Dan Wilder | 1 Jan 2009 05:54
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Re: Does anyone know or have opinions about zt system computers

> On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 10:19 AM, Paul Bartell <paul.bartell <at> gmail.com>wrote:
> 
> > I'd say you have nothing to loose. Costco has a very nice return
> > policy. IF anything goes wrong within 30 days or something, or you
> > dont like it, they will take it back, no questions asked. (or so they
> > say)

It's true.  They will.  

I returned a TV that failed out of the box, approaching the counter
prepared to give an account.  

The the counterperson didn't even give me a chance -- just looked at the 
receipt, lifted the TV into a container, and handed me a wad of cash.  
With a smile.

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Frank Paterra | 2 Jan 2009 00:43

Re: Does anyone know or have opinions about zt system computers

Thanks to all who responded.  I pull the trigger and will let you know how it works out.

Frank

On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 8:54 PM, Dan Wilder <dhwilder <at> gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 10:19 AM, Paul Bartell <paul.bartell <at> gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > I'd say you have nothing to loose. Costco has a very nice return
> > policy. IF anything goes wrong within 30 days or something, or you
> > dont like it, they will take it back, no questions asked. (or so they
> > say)

It's true.  They will.

I returned a TV that failed out of the box, approaching the counter
prepared to give an account.

The the counterperson didn't even give me a chance -- just looked at the
receipt, lifted the TV into a container, and handed me a wad of cash.
With a smile.

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Aaron Appelbaum | 2 Jan 2009 06:09
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Really Cheap Linux Netboot

I found this $150 netbook deal through computergeeks.com. What do you guys think about it? Good deal?

http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=ALPHA-400

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Jarod Wilson | 2 Jan 2009 07:17
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Re: Really Cheap Linux Netboot

On Thu, 2009-01-01 at 21:09 -0800, Aaron Appelbaum wrote:
> I found this $150 netbook deal through computergeeks.com. What do you
> guys think about it? Good deal? 

I'd stay away from it. MIPS, while mainstream for embedded use, isn't
exactly common for a laptop/desktop machine, so you'd be reasonably
limited in what you could actually run on it. For one, most of the large
mainstream distros don't come in a MIPS flavor (Debian is the only large
distro that supports MIPS that comes to mind). Anything not provided by
your distro, you're probably going to have to build from source, which
may or may not be tested on MIPS.

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Aaron Appelbaum | 2 Jan 2009 07:25
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Re: Really Cheap Linux Netbook

I'd stay away from it. MIPS, while mainstream for embedded use, isn't
exactly common for a laptop/desktop machine, so you'd be reasonably
limited in what you could actually run on it. For one, most of the large
mainstream distros don't come in a MIPS flavor (Debian is the only large
distro that supports MIPS that comes to mind). Anything not provided by
your distro, you're probably going to have to build from source, which
may or may not be tested on MIPS.

Good to know. Thanks!
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john_re | 2 Jan 2009 14:53
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BerkeleyTIP TOMORROW Jan 3 Sat- Party Time :) Video Talks: Asterisk, GPU

YOU ARE INVITED TO ATTEND  :)  Join in with the friendly BTIP people.
IRC & VOIP communication - Use Ekiga VOIP SW & a Headset.

GLOBAL SIMULTANEOUS GNU(Linux), BSD & All Free SW & HW Monthly Meeting
TIP = Talks, Installfest, Potluck & ProgrammingParty
January 3rd 2009, Saturday.
Time: 10 AM - 6 PM    (All times Pacific USA)
  Adjust for your local time zone.   (Ex: = 1 PM - 9 PM Eastern)
http://groups.google.com/group/BerkTIPGlobal
[Click "Join this group" on the right page side to join the mail list.]

VIDEO TALKS
12N  - The Asterisk Telephone System - Paul Charles Leddy NYLUG
 2PM - GPU Computing - John Stone CLUG.org.za

==  TALK TOPICS, PROGRAMMING PARTY, INSTALLFEST, DISCUSSION  ==
Two great TALK TOPICS this month, one on the Asterisk Telephone/VOIP
system, and the other on GPUs -  Graphics Processing Units (the hardware
in graphics cards) which can do general purpose computing.

The directed PROGRAMMING PARTY will be to investigate Asterisk & Ekiga
with a goal to work on improving their technology for VOIP for the
BerkTIP-Global meeting. Undirected = work on whatever you're interested
in - what _is_ that?  Post a message to the BTIP-Global list.

INSTALLFEST: Maybe several laptop installs/upgrades in Berkeley, KUbuntu
& RH likely.  What are _you_ looking to do?  Post a message to the
BTIP-Global list.

DISCUSSION ITEMS:  Lots of exciting things to talk about: New AMD Phenom
II out Jan 8th, 64bit GUI distros, Firefox multi instance. Is OpenOffice
in poor development shape?  What's the best File System?  Intel hires
Alan Cox.  BTIP VOIP improvement features.  And, planning for the 2009
year - What would be fun to try to accomplish this year? International
members?  Better VOIP?  Video conferencing? Live talks?

=====================================================================
=====  BERKELEY-TIP: WHAT IT IS, WHAT WE DO, YOU ARE INVITED  =======

BerkeleyTIP is the MONTHLY GLOBAL / world wide
GNU(Linux), BSD & all Free Software & Hardware MEETING.
SIMULTANEOUS around the world.
TIP = Talks, Installfest, Potluck & ProgrammingParty
http://groups.google.com/group/BerkTIPGlobal
[Click "Join this group" on the right page side to join the mail list.]
The 1st Saturday of every month.

