Gabriel H. Mercado | 1 Jun 04:48
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Re: Internet Cafe Project (born from the PLUG meet ideas thread)

ive decided to put my money where my mouth is and finally make the big switch

im downloading the 8.04 ubuntu alternate cd iso via torrent now, and
will be installing asap, my main goal being to make this my main daily
use machine hopefully forever. As in 'Sayang ang XP license ko'
forever - forever.

I know the act of choosing an OS needs to go through committee but
frankly, I think OS wars are largely useless nowadays and besides, our
goal is to make a suitable (if not superior) desktop alternative for
icafes, so the choice of apps seem a more pressing issue as opposed to
platform. At any rate, if a relevant argument exists wherein I should
choose another Linux flavor, I'm all ears just the same.

So this makes me a beta - tester na rin.

I'll be blogging about this on a regular basis (I'll put up my PLUG
related Feed up on linux.org.ph soon). My primary concern, btw, re
this OS are its bundled multimedia apps, which I suppose is largely
unnecessary for iCafes. However this is still going to be my daily
desktop PC, so some concessions have to be made (I still wanna watch
my videos!).

Oh and finally, I didn't choose Ubuntu blindly as I have had some
experience running a vps webserver using Ubuntu / LAMPP, so I'm
actually comfy using terminal and apt, and ironically, zero experience
using it as a desktop. Anyway, we'll see.

here's the torrent if anyone cares to join me:

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Carlo Taguinod | 1 Jun 05:09
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Re: Internet Cafe Project (born from the PLUG meet ideas thread)

  • I wanna start a core group to get this project going. This group will focus only on this, and will only be composed of members who can provide help.
  • After determining members, a decision has to be made re OS and apps involved.
  • Each version will be burnt on a bootable image and distributed to beta testers.
  • We will need a few beta testers.
  • Someplace on the 'net to discuss revisions, issues, etc.
  • One or two internet cafes to dry run it on.
  • Once live, we need to host it somewhere, downloadable via torrent or something like that.
  • Update PLUG site (and whoever else is interested) re our progress. Inform press once we've got version 1 going. <-- I'll take care of this.
There's an adopt a computer shop linux project thread in tipidpc - http://www.tipidpc.com/viewtopic.php?tid=123043
I just thought it might be a good idea to involve them as testers.

caloy
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Rommel Asibal | 1 Jun 06:12
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PHP + SQL Server

Hello,

Has anyone here ever successfully gotten php to work with sql server?   I'm just testing out a few things and wondered if has been done by someone here already...

Cheers!

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Ariz Jacinto | 1 Jun 09:53
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[rant?] Business-Related Topics (was: What Do You Wanna Learn From A PLUG Meet?)

i don't know about that. remember when we tried this before and the attendance was less than stellar (less than 20 compared to the usual 200++). but maybe things are different now than before? 
 
maybe doing business is not really in our culture to start with? if i'm going to use the analogy (sari-sari store?), most of us could easily think of having a OSS-powered cyber cafe which is not really a bad idea but it's one sure way to turn your back against your target demographics (been there, done that hehehe. btw, Valve's Steam client is now or might be available on linux soon). guess what?, running an OSS-powered internet startup is much cheaper _now_ than running a internet cafe. although you might not see revenues immediately as compared to running an internet cafe but the rewards are definitely much bigger if you're lucky. and even if you don't have any exit strategies, creating a useful site could boost your r esume. just make sure that the site is still alive until after your next successful job interview, hehe.
 
maybe that's it! maybe it's in our "DNA" to be the best employee/consultant for a well known/global company. so why are we complaining about brain drain when we should really worry when we could no longer _export_ manpower? :-P i don't see any difference working for a foreign company operating in the Phils as compared to working overseas or as a telecommuter. i mean, afaik any IP that you've contributed locally are owned still by the foreign company unless stated otherwise (*although i'm only talking about tech and not the public health sector, but the Phils might really have a shortage of IT professionals in the near future (2030-ish?) since most of the younger generation wanted or "forced?" to become a n urse)
 
it's starting to sound like a weekend rant hehehe. anyway, if you're going to proceed with the business-format meetup, you might want to consider having the following:
 
  From Ideas to IP Management
  Writing Business Plans/Whitepapers
  Legal/Accounting Aspects of Running a Company
  Fund-Raising: Bootstrap, Angels, VCs, Lenders
  Live Pitch
 
i think you can have more audience if those interested wouldn't see it as PLUG/FOSS-centric event (local .net/java community wants the same thing!). Pitching can be the most fun and interesting but i'm not sure if that would work since afair we're privy about our own ideas. natatakot kasi yata tayong magaya at maunahan ng iba, tama ba? if that's the case then force everyone to sign the NDA upon registration  :-p
 
 
 
 
 
On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 9:53 PM, Christian Masancay <csmasancay-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
Good evening,

Hi Gary, I just think business concepts would be a great help for an
organization [...] Not all PLUG members are IT professionals, but you have
people from other professions like accountants, auditors, security
professionals, engineers and even doctors. I believe that PLUG can go
further if people are not always technology-oriented.

Sincerely yours,

Cris
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Xander Solis | 1 Jun 10:19
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Re: PHP + SQL Server

Hi Rommel,

You might want to look at PEAR::MBD2 (http://pear.php.net/package/MDB2)

It's the PEAR database abstraction layer that you can use, so your application can connect to the database, irregardless which database server it is stored.

There is a local PHP Users Group, you might as well check them out for advise.

http://phpugph.com

Best Regards,

Xander Solis

On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 12:12 PM, Rommel Asibal <rumzster-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
Hello,

Has anyone here ever successfully gotten php to work with sql server?   I'm just testing out a few things and wondered if has been done by someone here already...

