David Mandel | 1 Feb 2011 23:20

ANNOUNCEMENT: February PLUG Meeting

                            MEETING ANNOUNCEMENT

                       The Portland Linux/Unix Group
                                 will meet
                         7 PM Thursday Feb 3, 2011
                                     at
                         Portland State University
                                   in the
                              Fariborz Maseeh
             College of Engineering & Computer Science Building
                              Room FAB 86-01
                       (This is in the basement.)
          The building is on SW 4th across from SW College Street.
       See location H-10 on map at http://pdxLinux.org/campus_map.jpg

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                                Presentation
                               What is Open?
                                     by
                                David Mandel
                         <dmandel <at> DavidMandel.com>

    David Mandel is interested in distilling the core ideas
    from the philosophy of Open Source Software and extending
    these into other areas like music, publishing, farming,
    and education.  In the past he has given presentations
    on Open Source Agriculture.

    In this presentation, David wants to discuss Open Source
    in education.  This is not a presentation about using
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Keith Lofstrom | 2 Feb 2011 01:06
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Looking for Linux laptop, SATA, >= 2007

A former plugger is now in foreign lands, and wants a replacement
for his venerable Thinkpad T30.  He likes the Lenovo T60, but most
of those on eBay are going for more than he can afford.  Being
stateside, I can buy and fix and test before sending to him.  Once
it is shipped, it will be difficult to maintain, so we want something
robust.  SATA and WIFI are required, something 2007 or newer needed
so it has some life left.  He will be running Ubuntu, probably 10.04 .

Any T60s available under $180 among you?  More likely, do any of
you have another quality brand of laptop which you can recommend
for reliability and for Linux drivers? 

We are thinking HP if we can't afford a Thinkpad, but I have
insufficient experience with their reliability.  I've seen far
too many failures with Dell to take a risk with those.  Heck,
many models of Thinkpads have flaws (some T30s, some T61s), but
at least I know which ones to avoid, the Linux Thinkpad community
shares lots of stories.

Please don't think of this as an opportunity to unload a junker.
This machine will be my friend's livelihood, and he will not earn
the funds for replacement for a long time.  We need data more than
we need a particular machine.

Keith

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Keith Lofstrom          keithl <at> keithl.com         Voice (503)-520-1993
KLIC --- Keith Lofstrom Integrated Circuits --- "Your Ideas in Silicon"
Design Contracting in Bipolar and CMOS - Analog, Digital, and Scan ICs
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Galen Seitz | 2 Feb 2011 01:06

Re: IPv4 address exhaustion - beginning of the end in 8 days

Who was it that volunteered to give an advanced topics talk on IPv6? 
I think I missed the announcement.  ;-)

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Galen Seitz
galens <at> seitzassoc.com
Tim | 2 Feb 2011 02:21
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Re: IPv4 address exhaustion - beginning of the end in 8 days


> Who was it that volunteered to give an advanced topics talk on IPv6? 
> I think I missed the announcement.  ;-)

Haha.  

I did already give one a couple of years ago:
  http://projects.sentinelchicken.org/howtos/lug-ipv6

Looking back at the presentation, it's remarkable how close the
estimates were on exhaustion.  Of course the past prediction data is
all available in the IPv4 Address Report.

I'm not sure if I'd have time to put together another talk with a
different focus... But I would be interested in attending and lending
discussion points though. 

tim
John Jason Jordan | 2 Feb 2011 02:33
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Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: February PLUG Meeting

On Tue, 1 Feb 2011 14:20:14 -0800
David Mandel <dmandel <at> pdxLinux.org> dijo:

>                            MEETING ANNOUNCEMENT
>
>                       The Portland Linux/Unix Group
>                                 will meet
>                         7 PM Thursday Feb 3, 2011
>                                     at
>                         Portland State University
>                                   in the
>                              Fariborz Maseeh
>             College of Engineering & Computer Science Building
>                              Room FAB 86-01
>                       (This is in the basement.)
>          The building is on SW 4th across from SW College Street.
>       See location H-10 on map at http://pdxLinux.org/campus_map.jpg

But wait, there's more!

There will be a door prize!

Two DDR2-667 512MB sticks, SiS brand. They came from a recent laptop
and were working fine when removed. If you're the lucky one now you can
upgrade that laptop!
_______________________________________________
PLUG mailing list
PLUG <at> lists.pdxlinux.org
http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
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Daniel M. Head | 2 Feb 2011 03:41
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fun with iptables

Hey everyone,

Sorry about the newbie questions... This one is giving me fits. I have 
the openvpn client rules set up (as per my question yesterday - thank 
you again EJ), and the correct ip is being assigned to my test account.

Now, I am trying to restrict that test account to only be able to access 
one specific server. All other traffic of any form should be allowed. As 
it is, my test account is not able to access anything except the openvpn 
server itself. If I turn iptables off, everything is talking to 
everything again.

