranet. It'd be used for general company information
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Stephan Altmueller | 1 May 2009 19:45
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Re: Plone sales pitch?

Hi Paul,

We use Plone for websites as well as our Intranet and it's been very
successful
as an intranet.
I don't think there is a magic angle to take, but go for the straight
simplicity that Plone is very user friendly and
quite powerful. I would set up an instance on a laptop, get familiar
with it and demo it in the
meeting. 
But then I am an engineer and not a sale man and there might be better
ways to communicate that to
management ;-)

For the actual implementation of intranet there are a couple caveats:
You want to make sure that all your needs are more or less covered by
standard products/plugins or be ready to probably hire someone to build
you custom functionality
(which brings up the cost).
Depending on the activity you are expecting
you might also need to allocate enough processing power and memory, because
Plone is significantly more resource intensive when it serves (many)
logged in users
versus anonymous user.

Hope this helps.

 -- Stephan

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Chris Calloway | 1 May 2009 20:12
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Re: Plone sales pitch?

On 5/1/2009 12:39 PM, Paul Godley wrote:
> All,
> 
> I know I'm a little off topic here, but I figure you Python folks know
> a lot of Plone too.
> 
> I'm going to deliver an internal sales pitch at work, promoting Plone
> for a company intranet. It'd be used for general company information
> (newsletter type stuff), employee collaboration/discussion while
> working through ideas (rather than endless email threads), SOP
> document storage, and whatever else it seems good for.
> 
> So I'm looking for good talking points for a Plone sales pitch. Have
> any of you pitched Plone? What sales techniques worked well? What fell
> flat?
> 
> I've subscribed to this list for a while, so I'm starting here. I'm
> not on a Plone list. Feel free to recommend a good one if this is too
> off topic for this list.

You are not too off topic. But you may want to join the Plone Evangelism 
list and ask this question there also, because that list is all about 
pitching Plone and the folks on that list have lots of Plone pitching 
resources:

http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism

Most of the Plone Community just participated in World Plone Day this 
past April 22, which is a day for pitching Plone. TriZPUG had a WPD 
event last fall but didn't have anyone who wanted to drive one this 
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Paul Godley | 3 May 2009 20:54
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Re: Plone sales pitch?

Thanks for all the good info and ideas. I just subscribed to Plone
Evangelism and will ask the question there too.

I do Python and Zope programming, took Joel Burton's Plone Bootcamp
last summer, have dipped my toe into Plone dev, and have an internal
Plone server running with logins set up for some coworkers.

I plan to use Plone's "view as slideshow" option to do a short
presentation. My main point will be that the content is searchable.
Next, that Plone is easy for everyone to contribute to, thereby
allowing the contribution and maintenance effort to be shared around
the office. People in charge of the info can now be in charge of
publishing it. Cool stuff.

After that point, I'm not sure where I want to go. I'm thinking "can
do a lot out of the box", "can display data from other databases we
have", then "we can create custom content types if needed". It'll be a
short presentation, so that will probably cover it.

Please don't hesitate to offer other suggestions. And thanks again!

-P

On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Chris Calloway <cbc@...> wrote:
> On 5/1/2009 12:39 PM, Paul Godley wrote:
>>
>> All,
>>
>> I know I'm a little off topic here, but I figure you Python folks know
>> a lot of Plone too.
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Chris Calloway | 5 May 2009 20:49
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More Fun/Crazy Pattern Mining with Python and MapReduce

http://developer.amazonwebservices.com/connect/entry.jspa?externalID=2294

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Sincerely,

Chris Calloway
http://www.secoora.org
office: 332 Chapman Hall   phone: (919) 599-3530
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599

Tom Roche | 6 May 2009 21:20
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Re: Python classes?


