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Russell Senior | 1 Oct 2006 02:03

Re: Ubuntu and comcast

>>>>> "MJang" == MJang  <mike <at> mommabears.com> writes:

Russell> But why not, when you *do* have the choice, support the
Russell> service providers that have more customer-friendly policies,
Russell> rather than counting on the draconian ISPs lack of diligence.
Russell> Over at the Personal Telco Project, we know of several ISPs
Russell> that are *not* draconian when it comes to, for example,
Russell> sharing your connection.

Russell> One of PTP's founding goals was to route around this kind of
Russell> monopoly telco damage.

MJang> Russell, what providers have more friendly policies? Who do you
MJang> (or PTP) recommend?

Technically, I guess we don't "recommend" anyone because that might
tread on our non-profit status.  But we have a wiki page that lists
ISP sharing policies (it might be somewhat dated):

  <http://wiki.personaltelco.net/index.cgi/IspWirelessPolicies>

The ones that are obvious winners here are those with official policy
allowing sharing:

  Stephouse Networks
  Easystreet
  Integra
  Speakeasy

Several others are less solidly okay with sharing, but from whom we've
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Richard C. Steffens | 1 Oct 2006 03:33
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VMware Install on SuSE

Has anyone installed VMware on SuSE 10.1, or any other version?

I finished the first part of the process, installing VMware Server 
1.0.1. Next is to install VMware Management Interface. The instructions 
at: http://pubs.vmware.com/server1/wwhelp/wwhimpl/js/html/wwhelp.htm say 
to install libdb.so.3. I don't find that library in YaST. The helpful 
instruction from the VMware install guide says, "If your distribution CD 
does not have this package, contact your vendor for a suitable library."

Any ideas?

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Carlos Konstanski | 1 Oct 2006 04:05

Re: VMware Install on SuSE

libdb is part of the "db" package.  Look for "db" in YaST.  This is the
Berkeley DB Database.  It would be weird if you didn't already have db
because RPM uses it.  The more likely scenario is that your version is
too old.

See http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/suse/9.3/i386/suse/i686/db-4.3.27-3.1.i686.html

I realize this is a URL to a 9.3 repository, and you have 10.1.  As long
as the package version is good enough, I'm not sure that matters.

Carlos Konstanski

On Sat, 30 Sep 2006, Richard C. Steffens wrote:

> Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 18:33:49 -0700
> From: Richard C. Steffens <rsteff <at> comcast.net>
> Reply-To: "General Linux/UNIX discussion and help;	civil and on-topic"
>     <plug <at> lists.pdxlinux.org>
> To: PLUG List <plug <at> lists.pdxlinux.org>
> Subject: [PLUG] VMware Install on SuSE
> 
> Has anyone installed VMware on SuSE 10.1, or any other version?
>
> I finished the first part of the process, installing VMware Server 1.0.1. 
> Next is to install VMware Management Interface. The instructions at: 
> http://pubs.vmware.com/server1/wwhelp/wwhimpl/js/html/wwhelp.htm say to 
> install libdb.so.3. I don't find that library in YaST. The helpful 
> instruction from the VMware install guide says, "If your distribution CD does 
> not have this package, contact your vendor for a suitable library."
>
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Rich Shepard | 1 Oct 2006 05:07
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Re: VMware Install on SuSE

On Sat, 30 Sep 2006, Richard C. Steffens wrote:

> Has anyone installed VMware on SuSE 10.1, or any other version?

Dick,

   What VMware are you installing? Is the workstation? From your description
it seems you have an enterprise release, and I have no idea how to work with
that.

Rich

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Richard C. Steffens | 1 Oct 2006 06:25
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Re: VMware Install on SuSE

Rich Shepard wrote:

>   What VMware are you installing? Is the workstation? From your description
> it seems you have an enterprise release, and I have no idea how to work 
> with that.

I got the tarball for VMware Server from:

http://register.vmware.com/content/download.html

It's the first one on the Linux list, about halfway down the page. They 
have several other downloads that it looks like they want me to need, 
but I haven't gotten that far.

