Arun Khan | 1 Jun 05:27 2011
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Re: Fwd: Request permission to dub the film "Revolution OS" in Tamil

On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 12:54 AM, Shrinivasan T
<tshrinivasan@...> wrote:
> Friends.
>
> Finally, the Director of the film "Revolution OS", JTS Moore, granted permission
> to dub the film in Tamil and Hindi.

Wonderful initiative.   Kudos and thanks for pursuing it and getting
the permissions.

For the Hindi translation, I suggest forwarding your post to the ILUGs
in the Hindi speaking belt (e.g. Delhi, Indore, Jaipur).  I will
forward it to the ILUG-Delhi list.

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Re: Request for a Team to guide college students for open source projects

First, its great to hear the news. I wish I had this kind of support last
year when I was in final year..:(

We have 2 semesters.
> We can use 1 semester for training and the next for project development.
> Students will be available from 3.30 - 5.30 pm daily.
>
> We have to plan for the following things.
>
> 1. Trainers who can goto college in person to train the students
> 2. List of open source projects to contribute
> 3. Mentors for the students
>

If their availability can be guaranteed with internet connection, I think it
would be a good idea to create a dedicated IRC channel for initial training
periods. I have been seeing IITMHackers club organizing tutorial sessions
purely on IRC for things like VIM, Python ..etc. It also introduces them to
IRC channels which hosts highly technical discussions related to OpenSource
technologies.

> We need a huge list of project as all the students have to do individual
> projects.
>

While individual projects can really help in improving a student's
capabilities and knowledge, I still feel a team of two can be permissible
(just an optional one), so that they can discuss and work better on the
projects.

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Re: Request for a Team to guide college students for open source projects

> If their availability can be guaranteed with internet connection, I think
> it would be a good idea to create a dedicated IRC channel for initial
> training periods. I have been seeing IITMHackers club organizing tutorial
> sessions purely on IRC for things like VIM, Python ..etc. It also introduces
> them to IRC channels which hosts highly technical discussions related to
> OpenSource technologies.
>

I would like to add one more reason: people like me can help the students
through online discussions even off the official hours of 3.30 to 5.30
through these channels.

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velappan velappan | 1 Jun 06:20 2011
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Re: Request for a Team to guide college students for open source projects

Yea we can provide support them on our working hours.

~Vela

On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 9:46 AM, aruntheguy@...
<aruntheguy@...>wrote:

> > If their availability can be guaranteed with internet connection, I think
> > it would be a good idea to create a dedicated IRC channel for initial
> > training periods. I have been seeing IITMHackers club organizing tutorial
> > sessions purely on IRC for things like VIM, Python ..etc. It also
> introduces
> > them to IRC channels which hosts highly technical discussions related to
> > OpenSource technologies.
> >
>
> I would like to add one more reason: people like me can help the students
> through online discussions even off the official hours of 3.30 to 5.30
> through these channels.
>
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> Regards
> P.Arunmozhi
> Twitter:  <at> tecoholic
> Website: http://arunmozhi.in
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Raman.P | 1 Jun 06:45 2011
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Re: Request for a Team to guide college students for open source projects

I wish all the people thinking of helping consider few things - which are sad reality of present education.

1.Out of 180 students atleast 170 will require spoon-feeding, hand-holding etc. There is no substitute to
regular class-room+lab type of teaching for them.
2.Self learning is very minimal
3.College Management expects us to be physically present.
4.First semester will require extensive teaching and hence physical presence will be required. We can
form a team to teach different languages/tools.
5.During actual projects personal contacts/interaction can be minimal.
6.Teaching over irc,email, forum etc., are ruled out. At the maximum they can be used for clearing doubts

What are the ways ILUGC members can contribute?
1.If you can spare time (3.30 to 5.30) take class even if it is for 1 or 2 days please do. We will workout a
timetable and post it. 
2.Create project ideas in the wiki page. Also clearly state basic requirements. Since it is MCA projects
need not be IEEE.
3.During project stage the hours will be flexible and probably we can ask students to meet the mentors at a
place convenient to the mentor. So mentoring the project, in my opinion many can volunteer.

Raman.P
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Shakthi Kannan | 1 Jun 07:17 2011
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Re: Request for a Team to guide college students for open source projects

Hi,

--- On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Raman.P <raamanp@...> wrote:
| I wish all the people thinking of helping consider few things -
| which are sad reality of present education.
|
| 1.Out of 180 students atleast 170 will require spoon-feeding,
hand-holding etc.
\--

Usually only 5% are actually "students", interested in learning. The
others are just in there for the degree.

It is better to check first if the students are really interested.

SK

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Girish Venkatachalam | 1 Jun 07:12 2011
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Re: Request for a Team to guide college students for open source projects

Raman,

As usual your reply is wise and insightful. See comments inline.

