Chris Calloway | 1 Nov 19:57 2005
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for all you medical related zopers

http://www.medicinebrain.com/

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Mike Revoir | 3 Nov 18:46 2005
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Camp Five Reading


On 9/28/05, Chris Calloway <cbc-gpQNmkgQrW4@public.gmane.org> wrote:
Camp Five participants will have pre-camp homework consisting of at
least a) reading a Zope 3 book (either Stephan Richter's or Philipp von
Weitershausen's), b) completing the online Five Tutorial, c) completing
a Five or Zope3 based product that meets certain criteria including unit
tests, and d) completing a high level design for an assigned sprint
project to be implemented at the sprint.

Does anyone have a recommendation for one of the books over the other?

Mike
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<span class="gmail_quote">On 9/28/05, Chris Calloway &lt;<a href="mailto:cbc@...">cbc@...</a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote">
Camp Five participants will have pre-camp homework consisting of at<br>least a) reading a Zope 3 book (either Stephan Richter's or Philipp von<br>Weitershausen's), b) completing the online Five Tutorial, c) completing<br>
a Five or Zope3 based product that meets certain criteria including unit<br>tests, and d) completing a high level design for an assigned sprint<br>project to be implemented at the sprint.<br>
</blockquote>
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Does anyone have a recommendation for one of the books over the other?<br><br>
Mike<br>
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Chris Calloway | 3 Nov 19:45 2005
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Re: Camp Five Reading

Mike Revoir wrote:
> On 9/28/05, Chris Calloway <cbc@...
<mailto:cbc@...>> wrote:
> 
>     Camp Five participants will have pre-camp homework consisting of at
>     least a) reading a Zope 3 book (either Stephan Richter's or Philipp von
>     Weitershausen's), b) completing the online Five Tutorial, c) completing
>     a Five or Zope3 based product that meets certain criteria including unit
>     tests, and d) completing a high level design for an assigned sprint
>     project to be implemented at the sprint.
> 
> Does anyone have a recommendation for one of the books over the other?

Stephan's is kinda cook-booky but simpler.

Philipp's is pretty amazing IF a) you can afford it ($59), b) you can 
get it (imported; takes at least a couple of weeks from Amazon), c) you 
have the time for something that intensely technical. The great things 
about Philipp's is that it is insanely well supported at the ironically 
named:

http://www.worldcookery.com/

Worldcookery is kind of the Plone answer to Ruby on Rails, if you ask 
me. Not as dumbed down. But way more comprehensive.

You could do well to start at the "Appetizers" page of that site:

http://www.worldcookery.com/Appetizers

Philipps fine PloneCon tutorial is also now online:

http://plone.org/newsitems/five-tutorial-online

Philipp did give one caveat at PloneCon about his book. There have been 
*rapidly* changing approaches to improving the Python/Zope/CMF/Plone 
stack prompted by Project GoldEgg. Phillip said if he'd known now what 
he knew back when he wrote his book, he would have approached many 
solutions presented in his book much differently. I don't know 
differently how. That's a question I'd like to ask him if I see him again.

I have both. But I recommend Phillip's if I have to choose. One other 
thing about Phillip's. Springer is a very huge publisher of very 
technical, mostly mathematical, expensive texts. They don't publish 
trash. They publish Phillip's book in hardcover only. I expected a good 
binding. When I opened it for the first time, a page fell out.

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Chris Calloway | 3 Nov 19:47 2005
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Re: Camp Five Reading

Chris Calloway wrote:
> But I recommend Phillip's if I have to choose.

There's also this:

http://www.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Projects/ComponentArchitecture/FrontPage/Zope3Book

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TJ Stankus | 17 Nov 20:55 2005
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OT: Usability Testing

Hello ZPUGgers. Sorry to go off-topic here, but I trust the experience and
opinions of people on this list.

One of my clients is looking for local resources/vendors for running web site
usability testing. If it went well, this would be a recurring job, perhaps 4
or 5 times a year. Hourly pay would be the likely setup, but other
arrangements are also possible. Pass this on if you know anyone with
experience running this kind of testing, or if you have experience with a
vendor and don't mind sharing feel free to contact me off-list.

Thanks,

-TJ

Chris Calloway | 22 Nov 16:02 2005
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Re: Boot Camps

Due to really crazy schedules for myself and Geoff Davis, Camp Five is 
postponed until a later date to be determined later.

PyCamp and Plone Boot Camp are very much happening as scheduled.

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Chris Calloway | 22 Nov 16:10 2005
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November and December meetings

This is fourth Tuesday. I haven't seen a meeting announcement.

It was Duke's turn. Based on a previously published rotation and vote we 
took, I put up a calendar item for December at UNC.