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Richard C. Steffens | 1 Oct 2006 06:22
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Re: VMware Install on SuSE

Carlos Konstanski wrote:
> libdb is part of the "db" package.  Look for "db" in YaST.  This is the
> Berkeley DB Database.  It would be weird if you didn't already have db
> because RPM uses it.  The more likely scenario is that your version is
> too old.

YaST does indeed have db in its list, and db itself is already 
installed. The list includes db, db1, db1-debuginfo, db1-devel, db40, 
db41, db42 and all the same additional packages as db1 for each of them. 
  At the end of that list are db-debuginfo and db-devel, neither of 
which were installed. I installed db-devel which is described as, 
"Include Files and Libraries for the Berkeley DB library" under the 
assumption that libdb will be one of the libraries.

I haven't downloaded the VMware management program that requires it yet; 
perhaps tomorrow evening.

Thanks for the pointer to the db package.

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Tim Bruce | 1 Oct 2006 06:25

Re: VMware Install on SuSE

Richard C. Steffens wrote:
> Rich Shepard wrote:
>
>>   What VMware are you installing? Is the workstation? From your
>> description
>> it seems you have an enterprise release, and I have no idea how to
>> work with that.
>
> I got the tarball for VMware Server from:
>
> http://register.vmware.com/content/download.html
>
> It's the first one on the Linux list, about halfway down the page.
> They have several other downloads that it looks like they want me to
> need, but I haven't gotten that far.
>

Since you are using SuSE, download the RPM version and use yast -i
VM*.rpm as root.

That will install it correctly for SuSE.

Tim
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Richard C. Steffens | 1 Oct 2006 06:39
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Re: VMware Install on SuSE

Tim Bruce wrote:

> Since you are using SuSE, download the RPM version and use yast -i
> VM*.rpm as root.
> 
> That will install it correctly for SuSE.

Thanks. Do I need to uninstall the part I already installed, first? If 
so, where do I start on that?

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Rich Shepard | 1 Oct 2006 17:22
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Re: VMware Install on SuSE

On Sat, 30 Sep 2006, Richard C. Steffens wrote:

> I got the tarball for VMware Server from:
> http://register.vmware.com/content/download.html
> It's the first one on the Linux list, about halfway down the page. They
> have several other downloads that it looks like they want me to need, but
> I haven't gotten that far.

Dick,

   I don't understand why you chose that product. They've certainly
re-organized their web site and product naming since selling the company,
but that looks like an enterprise product that's meant to be used by
multiple people simultaneously.

   Several years ago they forked their one product into the "workstation"
version and the "enterprise server" solution. I've been using the former
since version 0.7 or 0.8 and now have 5.5 installed. It's been hosting
win98se for seeral years and does just fine. I suspect that you don't need
the server edition. And, the workstation (look under Products->Developers,
that's where it's now tucked away) is sufficiently expensive by itself.

   The server will partition your hard drive into multiple virtual machines.
Is that what you want? The workstation will install into an existing linux
partition and let you install a guest OS that's there when you need it.

Rich

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Carlos Konstanski | 1 Oct 2006 18:56

Re: VMware Install on SuSE

Let me add to this that VMWare has a free PLAYER and a free SERVER
product.  I made heavy use of the free player until I recently
discovered the free server.  The server is an awesome product.  It
allows you to run your VMs on a remote machine, and attach to them using
the remote console (also free).  This splits the CPU time between 2
machines.  The machine running the guest OS does not have to deal with
the display, and the machine dealing with the display does not have to
deal with the running processes.  This arrangement gives me a great
performance boost.  Also, you can simply X out of the console, and the
VMs stay running.  It's like screen for virtual machines.

Go to http://www.vmware.com/products/server/ and get that puppy!  Or, if
you are running gentoo, simply do:

emerge app-emulation/vmware-server
emerge app-emulation/vmware-server-console
emerge app-emulation/vmware-modules
env-update
source /etc/profile
vmware-config.pl

Carlos Konstanski

On Sun, 1 Oct 2006, Rich Shepard wrote:

> Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 08:22:02 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Rich Shepard <rshepard <at> appl-ecosys.com>
> Reply-To: "General Linux/UNIX discussion and help;	civil and on-topic"
>     <plug <at> lists.pdxlinux.org>
> To: "General Linux/UNIX discussion and help;	civil and on-topic"
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