We get together to LEARN, TALK, HELP, HAVE FUN,
& PRODUCE more FREE SOFTWARE.
And, wherever you are, you're invited. :)
Come to Berkeley, or join with us on line, using VOIP & IRC.
Beginner to Expert - Old to Young - Student, Working or Retired -
Male or Female - Everyone is INVITED & WELCOME.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO PROGRAM, OR BE A PROGRAMMER.
END USERS WELCOME TO LEARN, CHAT, GET INSTALL HELP, etc.
JOIN with the meeting FOR ALL OR JUST PART of the TIME.
JOIN with the meeting FOR ALL OR JUST SOME of the ACTIVITIES.

=====================================================================
=====  CONTENTS:
=====  1) IRC & VOIP Communication
=====  2) VIDEO Talks- Thanks to CLUG & NYLUG videographers!
=====  3) ProgrammingParty = VOIP
=====  4) INSTALLFEST

=====  1) IRC & VOIP Communication
Join from home, or wherever you can get an IRC & VOIP connection.
Join by yourself, or with friends.
IRC: Freenode.net, Channel: #BerkeleyTIP
VOIP: Use Ekiga SW & a VOIP headset, 
  Do an Ekiga loopback test before the meeting, to ensure your system
  works properly.
http://groups.google.com/group/BerkTIPGlobal/web/irc-voip
Join the IRC channel & we'll help you get set up on VOIP.

=====  2) VIDEO Talks- Thanks to CLUG & NYLUG videographers!
Times are Pacific USA time - Adjust for your local time zone:
  Ex: Eastern time = Pacific + 3, ie 12N PST = 3PM EST
12N  - The Asterisk Telephone System - Paul Charles Leddy NYLUG
 2PM - GPU Computing - John Stone CLUG  www.clug.org.za

Download the videos the day or night before, so your connection is free
for VOIP, not consumed by the video download. Videos are typically
100 MB - 1 GB.
http://groups.google.com/group/BerkTIPGlobal/web/videos

== DOWNLOAD LINKS
The Asterisk Free Software Telephone System - Paul Charles Leddy
Run time: 1:22:15
http://nylug.org/meetings/index.shtml?20081000
http://www.archive.org/details/NYLUG_2008_10_23_General_Meeting_Video/

GPU Computing - John Stone
Keywords: GPU Computing; Parallel computing; HPC; high performance
computing; protein folding; vmd
Run time: 01:42:37
http://www.archive.org/details/clug-28-10-2008-gpu-computing

=====  3) ProgrammingParty = VOIP
We'll work on learning about the Ekiga & Asterisk software. Goal is to
improve the SW or config to improve aspects of VOIP for the BTIP meeting
- more end user info, details about the connection, communication
between client & server, & server admin interface.

=====  4) INSTALLFEST
In Berkeley we'll likely be working to figure out why a Dell Vostro 1 yr
old with a new KUbuntu 8.04 (I chose that over 8.10 to avoid KDE 4 till
its got more bugs out & more features in) is locking up, in fact might
have messed up the booting SW, cause it hangs booting linux now, but
boots the preinstalled-nonfreesw OS.  Possible suspects: bad WiFi
driver, bad NVidia HW or driver, perhaps leading to bad disk writes. Or,
maybe bad disk or controller or MBoard?

IF item 2: is a possible Ubuntu Intrepid install help.  IF item 3: is a
possible distro upgrade on a 5+yo IBM thinkpad with a several years old
RH.  The owner knows in the past there have been problems with the power
management or battery driver, & hates dealing with the details of having
to investigate & locate a driver, then patch & compile a custom kernel
to make it work.

=====
What questions do you have?  Join the group mailing lists & say hi, or
ask any questions.
http://groups.google.com/group/BerkTIPGlobal
http://groups.google.com/group/BerkTIP
[Click "Join this group" on the right page side to join the mail list.]

=====
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Bryan McLellan | 2 Jan 2009 19:50
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Re: Really Cheap Linux Netboot

On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 9:09 PM, Aaron Appelbaum <aonoraha <at> gmail.com> wrote:
> I found this $150 netbook deal through computergeeks.com. What do you guys
> think about it? Good deal?
>
> http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=ALPHA-400

I picked up an MSI Wind Desktop at Fry's last time I was there:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856167032

$140 + a disk + a 2GB stick of SO-DIMM DDR2. It has a 1.6Ghz Intel
Atom on board. It's a nice little box with features like the CF card
slot if you didn't want to use the SATA interfaces. I got one for my
mother too, and bought her a SATA CDROM since it does lack a PATA
interface. She's happy running Ubuntu on it to do everything she does
at home. These days I have so many NIB 200GB - 500GB SATA disks
kicking around I'm just itching for a use for them.

I mainly use my as a x86 platform to guarantee not having to screw
with flash, have an extra monitor for IRC and the likes without
complex multi-video card configurations, etc.
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Donald G | 5 Jan 2009 13:26
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ubuntu and PPPoE

Does anyone know how to connect to internet using PPPoE on Ubuntu?
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Benjamin Krueger | 5 Jan 2009 14:12
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Re: ubuntu and PPPoE

* Donald G (dlg_grdnr7 <at> yahoo.com) [090105 04:26]:
> Does anyone know how to connect to internet using PPPoE on Ubuntu?

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=82879

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Mark Foster | 5 Jan 2009 15:39

Reminder: meeting saturday

This is a reminder that the GSLUG meeting is next Saturday.

http://www.gslug.org/index.php/Meeting_2009-01-10

Please RSVP and even sign up for a lightning talk if you are thinking of 
one.

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