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Bruce | 1 Sep 2010 01:32
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Re: Sign on information

On 08/31/2010 11:16 AM, Jason Barnett wrote:
> Not sure of the exact steps you took but I had a similar problem with one of
> the betas.  Here is how I got around it...
>
> When booting, hold down on the shift key to show the GRUB menu.
> > From the menu, select the RECOVERY option, this will give you access to a
> root prompt
> At this point you can change the password for any user, so just change it to
> one that you can remember
> when done, simply reboot and you should be able to log in using the new
> password.
>
> Jason
>
> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 5:43 AM, Scott Howard<showard <at> k-hlaw.com>  wrote:
>
>    
>> I created a pendrive using USB create and Ubuntu 10.4 as set forth on the
>> Ubuntu website.  When loaded the program demands logon information.  I
>> cannot find the user name and password and did not set one.  I also do not
>> know how to get past the gui to get to a command line.  Thank you in advance
>> for any help.
>>
>> Scott Howard
>>
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Michael C. Robinson | 1 Sep 2010 07:34

Hard drive dilemna...

I'm a little tight right now and have noticed that my hard drive in 
one of my servers is dying.  The problem is, that hard drive is ATA 
100 and the motherboard doesn't support serial ATA.  I don't need a 
more powerful server, but the Serial ATA push does pose a problem.

I bit the bullet and bought 2 ATA 100 250 GB drives on EBay.  I 
figure I can keep one sealed for when the other drive wears out.  
How long do I have to stock up on ATA 100 drives and as needed 
80 wire cable?  Is there a cheap way to refurbish working drives 
that are starting to have trouble?  What thoughts can people offer 
on adding PCI cards that support SATA to older PIII systems?

What I'm looking at is sinking maybe $100/month into ATA 100 
hard drives to stock up for when the drives I am using now 
wear out.  I figure if I keep a drive in the sealed anti 
static bag that it shouldn't wear out.

Should I stock up on ATA 100 hard drives for when my current drives 
wear out, or is there a Serial ATA PCI card I should get that works 
well under Linux?  Do I have to get new power supplies if I purchase 
PCI SATA cards?

This problem goes beyond just my servers.  I have a mixed environment
of computers where many of them use PATA hard drives exclusively.
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Michael C. Robinson | 1 Sep 2010 07:40

Video card dilemna...

I switched from a Radeon HD 3450 AGP 4x/8x card to an NVIDIA 4x/8x 6200
AGP card.  First problem at least for Fedora 12 is that I have to use a
proprietary driver instead of the nouveau driver.  Second issue, the
proprietary driver doesn't seem to support text consoles.  Another
problem that has come up when I try to run Dirk Dashing or Eschalon 
Book I full screen is that the game isn't fit to the screen.

On the up side, I can report that Eschalon Book I at least runs much
much faster with the NVIDIA card than it does with the Radeon HD card
and the random crashing issue seems to have gone away.  On the downside,
looking for a Linux compatible video card and then having to use an
imperfect proprietary driver isn't cool.

Slackware 13 seems to be able to support the NVIDIA card with an OSS
driver which is odd.
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Jason Barnett | 1 Sep 2010 07:54
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Re: Hard drive dilemna...

Had you posted yesterday, I would have given you a PCI SATA controller
card.  As it is, you can find one at FreeGeek if you get there soon. :)

I would recommend something along the lines of this
http://www.cooldrives.com/sata-drive-to-ide-converter-mini.html as being a
better solution for your situation.
These are cheap and should be invisible to your OS so you shouldn't have any
compatibility problems.  Of course, I have not tried them so I cannot speak
from experience.

Refurbishing HDDs is just asking for failure.  Motors and bearings wear out
with use.  You could extend the life of a few drives by swapping controller
boards if two identical drives fail in different ways, but it is not likely
to be worth your trouble.

The only factor I can think of that could possibly be a problem with just
stocking up on IDE drives, is with the platters beginning to sag over time.
I know this used to be an issue, but not sure if it is still a problem.  If
it is still relevant, I imagine it could be controlled by simply rotating
the drives 180 degrees, each year while in storage.  I would recommend
researching further...

I think your best bet is to use an IDE to SATA adapter, this way, you can
take advantage of the latest in technology and energy savings, while also
making sure the drives you use are new and under warranty.  Also, this way,
if you ever upgrade to a new server, you won't be searching around trying to
find a way to use IDE drives with a motherboard that only supports SATA (or
newer).

Just my 2 cents worth,
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Larry Brigman | 1 Sep 2010 08:03
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Re: Hard drive dilemna...

On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 10:34 PM, Michael C. Robinson
<plug_1 <at> robinson-west.com> wrote:
> I'm a little tight right now and have noticed that my hard drive in
> one of my servers is dying.  The problem is, that hard drive is ATA
> 100 and the motherboard doesn't support serial ATA.  I don't need a
> more powerful server, but the Serial ATA push does pose a problem.
>
> I bit the bullet and bought 2 ATA 100 250 GB drives on EBay.  I
> figure I can keep one sealed for when the other drive wears out.
> How long do I have to stock up on ATA 100 drives and as needed
> 80 wire cable?  Is there a cheap way to refurbish working drives
> that are starting to have trouble?  What thoughts can people offer
> on adding PCI cards that support SATA to older PIII systems?

