Euan | 1 Apr 2003 12:03
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American DMCA revisions: run a firewall, go to jail.

OK, this is Australia, not America and so far, from the _very_ little I
know Australia seems to be getting it mostly right. However forewarned
as they say...

Read about it here:

	http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/30003.html

	http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/03/30/0524244&mode=nested&tid=158&tid=103&tid=193

	http://www.freedom-to-tinker.com

I know a lot of people see RMS as an extremist, he is! However he has
IMO gotten many things right. From August we have:

	http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=00/08/28/1158221

I encourage you to read the linked essay by RMS.

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diane | 1 Apr 2003 02:04
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Re: Next meeting


>
>Apparently we can get internet access provided we don't use too much, or
>something like that.

I'll look into it before the meeting and try to see if we can get it going 
reliably.  I've got a wireless station so maybe if I bring that along we 
can get the internet happening a bit more readily.  I gathered the last 
timethere was a bit of a problem with connection dropping out if people got 
in the way of the antenna, or whatever.

Thanks for asking around for extension leads and boards.  I usually just 
grab some from upstairs, but it's prob better if we bring our own.  I think 
I have quite a lot at home so in future will try to bring them to every 
meeting.

diane

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Tony Langdon | 1 Apr 2003 02:09
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RE: Next meeting

> I'll look into it before the meeting and try to see if we can 
> get it going 
> reliably.  I've got a wireless station so maybe if I bring 
> that along we 
> can get the internet happening a bit more readily.  I 
> gathered the last 
> timethere was a bit of a problem with connection dropping out 
> if people got 
> in the way of the antenna, or whatever.

Well, where does the Internet connection have to get to?  2.4 GHz isn't
known for its ability to penetrate obstacles, so we have to give it as much
help as we can... :-)

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Andrew Greig | 1 Apr 2003 01:55

Re: American DMCA revisions: run a firewall, go to jail.

Thanks Euan for those links.

I read the essay by Richard Stallman (RMS), beautifully crafted, yet 
brief. I imagine that we should email all our members of Parliament with 
a copy of this essay.  Something a bit Orwellian about the moves in 
America with the Digital Millennium Copyright Act DMCA).

Andrew

Euan wrote:
> OK, this is Australia, not America and so far, from the _very_ little I
> know Australia seems to be getting it mostly right. However forewarned
> as they say...
> 
> Read about it here:
> 
>     http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/30003.html
> 
>     http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/03/30/0524244&mode=nested&tid=158&tid=103&tid=193
> 
>     http://www.freedom-to-tinker.com
> 
> I know a lot of people see RMS as an extremist, he is! However he has
> IMO gotten many things right. From August we have:
> 
>     http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=00/08/28/1158221
> 
> I encourage you to read the linked essay by RMS.
> 

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Euan | 1 Apr 2003 14:34
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Re: Linux for Web and Email

* Jason Hounam (jasondh <at> tpg.com.au) wrote:
> I am looking to change my already running mail server (running on
> windows) to Linux. The only problem is my lack of knowledge with mail
> servers under Linux. I also desire to run a web server with PHP
> capabilities on the same machine.
>  
Apache has support for PHP, I'm learning it at the moment so can't give
you much more than that. On Debian it went something like this:

	# apt-get install apache
then
	# apt-get install php4

then
	# <editor of choice> /etc/apache/httpd.conf

and make sure
	LoadModule php4_module <path to apache php4 module eg:
				/usr/lib/apache/1.3/libphp4.so>

You'll have to do your own reading on how to secure php and apache if
you're going to use it publicly, I haven't so can't advise you on that.
I do know that that default settings for php are very permissive though.

> For the mail server, I'd like something with a web-based admin
> preferably, but not necessary.
>
I use Postfix, Exim's gotten a lot of good press as well. IMO it's best
to avoid sendmail for the same reason it's bet to avoid Outlook as a
mail client; their popularity makes them bigger targets for worms etc.
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Tony Langdon | 1 Apr 2003 02:34
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RE: American DMCA revisions: run a firewall, go to jail.

> Thanks Euan for those links.

Yes, very interesting
> 
> I read the essay by Richard Stallman (RMS), beautifully crafted, yet 
> brief. I imagine that we should email all our members of 
> Parliament with 
> a copy of this essay.  Something a bit Orwellian about the moves in 
> America with the Digital Millennium Copyright Act DMCA).

Certainly something of real concern here.  It's interesting that a number of
the elements in that essay have already come to pass, and it's only 2003,
not 2047!  DMCA and its descendents are certainly evil legislation.  I've
already been affected by the DMCA, because I used to run a Live365 stream.
The content of the stream was 100% public domain, basically amateur radio
transmissions that anyone within range could legally listen to with a cheap
scanner from Dick Smith.

However, because of the DMCA, Live365 were forced to find a way to allow
their music broadcasters (who were using copyright material) to broadcast
legally.  Their solution was to slap a blanket $5 US/month fee on all
broadcasters.  Their rationale was that those who weren't broadcasting
copyright material were supporting their efforts to get legal advice.  My
feeling was that I didn't ask them to do it, and I had NO intention of
broadcasting copyright material, so I was being charged $120/year (aussie
peso) for something I didn't want and definitely didn't ask for.  In the
end, I just pulled the plug (however, a new interactive service using Speak
Freely is about to start this week, I've been testing the server last
night). :)

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JC | 1 Apr 2003 03:06
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MySQL hosting

Hey all,
 
Just wondering if anyone knew a free/cheap web host that has MySQL facilities?
 
Thanks in advance
 
JC
Michael Carmody | 1 Apr 2003 03:43
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Re: MySQL hosting

I'm using Sanctum (www.sanctum.com.au)

I actually instigated the admin hetting php/MySQl running on his Solaris 
webserver.

For a non-profit organisation that I help out with the hosting fees are only 
$20 a month.

-Michael

On Tue, 1 Apr 2003 11:06 am, JC wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> Just wondering if anyone knew a free/cheap web host that has MySQL
> facilities?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> JC

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Michael Girdwood | 1 Apr 2003 03:56

RE: MySQL hosting

Hi,

PHPWebhosting (www.phpwebhosting.com) is quite good. You get virtually your
own linux box to play with (within reason). You can run cron and stuff.
Pretty much all resources are open-ended, if it's for legitimate reasons.
Cost is US$9.95/month which, at the moment, is around $17.00.

Michael

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Subject: Re: [MLUG] MySQL hosting

I'm using Sanctum (www.sanctum.com.au)

I actually instigated the admin hetting php/MySQl running on his Solaris
webserver.

For a non-profit organisation that I help out with the hosting fees are only
$20 a month.

-Michael

On Tue, 1 Apr 2003 11:06 am, JC wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> Just wondering if anyone knew a free/cheap web host that has MySQL
> facilities?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> JC

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fat cat | 1 Apr 2003 04:26
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Re: MySQL hosting

Hi JC,

minihub, also a non-profit org, does hosting too.
$11/month for individuals and orgs.

www.minihub.org

diane

At 11:06 AM 01/04/2003 +1000, you wrote:

Hey all,
 
Just wondering if anyone knew a free/cheap web host that has MySQL facilities?
 
Thanks in advance
 
JC

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