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Girish Venkatachalam | 1 Dec 2011 05:49
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[TIP] perl beginning

Dear all,

I have intermittent Internet access. Hence the absence of tips on the days
 I am unavailable.

I shall try to fix this problem.

Since we have seen a little bit of javascript, jQuery and CGI I think
we should revisit this
later. It is not possible to learn everything at one go.

Today I am starting perl training. Since I am not very good at Python
I will send tips in python later
 to improve my skills in that. ;)

Anyway let us begin with some history and background of perl.

This will also put you on a good footing to attend my perl class on
the 18th of this month at TalentSprint
 Royappetah.

Simply put Perl is a scripting language, an interpreted language and
it began with a  focus on CGI and
text processing in the UNIX world.

Today we find perl being used in all OSes but it is primarily a UNIX
thing and has very strong leanings towards
 UNIX geeks, IPC and UNIX internals than Python.

Is this is the reason people in India prefer Python over perl? I dunno.
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Shrinivasan T | 1 Dec 2011 06:57
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Arun Khan | 1 Dec 2011 07:24
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Re: OpenSuse 12.1 Features Revealed

On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Prasanna Venkadesh
<prasmailme@...> wrote:
> OpenSuse is one of the most stable distro I have ever seen. Trust me, I
> have started linuxing with Ubuntu like many others and get crashed my
> system while trying up something new. But in this case everything is much
> stable.

I have been using SuSE Linux since 1996 for my servers and have been a
happy user.  I was evaluating 12.1 from RC1 stage for desktop and it
was stable.

> *Version Number*
>
> With a bunch of new features and elegant performance improvement this new
> version is numbered as directly .1 rather .0, because .0 would create many
> expectations of major improvements.

I installed 12.1 RC1 on a brand new laptop (i5-2430, 4GB RAM, Intel
GPU, WiFi, BT, card reader etc.) and all devices work out of the box
w/o the need for downloading BLOB drivers.  I upgraded to 12.1
released version as soon it was available on the mirrors.

On the desktop end I am happy with it.

However, if you want to use 12.1 on the server side - a few words of
caution.   I was an early adopter on the server side as well but
reverted back to 11.4.

There are quite a few issues, mostly related to the switch from System
V init to Systemd init.  Change to System V init, if you must use 12.1
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Arun Khan | 1 Dec 2011 07:53
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Re: edubuntu thin-client hardware recommendations

On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 8:39 AM, suraj Suraj <suraj@...> wrote:

> My requirements / problem-statements are:
>
> 1. No fans, no excessive cooling requirements  - overall be low on power
> consumption
> 2. super small form factor (preferably the ITX line); should be portable in
> bulk. (should be able to transport 15 of these in a car)
> 3. gigabit network support
> 4. no local storage (ie., no HDD / CD-ROM / etc., bulky/noisy/power-hungry
> stuff)
> 5. USB / SD / CF types external storage support

I am using Digilite's  DL425 Intel Atom board (mini-ITX FF).  It does
have a fan for the CPU; the noise is almost not perceptible.   For the
case you can use iBall "Netbook" cabinet; it does come with a small
fan but does not create much noise.  You can see the cabinet at iBall
web site.  You can visit panache.co.in for smaller and more glamorous
cabinets but expect to pay around Rs. 3K.  It is your choice.

Mumbai price estimate would be around Rs. 5500 for the
board+memory+cabinet (iBall).  TN cost would be in the same ball park.

You can PXE boot it or use a thin client firmware.  I have done some
eval with Thinstation.net but not quite happy with resolution of the
fonts and icons.

> 6. preferably works out-of-the-box with edubuntu / LTSP (ie., i'd rather be
> doing business than flashing ROMs or hand-configuring PXE)
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Kishore | 1 Dec 2011 08:07

Re: Fwd: [chennai.rb] [JOBS] Opportunities at Heurion a.k.a Rails Detectives - Both India and Abroad

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Hi,

I am a technology author, architect and trainer. I was earlier working as
the CTO of NuVeda Learning. I have also contributed modules in various open
source platforms. And have won the Yahoo Hack Day award twice consequently.
My books on technology by Packt Publications are sold internationally and I
have trained thousands of learners.

