James Attard | 6 Mar 08:31 2007
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beryl

small question (just to satiate my mere statistical appetite) - how
many of you use Beryl? i know of people who are still avid command
line penguins (text based browsers, text based multimedia players,
etc). I want to see how other people are using their box.

james

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Gregory Smirnov | 6 Mar 09:58 2007

Re: beryl

On Tuesday 06 March 2007 08:31, James Attard wrote:
> small question (just to satiate my mere statistical appetite) - how
> many of you use Beryl? i know of people who are still avid command
> line penguins (text based browsers, text based multimedia players,
> etc). I want to see how other people are using their box.
>
> james

Hello James,

I tried compiz :) played around and enjoyed. But practically it slows down my 
working place, so I switched back to normal desktop (kde or xfce4) at work 
and home. Same on my laptop, I need efficient performance, not 3D tools. 
Personally I prefer desktop environment to text console. But latest was a 
good start about 10 years ago, and still remains on the servers.

Most popular programs I use: kontact, konsole, vim, kate, make, gaim and 
firefox/epiphany.

Gregory

Re: beryl

I tried Beryl too and ran it for a couple of months. However, I found out that it slowed down my compile times. Its probably due to some excessive polling of IRQs or excessive traffic on the AGP bus. I just know that my compile times went up by 2X. I still have it installed and use it occasionally when I am not doing anything which is resource intensive.

I find some things to improve my efficiency of doing things via a GUI. I do not keep too much bling switched on. Just a waste of GPU cycles.

On 3/6/07, Gregory Smirnov <gregory-GLGCSomKPSE@public.gmane.org> wrote:
On Tuesday 06 March 2007 08:31, James Attard wrote:
> small question (just to satiate my mere statistical appetite) - how
> many of you use Beryl? i know of people who are still avid command
> line penguins (text based browsers, text based multimedia players,
> etc). I want to see how other people are using their box.
>
> james

Hello James,

I tried compiz :) played around and enjoyed. But practically it slows down my
working place, so I switched back to normal desktop (kde or xfce4) at work
and home. Same on my laptop, I need efficient performance, not 3D tools.
Personally I prefer desktop environment to text console. But latest was a
good start about 10 years ago, and still remains on the servers.

Most popular programs I use: kontact, konsole, vim, kate, make, gaim and
firefox/epiphany.

Gregory
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Philip Serracino Inglott | 6 Mar 10:16 2007
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Re: beryl

I tried the sabayon live mini-cd after I heard about it at the last MLUG. my home setup relies on boot cds as I have not replaced a crashed HD yet (it went down some months ago, and my second disk is LVMed, and i'm afraid to resize it) and at work i'm limted to using linux in vmware or on a server I have no physical access to.

I have promised myself that as soon as I get a new PC I'll install Sabayon, just for kicks. If I get around to doing it i'll tell you how it goes.

BTW does anyone know how linux friendly (or not) ASROCK AMD MBs are (espesially the ones with VSTA in their model number?)

Philip

Raphael Borg Ellul Vincenti wrote:
I tried Beryl too and ran it for a couple of months. However, I found out that it slowed down my compile times. Its probably due to some excessive polling of IRQs or excessive traffic on the AGP bus. I just know that my compile times went up by 2X. I still have it installed and use it occasionally when I am not doing anything which is resource intensive.

I find some things to improve my efficiency of doing things via a GUI. I do not keep too much bling switched on. Just a waste of GPU cycles.

On 3/6/07, Gregory Smirnov <gregory-GLGCSomKPSE@public.gmane.org> wrote:
On Tuesday 06 March 2007 08:31, James Attard wrote:
> small question (just to satiate my mere statistical appetite) - how
> many of you use Beryl? i know of people who are still avid command
> line penguins (text based browsers, text based multimedia players,
> etc). I want to see how other people are using their box.
>
> james

Hello James,

I tried compiz :) played around and enjoyed. But practically it slows down my
working place, so I switched back to normal desktop (kde or xfce4) at work
and home. Same on my laptop, I need efficient performance, not 3D tools.
Personally I prefer desktop environment to text console. But latest was a
good start about 10 years ago, and still remains on the servers.

Most popular programs I use: kontact, konsole, vim, kate, make, gaim and
firefox/epiphany.

Gregory
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Ederico Figallo | 6 Mar 13:49 2007
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Re: MLUG-list Digest, Vol 42, Issue 1

Jien kelli Compiz fuq SUSE, però kemm ilni li qlibt għall-Ubuntu, anke jekk ikkunsidrajt ninstalla l-Beryl, qatt ma sibt il-ħajra ninstallah għax l-installazzjoni dehritli ikkumplikata wisq.

