Re: Vendor independent certifications?
On Thu, 8 Mar 2012 17:17:05 -0500
Tom Buskey <tom@...> wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Brian St. Pierre <brian@...>wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 3:32 AM, Mike <mikebw@...> wrote:
> > > A friend of mine is looking for a career change and asks what sort of
> > > vendor independent certifications (that is, not another college degree)
> > > would help them get in the door in programming, web design, or system
> > > administration? She is not mainly asking about actual education, but
> > > rather how to prove knowledge in such a way that would convince
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > > prospective employers.
> > As far as programming or web design goes, I don't put much stock in
> > any kind of certification. I'd be far less likely to want to hire
> > someone based on a certificate than I would be based on demonstrable
> > experience. Also, "knowledge" is fleeting: stuff that I knew 5, 10, or
> > 15 years ago is useless today. Better to be able to prove that you're
> > smart and capable of learning things quickly.
> I'm a sysadmin and have hired some in the past. In the dot com era, we
> would sort resumes by "lots of certs" and experience. Then we looked at
> the resumes with experience. The certs got looked at if we couldn't find
> experience, but we never did.
> I always ask what people do at home with computers. Most people nowadays
> have them and an internet connection. There is no excuse (other then time)
> for not learning about free software. Most of the Microsoft stuff is
> available for evaluation (learn about AD, etc). You can run VirtualBox or
> VMware ESXi to run systems in VM if your computer is more recent.
> Being curious and service oriented is important. One of the best service
> desk techs I saw didn't know computers when he started. He was a
> troubleshooter for the gas company. Within 2 years he was figuring out how
> to upgrade an ATM network w/o downtime when the engineers said it would
> take shutting down everything & having it back up 18 months later.
I am also starting out in IT. I'm not sure how much certifications will help in getting a job. I know many
people who go on the internet and get brain dumps of the certifications and memorize the questions &
answers on the test. This does get them the certification without any real knowledge. That being said,
some certifications are probably better than others. I know the Red Hat certs are a list of tasks to be
completed on a system, not a bunch of multiple-guess questions.
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