I am available as a technology trainer and as a consultant to troubleshoot
bottlenecks, architect and solve challenges related to technology.
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Suraj Kumar | 1 Dec 2011 08:39
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Re: [TIP] perl beginning

On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 10:19 AM, Girish Venkatachalam <
girishvenkatachalam@...> wrote:

>
> Is this is the reason people in India prefer Python over perl? I dunno.
>

Not just India, world over, perl is not as widely used as, say, Java or
Python because perl, for writing anything significant, requires mastery
over the language's internals. Without experience and/or careful thought,
one can completely ruin or make one's code horribly difficult to maintain
if they don't know what they're doing with perl.

But that is fast changing - with Moose (and other emergent frameworks built
on top of Moose (like Catalyst MVC framework)), perl is now an extremely
fast paced environment.

At least in LUG, the perl knowledge seems woefully poor.
>

Perhaps because no such survey (we know of) has been conducted in ILUGC to
conclude whether the knowledge is there or not ;)

>
> Unlike shell scripts and makefile variables, perl always requires a
> variable to be prefixed with one of
>  $,  <at>  or # before it.
>

"%" is used to prefix hash variables, not "#". But I can totally understand
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Girish Venkatachalam | 1 Dec 2011 09:39
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Re: [TIP] perl beginning

On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 1:09 PM, Suraj Kumar <suraj@...> wrote:
>
> Not just India, world over, perl is not as widely used as, say, Java or
> Python because perl, for writing anything significant, requires mastery
> over the language's internals. Without experience and/or careful thought,
> one can completely ruin or make one's code horribly difficult to maintain
> if they don't know what they're doing with perl.
>

Correct. It requires heavy investment like UNIX. I agree.

> But that is fast changing - with Moose (and other emergent frameworks built
> on top of Moose (like Catalyst MVC framework)), perl is now an extremely
> fast paced environment.

I dunno why. I never liked Catalyst and I am sure I won't like Moose either.

I am just comfortable with plain old perl with the hand. I might be a
luddite. Well.

>
> At least in LUG, the perl knowledge seems woefully poor.
>>
>
> Perhaps because no such survey (we know of) has been conducted in ILUGC to
> conclude whether the knowledge is there or not ;)

Well good that i see one comment from you. So I take back my words. Ha ha.

>> Unlike shell scripts and makefile variables, perl always requires a
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kenneth gonsalves | 1 Dec 2011 10:22

Re: Fwd: [chennai.rb] [JOBS] Opportunities at Heurion a.k.a Rails Detectives - Both India and Abroad

On Wed, 2011-11-30 at 18:46 +0530, Antano Solar wrote:
> I am a technology author, architect and trainer. I was earlier working
> as
> the CTO of NuVeda Learning. 

what exactly about the following words do you not understand:

'Please donot REPLY ALL or REPLY to the group'
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kenneth gonsalves | 1 Dec 2011 10:34

Re: [TIP] perl beginning

On Thu, 2011-12-01 at 10:19 +0530, Girish Venkatachalam wrote:
> Today we find perl being used in all OSes but it is primarily a UNIX
> thing and has very strong leanings towards
>  UNIX geeks, IPC and UNIX internals than Python. 

although your tips are appreciated, please avoid stating your opinions
as if they were facts.
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Girish Venkatachalam | 1 Dec 2011 11:27
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Re: [TIP] perl beginning

On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 3:04 PM, kenneth gonsalves
<lawgon@...> wrote:
> On Thu, 2011-12-01 at 10:19 +0530, Girish Venkatachalam wrote:
>> Today we find perl being used in all OSes but it is primarily a UNIX
>> thing and has very strong leanings towards
>>  UNIX geeks, IPC and UNIX internals than Python.
>
> although your tips are appreciated, please avoid stating your opinions
> as if they were facts.

Though your comment is correct I think in this particular case I am right.

Perl certainly is very UNIX focused unlike Python.

Now don't catch my neck. ;)

-Girish

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