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small question (just to satiate my mere statistical appetite) - how
many of you use Beryl? i know of people who are still avid command
line penguins (text based browsers, text based multimedia players,
etc). I want to see how other people are using their box.

james

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Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 09:58:56 +0100
From: Gregory Smirnov < gregory <at> 2x.com>
Subject: Re: [LINUX.ORG.MT] beryl
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On Tuesday 06 March 2007 08:31, James Attard wrote:
> small question (just to satiate my mere statistical appetite) - how
> many of you use Beryl? i know of people who are still avid command
> line penguins (text based browsers, text based multimedia players,
> etc). I want to see how other people are using their box.
>
> james

Hello James,

I tried compiz :) played around and enjoyed. But practically it slows down my
working place, so I switched back to normal desktop (kde or xfce4) at work
and home. Same on my laptop, I need efficient performance, not 3D tools.
Personally I prefer desktop environment to text console. But latest was a
good start about 10 years ago, and still remains on the servers.

Most popular programs I use: kontact, konsole, vim, kate, make, gaim and
firefox/epiphany.

Gregory


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Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 10:06:16 +0100
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Subject: Re: [LINUX.ORG.MT] beryl
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I tried Beryl too and ran it for a couple of months. However, I found out
that it slowed down my compile times. Its probably due to some excessive
polling of IRQs or excessive traffic on the AGP bus. I just know that my
compile times went up by 2X. I still have it installed and use it
occasionally when I am not doing anything which is resource intensive.

I find some things to improve my efficiency of doing things via a GUI. I do
not keep too much bling switched on. Just a waste of GPU cycles.

On 3/6/07, Gregory Smirnov <gregory <at> 2x.com> wrote:
>
> On Tuesday 06 March 2007 08:31, James Attard wrote:
> > small question (just to satiate my mere statistical appetite) - how
> > many of you use Beryl? i know of people who are still avid command
> > line penguins (text based browsers, text based multimedia players,
> > etc). I want to see how other people are using their box.
> >
> > james
>
> Hello James,
>
> I tried compiz :) played around and enjoyed. But practically it slows down
> my
> working place, so I switched back to normal desktop (kde or xfce4) at work
> and home. Same on my laptop, I need efficient performance, not 3D tools.
> Personally I prefer desktop environment to text console. But latest was a
> good start about 10 years ago, and still remains on the servers.
>
> Most popular programs I use: kontact, konsole, vim, kate, make, gaim and
> firefox/epiphany.
>
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Alan Muscat | 6 Mar 18:40 2007
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Re: beryl

I was using Beryl on an Turion Laptop with Ubuntu until a recent update ruined my setup.

I still have Beryl but it is not active and does not work when I do activate it. I don't have the time to fix it right now (I'm to busy with my Thesis), will most probably fix it in late May after my finals are over.

Regards,

Alan.

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Anton Xuereb | 7 Mar 10:00 2007
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Re: beryl

i use beryl daily u hekk.. I was on the SVN tree up to a couple of days ago but now i switched back to the official releases which are currently at 0.2.0rc3. My desktop actually looks pretty sucky without it, now that i got used to it. It still is alpha software tho and this shows in the extra high use of cpu u hekk..altho since RC3 this has been reduced drastically..
 
as an aside...anyone know why apart from beryl, xorg consumes a shitload of cpu at anything i do, even for example on a just booted desktop, and i drag my mouse across the screen to make a selection area, xorg easily goes up to 40% - 60% cpu usage and the animation jerks and gives problems. :S

 
On 3/7/07, Keith Vassallo <mail-qMiR/6JMWevyLurdFhj6qV6hYfS7NtTn@public.gmane.org> wrote:
Beryl works on my setup...

Ubuntu on Centrino Duo

But evrey 3 or 4 updates something gets royally screwed up. I keep
switching between the official packages and SVN to try to get around the
problem.

Guess we'll have to wait for Feisty!