Locals ENU and Iguana Micro have New ATA drives.
Also Newegg and Mwave both still carry new ATA devices.

>
> What I'm looking at is sinking maybe $100/month into ATA 100
> hard drives to stock up for when the drives I am using now
> wear out.  I figure if I keep a drive in the sealed anti
> static bag that it shouldn't wear out.

As long as you really have a sealed bag not just taped shut.  Also you need
to control your storage environment.  The shipping boxes for them
would be better
than the raw anti-static bag.  Storing them flat is not recommended.
Side or end.

>
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Robbert van Andel | 1 Sep 2010 18:28
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File Owner Question

I am working with a USB drive supplied to us by a former contract company
that contains a backup of an Oracle databse. Looking at the file system, I
see this:

drwxr-xr-x  6 60004 60004  4096 Jan 25  2010 .
drwxr-xr-x 11 root  root   4096 Feb 20  2007 ..
drwxrwxrwx  4 60004 60004  4096 Dec  5  2007 6614448.992
-rw-------  1 60004 60004 16883 Jan 25  2010 .bash_history
-rw-r--r--  1 60004 60004   901 Oct 23  2009 .bash_profile
-rwxrwxrwx  1 60004 60004   424 Feb  1  2008 check_patches1.sh
-rwxrwxrwx  1 60004 60004  1220 Feb  1  2008 check_patches2.sh
As you can see, the owner and group are showing just a number. My guess is
this is the user id of the owner as it existed on the original server. Is
that correct? The company gave me a set of users to recreate but not the
original Second, is there a way to determine what correct this?
Unfortunately, asking the contractor is not an option.

Thanks,
Robbert van Andel
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Michael C. Robinson | 1 Sep 2010 18:54

Re: File Owner Question

On Wed, 2010-09-01 at 09:28 -0700, Robbert van Andel wrote:
> I am working with a USB drive supplied to us by a former contract company
> that contains a backup of an Oracle databse. Looking at the file system, I
> see this:
> 
> drwxr-xr-x  6 60004 60004  4096 Jan 25  2010 .
> drwxr-xr-x 11 root  root   4096 Feb 20  2007 ..
> drwxrwxrwx  4 60004 60004  4096 Dec  5  2007 6614448.992
> -rw-------  1 60004 60004 16883 Jan 25  2010 .bash_history
> -rw-r--r--  1 60004 60004   901 Oct 23  2009 .bash_profile
> -rwxrwxrwx  1 60004 60004   424 Feb  1  2008 check_patches1.sh
> -rwxrwxrwx  1 60004 60004  1220 Feb  1  2008 check_patches2.sh
> As you can see, the owner and group are showing just a number. My guess is
> this is the user id of the owner as it existed on the original server. Is
> that correct? The company gave me a set of users to recreate but not the
> original Second, is there a way to determine what correct this?
> Unfortunately, asking the contractor is not an option.
> 
> Thanks,
> Robbert van Andel
> _______________________________________________
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> PLUG <at> lists.pdxlinux.org
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Looks like the user this referred to is lost.  This is a good reason to
backup the password files along with a data backup.  I don't think there
is any way to figure out what is supposed to be in /etc/password from
the bare number.  If the user id was the same one that the database
used, then set up Oracle if at all possible and chown to the Oracle
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Michael C. Robinson | 1 Sep 2010 19:00

Re: File Owner Question

http://www.amazon.com/RMAN-Recipes-Oracle-Database-Problem-Solution/dp/1590598512

I wonder if the tool mentioned in the above link was used to make the
backup?
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Robbert van Andel | 1 Sep 2010 19:05
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Re: File Owner Question

On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Michael C. Robinson <
plug_1 <at> robinson-west.com> wrote:

>
> http://www.amazon.com/RMAN-Recipes-Oracle-Database-Problem-Solution/dp/1590598512
>
> I wonder if the tool mentioned in the above link was used to make the
> backup?
>
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actually it was created using cp -av. I'll try the chown method.
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Michael C. Robinson | 1 Sep 2010 19:29

Re: File Owner Question

On Wed, 2010-09-01 at 10:05 -0700, Robbert van Andel wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Michael C. Robinson <
> plug_1 <at> robinson-west.com> wrote:
> 
> >
> > http://www.amazon.com/RMAN-Recipes-Oracle-Database-Problem-Solution/dp/1590598512
> >
> > I wonder if the tool mentioned in the above link was used to make the
> > backup?
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > PLUG mailing list
> > PLUG <at> lists.pdxlinux.org
> > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
> >
> 
> 
> actually it was created using cp -av. I'll try the chown method.
> _______________________________________________
> PLUG mailing list
> PLUG <at> lists.pdxlinux.org
> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug

My brother-in-law Sean Ressler could give you the answer as he does
Oracle for a living.  I'm worried that there is some proprietary
procedure you need to get the username/groupname set right.
I'm sure there are other Oracle professionals around as well, anyone?
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