Cheers!


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Robert Locke | 1 Jun 10:34
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Re: PHP + SQL Server

Hi Rommel,

Yes, we've gotten PHP to talk to SQL Server.  Specifically:

	PHP 5.1.6 + mssql + PEAR::DB + freetds 0.63 -> SQL Server 2000

So, yes it's possible.  Let us know if you run into any specific  
problems and good luck!

Rob

On 06 1, 08, at 12:12 PM, Rommel Asibal wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Has anyone here ever successfully gotten php to work with sql  
> server?   I'm just testing out a few things and wondered if has  
> been done by someone here already...
>
> Cheers!
>
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Mark David Dumlao | 1 Jun 13:28
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Re: usb flash drive eraser.

The moment it said I/O error on the sudo, the deal seemed pretty much sealed to me.
Back up and get a new one?

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Christian Masancay | 1 Jun 13:36
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Re: [rant?] Business-Related Topics (was: What Do You Wanna Learn From A PLUG Meet?)

Good evening,

Hi Ariz, how are you? You're already good at this as a treasurer (I
mean managing money? hehe, nice friendster pics) Anyway, if remember
it correctly, it was a bad schedule (near end of school year) Well
it's not really about doing business, but more of having a business
approach/perspective for PLUG. I know It's not really the culture of
PLUG but every other established non-profit organization out there has
a business value of some sort.

This "business value" may not always be quantifiable, but it's
basically the reason why companies would be willing to sponsor
activities and projects of a non-profit organization. I personally
think, that the real assets of PLUG are it's people, not the mailing
list. Maybe, there is something we can do to take advantage of the
great talent/skill/knowledge of these people besides the technical
support that they offer in the mailing list. What value can we provide
to the community (not just open source, but also the business
community, which is an integral part of our overall economy) besides
being a mailing list of technically competent people?

Just another perspective from a "not always" technical guy..=)

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Sincerely yours,

Cris Masancay

On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 3:53 PM, Ariz Jacinto <acjacinto@...> wrote:
> i don't know about that. remember when we tried this before and the
> attendance was less than stellar (less than 20 compared to the usual 200++).
> but maybe things are different now than before?
>
> maybe doing business is not really in our culture to start with? if i'm
> going to use the analogy (sari-sari store?), most of us could easily think
> of having a OSS-powered cyber cafe which is not really a bad idea but it's
> one sure way to turn your back against your target demographics (been there,
> done that hehehe. btw, Valve's Steam client is now or might be available on
> linux soon). guess what?, running an OSS-powered internet startup is much
> cheaper _now_ than running a internet cafe. although you might not
> see revenues immediately as compared to running an internet cafe but the
> rewards are definitely much bigger if you're lucky. and even if you don't
> have any exit strategies, creating a useful site could boost your resume.
> just make sure that the site is still alive until after your next successful
> job interview, hehe.
>
> maybe that's it! maybe it's in our "DNA" to be the best
> employee/consultant for a well known/global company. so why are we
> complaining about brain drain when we should really worry when we could no
> longer _export_ manpower? :-P i don't see any difference working for a
> foreign company operating in the Phils as compared to working overseas or as
> a telecommuter. i mean, afaik any IP that you've contributed locally are
> owned still by the foreign company unless stated otherwise (*although i'm
> only talking about tech and not the public health sector, but the
> Phils might really have a shortage of IT professionals in the near future
> (2030-ish?) since most of the younger generation wanted or "forced?" to
> become a nurse)
>
> it's starting to sound like a weekend rant hehehe. anyway, if you're going
> to proceed with the business-format meetup, you might want to consider
> having the following:
>
>   From Ideas to IP Management
>   Writing Business Plans/Whitepapers
>   Legal/Accounting Aspects of Running a Company
>   Fund-Raising: Bootstrap, Angels, VCs, Lenders
>   Live Pitch
>
> i think you can have more audience if those interested wouldn't see it as
> PLUG/FOSS-centric event (local .net/java community wants the same thing!).
> Pitching can be the most fun and interesting but i'm not sure if that would
> work since afair we're privy about our own ideas. natatakot kasi yata tayong
> magaya at maunahan ng iba, tama ba? if that's the case then force everyone
> to sign the NDA upon registration  :-p
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>> On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 9:53 PM, Christian Masancay <csmasancay@...>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Good evening,
>>>
>>> Hi Gary, I just think business concepts would be a great help for an
>>> organization [...] Not all PLUG members are IT professionals, but you
>>> have
>>> people from other professions like accountants, auditors, security
>>> professionals, engineers and even doctors. I believe that PLUG can go
>>> further if people are not always technology-oriented.
>>>
>>> Sincerely yours,
>>>
>>> Cris
>
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Jerome Gotangco | 1 Jun 14:35
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Re: Internet Cafe Project (born from the PLUG meet ideas thread)

On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 10:48 AM, Gabriel H. Mercado
<ghmercado@...> wrote:
> incidentally, Gideon's reference to WINE's compatibility list helped a
> lot in this decision. I just can't live without photoshop. Giving that
> up is just not gonna happen.

You should grab Codweavers crossover linux to be able to have
Photoshop support
http://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/browse/name?app_id=8 CS3 not
included
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fooler mail | 1 Jun 15:46
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Re: usb flash drive eraser.

On 6/1/08, Mark David Dumlao <stuffinator@...> wrote:
> The moment it said I/O error on the sudo, the deal seemed pretty much sealed
> to me.
> Back up and get a new one?

well the solution there is to throw it away and buy another one :->

good thing my USB thumbdrive has a lifetime warranty, i can replace it
anytime once it broken and i did it two times already :->

fooler.
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