Keith

On Tue, 2007-03-06 at 18:40 +0100, Alan Muscat wrote:
> I was using Beryl on an Turion Laptop with Ubuntu until a recent
> update ruined my setup.
>
> I still have Beryl but it is not active and does not work when I do
> activate it. I don't have the time to fix it right now (I'm to busy
> with my Thesis), will most probably fix it in late May after my finals
> are over.
>
> Regards,
>
> Alan.
>
> On Tue, 2007-03-06 at 08:31 +0100, James Attard wrote:
> > small question (just to satiate my mere statistical appetite) - how
> > many of you use Beryl? i know of people who are still avid command
> > line penguins (text based browsers, text based multimedia players,
> > etc). I want to see how other people are using their box.
> >
> > james
> >
> --
> Captain Alan Muscat.
>
> 403. 'Zephyr',
> Mikiel Ang. Grima Street,
> Pembroke  STJ 07
> MALTA.
>
>    TEL: +356 21 372773
>    FAX: +356 21 374764
>    MOB: +356 99 423001
> e-mail: alanmuscat-UKzjlUiH/9ZqaDWv6m70ww@public.gmane.org
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Keith Vassallo | 7 Mar 09:09 2007
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Re: beryl

Beryl works on my setup...

Ubuntu on Centrino Duo

But evrey 3 or 4 updates something gets royally screwed up. I keep
switching between the official packages and SVN to try to get around the
problem.

Guess we'll have to wait for Feisty!

Keith

On Tue, 2007-03-06 at 18:40 +0100, Alan Muscat wrote:
> I was using Beryl on an Turion Laptop with Ubuntu until a recent
> update ruined my setup.
> 
> I still have Beryl but it is not active and does not work when I do
> activate it. I don't have the time to fix it right now (I'm to busy
> with my Thesis), will most probably fix it in late May after my finals
> are over.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Alan.
> 
> On Tue, 2007-03-06 at 08:31 +0100, James Attard wrote: 
> > small question (just to satiate my mere statistical appetite) - how
> > many of you use Beryl? i know of people who are still avid command
> > line penguins (text based browsers, text based multimedia players,
> > etc). I want to see how other people are using their box.
> > 
> > james
> > 
> -- 
> Captain Alan Muscat.
> 
> 403. 'Zephyr',
> Mikiel Ang. Grima Street,
> Pembroke  STJ 07
> MALTA.
> 
>    TEL: +356 21 372773
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Re: beryl

Anton... are you sure that you are using hardware acceleration ? lol

Beryl is extremely alpha quality software. You just give it a try, enjoy it for a day or two and revert back. If you want something more stable stick to Compiz. For me they both still require some more polishing. I would give them another 6 months until its fit for stable use. Even newer drivers will change the situation.

Regards

On 3/7/07, Anton Xuereb <mewt.reaper-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
i use beryl daily u hekk.. I was on the SVN tree up to a couple of days ago but now i switched back to the official releases which are currently at 0.2.0rc3. My desktop actually looks pretty sucky without it, now that i got used to it. It still is alpha software tho and this shows in the extra high use of cpu u hekk..altho since RC3 this has been reduced drastically..
 
as an aside...anyone know why apart from beryl, xorg consumes a shitload of cpu at anything i do, even for example on a just booted desktop, and i drag my mouse across the screen to make a selection area, xorg easily goes up to 40% - 60% cpu usage and the animation jerks and gives problems. :S

 
On 3/7/07, Keith Vassallo < mail-qMiR/6JMWevyLurdFhj6qV6hYfS7NtTn@public.gmane.org> wrote:
Beryl works on my setup...

Ubuntu on Centrino Duo

But evrey 3 or 4 updates something gets royally screwed up. I keep
switching between the official packages and SVN to try to get around the
problem.

Guess we'll have to wait for Feisty!

Keith

On Tue, 2007-03-06 at 18:40 +0100, Alan Muscat wrote:
> I was using Beryl on an Turion Laptop with Ubuntu until a recent
> update ruined my setup.
>
> I still have Beryl but it is not active and does not work when I do
> activate it. I don't have the time to fix it right now (I'm to busy
> with my Thesis), will most probably fix it in late May after my finals
> are over.
>
> Regards,
>
> Alan.
>
> On Tue, 2007-03-06 at 08:31 +0100, James Attard wrote:
> > small question (just to satiate my mere statistical appetite) - how
> > many of you use Beryl? i know of people who are still avid command
> > line penguins (text based browsers, text based multimedia players,
> > etc). I want to see how other people are using their box.
> >
> > james
> >
> --
> Captain Alan Muscat.
>
> 403. 'Zephyr',
> Mikiel Ang. Grima Street,
> Pembroke  STJ 07
> MALTA.
>
>    TEL: +356 21 372773
>    FAX: +356 21 374764
>    MOB: +356 99 423001
> e-mail: alanmuscat-UKzjlUiH/9ZqaDWv6m70ww@public.gmane.org
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Ederico Figallo | 7 Mar 11:38 2007
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Xi ħadd minnkom juża l-programm Memoranda?

Dan:
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