This thread has probably aged out, and the following is probably not
what the original poster was looking for anyway, but I thought it
might be useful to someone:

http://www.unc.edu/sis/clsched/fall/COMP.html (edited)
> COMP  116  INTRO SCIENTIFIC PROG  LEC  3.0  
>   91712  001  MWF  09:30AM-10:45AM  BISHOP,  G  FB  F009  OPEN  
>   SECTION: PYTHON  SEATS AVAILABLE: 54  

For the pre-Python syllabus, see
http://www.cs.unc.edu/Admin/Courses/descriptions/016.html

For more about the instructor, see
http://wwwx.cs.unc.edu/~gb/wp/

HTH, Tom Roche <Tom_Roche@...>
Chris Calloway | 12 May 2009 02:53
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Free Plone Site for Deserving 501c3 Non-profit

Do you represent a 501c3 Non-profit or know of one in need of a content 
managed website? Then check out this opportunity for a free Plone site. 
The deadline to apply is Friday:

As a part of the Plone Immersive Training Experience, 
http://immersive-training.net/, Six Feet Up (http://www.sixfeetup.com) 
invites non-profits to apply for a free enterprise-quality website.

On September 10th, 11th and 12th, 2009, the Plone Immersive Training 
Experience will take web application developers through the hands-on and 
guided exercise of creating and launching a real content-managed website 
for a non-profit organization to be selected from a pool of applicants.

"We encourage non-profit organizations that are in need of a brand new 
website to take advantage of this unique opportunity to get an 
enterprise-level website virtually for free", says Gabrielle 
Hendryx-Parker, Six Feet Up's CEO.

Non-profits may apply online before May 15th, 2009, by providing contact 
details and a short explanation on why they need a new website. Voting 
by the online community will then start and continue until June 5th. A 
winner will be announced on June 15th, 2009.

The chosen non-profit will just be asked to provide a final design, 
domain name, and copy for the site content. They will work with Six Feet 
Up to develop their requirements for a website. In return, the 
non-profit will work with top content management professionals to bring 
the site to life during the Plone Immersive Training Experience in 
September.

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Chris Calloway | 12 May 2009 02:28
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Re: Python classes?

On 5/6/2009 3:20 PM, Tom Roche wrote:
>> COMP  116  INTRO SCIENTIFIC PROG  LEC  3.0  
>>   91712  001  MWF  09:30AM-10:45AM  BISHOP,  G  FB  F009  OPEN  
>>   SECTION: PYTHON  SEATS AVAILABLE: 54  

Thanks, Tom. I think it's a good idea to post all local Python training 
opportunities here, no matter when they are.

Maybe you can get Dr. Bishop interested in TriZPUG. I emailed him more 
than once including before we started up PyCamp. We were looking for 
instructors and he seemed to have several Python projects listed among 
his interests. But I never got a reply. I'd love to have him speak to 
the group, especially if he's a part of the dump Matlab/adopt Python 
movement in scientific computing.

As regards PyCamp, it will take place next at the University of Toronto, 
sponsored by the Department of Physics, July 13-17. The curriculum has 
been completely revised for 2009 based on feedback:

http://trizpug.org/boot-camp/pycamp-toronto-2009/

In other news, The Definitive Guide to Plone has come out in an entirely 
newly updated Second Edition. It looks like it might be what we've been 
looking for as far as updated Plone books go:

http://apress.com/book/view/1430218932

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Sincerely,

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Chris Calloway | 18 May 2009 21:07
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[Fwd: 18 Contenders: Vote Now!]

The finalists for Six Feet Up's free Plone site contest are in. See 
below. Samaritan Health Center in Durham is one of the finalists. I 
encourage you to vote for them at the link below. Samaritan Health 
Center provides volunteer medical and dental care to the homeless 
clients of the Durham Rescue Mission and Good Samaritan Inn.

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Sincerely,

Chris Calloway
http://www.secoora.org
office: 332 Chapman Hall   phone: (919) 599-3530
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599

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Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 08:59:20 -0400
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Greetings!

We are pleased to announce that we have had 18 wonderful non-profit
organizations apply. As part of an innovative training format, the
Plone Immersive Training Experience attendees will work on developing
an enterprise quality content management system for one of these
contenders.

The voting is now open and we encourage you to go to 
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