The question is, should the December 6 meeting be at Duke or UNC? It's 
Duke's turn and UNC is previously scheduled for December. Speak up now 
so more meeting announcements can be broadcast.

I changed the December topic to DistUtils and Python Eggs. Remember, 
we'd like lots of short talks on a number of topics. You can always add 
more topics to a meeting. If you have a topic you'd like to speak on, 
speak up.

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Chris Calloway
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office: 17-6 Venable Hall   phone: (919) 962-4323
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599

Chris Calloway | 22 Nov 18:17 2005
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Re: November and December meetings

Ben Best wrote:
> I'm happy to host the next meeting on December 6th.

OK, I'll change the posted rotation. Duke on the 6th. UNC in Jan. NCSU 
in Feb.

> I'd still love to 
> hear about ArchGenXML if Mike is around in Dec, but DistUtils and Python 
> Eggs sound good too.

Moving the DistUtails and Python Eggs to Jan at UNC.

Mike, can you do ArchGenXML on Dec 6 at Duke?

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Chris Calloway
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Geoff Davis | 22 Nov 22:39 2005
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RE: November and December meetings

I'd be happy to do a little presentation on psyco.  It won't be something
long enough for the whole meeting -- probably more like 10-15 minutes.
While the big presentations are great when we can get them, I think it might
be easier to get a bunch of short presentations each time rather than trying
to get longer ones.  (That being said, I'd love to learn more about
ArchGenXML, DistUtils, and Eggs and am hoping that those will happen soon)

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Subject: [triangle-zpug] November and December meetings

This is fourth Tuesday. I haven't seen a meeting announcement.

It was Duke's turn. Based on a previously published rotation and vote we 
took, I put up a calendar item for December at UNC.

The question is, should the December 6 meeting be at Duke or UNC? It's 
Duke's turn and UNC is previously scheduled for December. Speak up now 
so more meeting announcements can be broadcast.

I changed the December topic to DistUtils and Python Eggs. Remember, 
we'd like lots of short talks on a number of topics. You can always add 
more topics to a meeting. If you have a topic you'd like to speak on, 
speak up.

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Chris Calloway
http://www.seacoos.org
office: 17-6 Venable Hall   phone: (919) 962-4323
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599

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Ben Best | 22 Nov 16:38 2005

Re: November and December meetings

Hi Chris,

Sorry about letting this month's meeting slip.  I burned the midnight oil for a big deadline today, and won't be available for this evening.  I'm happy to host the next meeting on December 6th.  I'd still love to hear about ArchGenXML if Mike is around in Dec, but DistUtils and Python Eggs sound good too.

-Ben

On 11/22/05, Chris Calloway <cbc <at> unc.edu> wrote:
This is fourth Tuesday. I haven't seen a meeting announcement.

It was Duke's turn. Based on a previously published rotation and vote we
took, I put up a calendar item for December at UNC.

The question is, should the December 6 meeting be at Duke or UNC? It's
Duke's turn and UNC is previously scheduled for December. Speak up now
so more meeting announcements can be broadcast.

I changed the December topic to DistUtils and Python Eggs. Remember,
we'd like lots of short talks on a number of topics. You can always add
more topics to a meeting. If you have a topic you'd like to speak on,
speak up.

--
Sincerely,

Chris Calloway
http://www.seacoos.org
office: 17-6 Venable Hall   phone: (919) 962-4323
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599



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<p>Hi Chris,<br><br>
Sorry about letting this month's meeting slip.&nbsp; I burned the
midnight oil for a big deadline today, and won't be available for this
evening.&nbsp; I'm happy to host the next meeting on December
6th.&nbsp; I'd still love to hear about ArchGenXML if Mike is around in
Dec, but DistUtils and Python Eggs sound good too.<br><br>
-Ben<br><br></p>
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<span class="gmail_quote">On 11/22/05, Chris Calloway &lt;<a href="mailto:cbc@...">cbc <at> unc.edu</a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote">
This is fourth Tuesday. I haven't seen a meeting announcement.<br><br>It was Duke's turn. Based on a previously published rotation and vote we<br>took, I put up a calendar item for December at UNC.<br><br>The question is, should the December 6 meeting be at Duke or UNC? It's
<br>Duke's turn and UNC is previously scheduled for December. Speak up now<br>so more meeting announcements can be broadcast.<br><br>I changed the December topic to DistUtils and Python Eggs. Remember,<br>we'd like lots of short talks on a number of topics. You can always add
<br>more topics to a meeting. If you have a topic you'd like to speak on,<br>speak up.<br><br>--<br>Sincerely,<br><br>Chris Calloway<br><a href="http://www.seacoos.org">http://www.seacoos.org</a><br>office: 17-6 Venable Hall&nbsp;&nbsp; phone: (919) 962-4323
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