On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Raman.P <raamanp@...> wrote:
> I wish all the people thinking of helping consider few things - which are sad reality of present education.
>
> 1.Out of 180 students atleast 170 will require spoon-feeding, hand-holding etc. There is no substitute
to regular class-room+lab type of teaching for them.

Well however true this is, great things are done in life with great
difficulties, great suffering
 and great self confidence.

Outside agents cannot change the attitude of people.

> 2.Self learning is very minimal

Auto didacts like Kamaraj who was unlettered but had incredible common
sense is what
 is needed to do great things.

Common sense, common sense, common sense.

A practical approach towards everything is needed.

> 3.College Management expects us to be physically present.

This is not reqd of course. Remote help is useful but people like me
can certainly
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Girish Venkatachalam | 1 Jun 07:21 2011
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Re: Request for a Team to guide college students for open source projects

On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 9:43 AM, aruntheguy@...
<aruntheguy@...> wrote:
>>
>> 1. Trainers who can goto college in person to train the students
>> 2. List of open source projects to contribute
>> 3. Mentors for the students

I am willing to help mentor students if they but visit my company and
so some work for me.

I can occasionally come and speak in colleges but that is difficult.

> If their availability can be guaranteed with internet connection, I think it
> would be a good idea to create a dedicated IRC channel for initial training
> periods. I have been seeing IITMHackers club organizing tutorial sessions
> purely on IRC for things like VIM, Python ..etc. It also introduces them to
> IRC channels which hosts highly technical discussions related to OpenSource
> technologies.

You need not restrict yourself to local facilities. You can also participate in
global mailing lists and stuff.

Of course learning from physical contact with sound engineers and motivated
 hackers always help.

Developing friendship with IIT boys can help you for sure.

> While individual projects can really help in improving a student's
> capabilities and knowledge, I still feel a team of two can be permissible
> (just an optional one), so that they can discuss and work better on the
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Vijith PA | 1 Jun 07:34 2011
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Authentication Failure After Lock Screen in LDAP? (Ubuntu 10.04)

Hi friends,

Am configured Open LDAP server  in Ubuntu Server10.04 and configured client
also some other ubuntu Desktop system,By  the first login time client
authenticating using LDAP server after Lock Screen it's not authenticating
from server  it's shows "Incorrect Password"

Auth.log

Jun  1 11:01:08 ldap gnome-screensaver-dialog: nss_ldap: failed to bind to
LDAP server ldap://192.168.1.172: Invalid credentials
Jun  1 11:01:08 ldap gnome-screensaver-dialog: nss_ldap: failed to bind to
LDAP server ldap://192.168.1.172/: Invalid credentials
Jun  1 11:01:08 ldap gnome-screensaver-dialog: nss_ldap: could not search
LDAP server - Server is unavailable
Jun  1 11:01:08 ldap unix_chkpwd: nss_ldap: failed to bind to LDAP server
ldap://192.168.1.172: Invalid credentials
Jun  1 11:01:08 ldap unix_chkpwd: nss_ldap: failed to bind to LDAP server
ldap://192.168.1.172/: Invalid credentials
Jun  1 11:01:08 ldap unix_chkpwd: nss_ldap: could not search LDAP server -
Server is unavailable
Jun  1 11:01:08 ldap unix_chkpwd[2057]: check pass; user unknown
Jun  1 11:01:11 ldap gnome-screensaver-dialog: nss_ldap: failed to bind to
LDAP server ldap://192.168.1.172: Invalid credentials
Jun  1 11:01:11 ldap gnome-screensaver-dialog: nss_ldap: failed to bind to
LDAP server ldap://192.168.1.172/: Invalid credentials
Jun  1 11:01:11 ldap gnome-screensaver-dialog: nss_ldap: could not search
LDAP server - Server is unavailable
Jun  1 11:01:11 ldap unix_chkpwd: nss_ldap: failed to bind to LDAP server
ldap://192.168.1.172: Invalid credentials
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Arvind S Raj | 1 Jun 07:50 2011
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Re: Request for a Team to guide college students for open source projects

On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Shakthi Kannan <shakthimaan@...>wrote:

> Hi,
>
> --- On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Raman.P <raamanp@...> wrote:
> | I wish all the people thinking of helping consider few things -
> | which are sad reality of present education.
> |
> | 1.Out of 180 students atleast 170 will require spoon-feeding,
> hand-holding etc.
> \--
>
> Usually only 5% are actually "students", interested in learning. The
> others are just in there for the degree.
>
> It is better to check first if the students are really interested.
>

That's true but rest of them require a little bit motivation is most cases.
And since it's the case that the college's interested and going to push them
to do their final year project, which will be graded, I think the students
would be interested for their own sake?

IMO the best way would be to start off by doing simple tasks such as
learning CMS', python, creating a blog where they write about their
experience, tools such as LaTeX etc. That's what we do to new students in my
campus-we've a set of simple tasks which they carry out-it increases their
confidence and they learn about various open source projects which they can
contribute to in future.

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