Here is the output of the iptables file (I have also added comments to 
the five custom entries I made in iptables. Also, IPs and names have 
been changed, not that it really matters):

    [dan <at> server1 sysconfig]# cat iptables
# Firewall configuration written by system-config-securitylevel
# Manual customization of this file is not recommended.
*filter
:INPUT ACCEPT [0:0]
:FORWARD ACCEPT [0:0]
:OUTPUT ACCEPT [0:0]
:RH-Firewall-1-INPUT - [0:0]
-A FORWARD -i tun0 -s 192.168.0.1/30 -d 172.16.0.50 -j ACCEPT #This 
client should be able to access this one server.
-A FORWARD -i tun0 -s 192.168.0.1/30 -j DROP #The same client should not 
be able to access anything else.
-A FORWARD -i tun0 -j ACCEPT #Everyone else should be able to access 
everything else.
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Larry Brigman | 2 Feb 2011 04:19
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Re: IPv4 address exhaustion - beginning of the end in 8 days

On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 5:21 PM, Tim <tim-pdxlug <at> sentinelchicken.org> wrote:
>
>
>> Who was it that volunteered to give an advanced topics talk on IPv6?
>> I think I missed the announcement.  ;-)
>
> Haha.
>
> I did already give one a couple of years ago:
>  http://projects.sentinelchicken.org/howtos/lug-ipv6
>
> Looking back at the presentation, it's remarkable how close the
> estimates were on exhaustion.  Of course the past prediction data is
> all available in the IPv4 Address Report.
>
> I'm not sure if I'd have time to put together another talk with a
> different focus... But I would be interested in attending and lending
> discussion points though.
>

I'm trying to talk one of my co-workers to brush up his presentation and give it
at Advanced topics.  I'll let you know how it goes.
Dafydd Crosby | 2 Feb 2011 17:15
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Linux User Group Survey

Hello,
    I've made a survey for Linux User Group members across North America. I
would like to get the pulse of different groups and see what's working so
that all LUG's can improve the experience. This data will be published on
http://clug.ca (the Calgary Linux User Group website) on August, 2011. The
survey is only 12 questions, and shouldn't take more than 5 minutes to
complete.

http://www.lonesomecosmonaut.com/limesurvey/index.php?sid=94921&newtest=Y&lang=en

Thank you for your participation!

-Dafydd
President of Calgary Linux User Group
Rich Shepard | 2 Feb 2011 19:05
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when was the first release of Grass 64 bit? (fwd)

   This is a interesting thread from the GRASS (Geographic Resource Analysis
Support System) GIS mail list. Apparently, Wikipedia notes that a
Windows-based GIS called Manifold was the first 64-bit GIS when released in
May 2006. The author of that article is apparently un-aware that GRASS
started life as the Ft. Hood Environmental Information System in 1988 and
was developed by the Army Corps of Engineers' Construction Engineering
Research Lab (CERL) at the Univ. of Illinois in Chambana for use on UNIX
systems.

   For more than a decade, since CERL dropped development, it has continued
to grow primarily through the efforts of European developers. The main
platform since then has been linux and the *BSDs, but proprietary unices
were supported for a while.

   So, for anyone who cares, here are the pertinent selections from this
thread:

---------- Forwarded message ----------

> I am reading through http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manifold_System. It
> claims: "Release 7.00 was issued in May 2006 and followed up by Release 7x
> in the next three months. 7x was released in two flavors: 32-bit and
> 64-bit. Manifold 7x was the first ever 64-bit GIS application in the
> industry."

> Does any know when GRASS 64-bit was first released?

http://grass.osgeo.org/announces/announce_grass500pre2.html
GRASS GIS 5.0.0pre2 released 13 September 2001
"Platforms supported by GRASS:
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website reader | 2 Feb 2011 19:33
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Trying to change gnome-terminal command behavior

I am trying to open a new window on my desktop using the
"gnome-terminal" command line, but have noticed a peculiarity which I
would like to find a fix for.

When the command first comes up, it switches the active focus to that
new window on the desktop which is traditional behavior.  The mouse
and keyboard follow suite and are echoed in the new window.  A person
can jump out by mouse clicking outside the new window.

However if I am running on a different desktop and have a background
program which issues the "gnome-terminal" command in a different
desktop area, gnome-terminal brings up the active window in my desktop
area, not the one of the issuing program running the script file.

This is quite annoying, as it grabs the mouse and keyboard entries,
right in the middle of my work and leads to problems.

How can I force gnome-terminal to not jump over desktops but stay
rooted in the desktop of the shell script file that issued the
command?

The script files issues multiple gnome-terminal commands, since a work
file is being processed, so I don't need this constant popping up and
grabbing the focus behavior.  I want gnome-terminal to stay in the
original desktop where the script file resides and let me work in
peace.

Any ideas?

p.s. I am surprised that the command doesn't have an option to control
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