Dan_Lee Vogler | 1 Dec 2003 04:45

History Lesson

http://news.com.com/2009-7349_3-5111410.html?tag=st_pop 

Jim Westbrook | 1 Dec 2003 14:06
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Re: Re: alg Digest, Vol 5, Issue 72

David McNett wrote:

> On 29-Nov-2003, Jim Westbrook wrote:
> > Interestingly, I just removed the full-blown version of Mozilla in favor
> > of the lighter weight Firebird browser.  However, for mail I still use
> > Netscape 4.80.  Yet another example of Linux having more options than
> > anything else these days.
>
> Which of the programs you mention is not available for Windows?

That really wasn't the point.  The point was that there are options on just
about everything in Linux.  I'll admit that I didn't phrase the previous post
very well.

JimW

Bob Pendleton | 1 Dec 2003 16:15

Re: History Lesson

On Sun, 2003-11-30 at 21:45, Dan_Lee Vogler wrote:
> http://news.com.com/2009-7349_3-5111410.html?tag=st_pop

To bad they didn't get the story right. My first experience with what we
now call a "virus" was in 1975. (Technically, it was a trojan, not a
virus.)  It was written by John Walker of Autocad fame. Look at
http://www.fourmilab.ch/documents/univac/pervade.html for more
information.

The damned thing seems to have come in on an OS release tape and withing
days had spread all over our mainframe. We had to shut down operations
and purge it. Then it came back. We had to search the file system using
the binary signature to kill all copies, and then it came back...

			Bob Pendleton

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Shane Williams | 1 Dec 2003 17:38

Re: History Lesson

While it's possible they just changed it a few seconds ago, they did
in fact mention Pervade in the side box and the timeline.  In fact,
now that I read farther, they spend several paragraphs and a whole
section of the article talking about it.

You must be spending too much time on slashdot ;-)

On Mon, 1 Dec 2003, Bob Pendleton wrote:

> On Sun, 2003-11-30 at 21:45, Dan_Lee Vogler wrote:
> > http://news.com.com/2009-7349_3-5111410.html?tag=st_pop
> 
> To bad they didn't get the story right. My first experience with what we
> now call a "virus" was in 1975. (Technically, it was a trojan, not a
> virus.)  It was written by John Walker of Autocad fame. Look at
> http://www.fourmilab.ch/documents/univac/pervade.html for more
> information.

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Bob Pendleton | 1 Dec 2003 18:44

Re: History Lesson

On Mon, 2003-12-01 at 10:38, Shane Williams wrote:
> While it's possible they just changed it a few seconds ago, they did
> in fact mention Pervade in the side box and the timeline.  In fact,
> now that I read farther, they spend several paragraphs and a whole
> section of the article talking about it.
> 
> You must be spending too much time on slashdot ;-)

Yeah, I know that... 

I just didn't read the article carefully enough. I read the title,
skimmed the first part of the article and when I realized they were only
going back 20 years I wrote it off. My fault entirely for not reading
the article in depth before posting it.

One thing I do find surprising is that people still find the concept of
self replicating code to be somewhat "peculiar". One of the first
homework assignments in one of my first programming classes was to write
a program that would print out a copy of its own source code, without
reading a file.

It was a very difficult assignment, but it drove home and important
concept, code is data.

			Bob Pendleton

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> On Mon, 1 Dec 2003, Bob Pendleton wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, 2003-11-30 at 21:45, Dan_Lee Vogler wrote:
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Jim Parkhurst | 1 Dec 2003 23:13
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Re: [Full-Disclosure] [SECURITY] [DSA-403-1] userland can access Linux kernel memory

If you have not seen this...

>>> debian-security-announce@... 12/01/2003 14:17 >>>
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Debian Security Advisory DSA-403-1                  
security@... 
http://www.debian.org/security/                         Wichert
Akkerman
December  1, 2003
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Package        : kernel-image-2.4.18-1-alpha,
kernel-image-2.4.18-1-i386, kernel-source-2.4.18
Vulnerability  : userland can access full kernel memory 
Problem type   : local
Debian-specific: no
CVE Id(s)      : CAN-2003-0961

Recently multiple servers of the Debian project were compromised using
a
Debian developers account and an unknown root exploit. Forensics
revealed a burneye encrypted exploit. Robert van der Meulen managed to
decrypt the binary which revealed a kernel exploit. Study of the
exploit
by the RedHat and SuSE kernel and security teams quickly revealed that
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Tracey Clark | 1 Dec 2003 23:24

Re: [Techtalk] Debian -> Gentoo

Since I run Gentoo I thought I'd take a stab at this.
I was unclear what the second issue was.

And it was said by Ricky Buchanan-->
> There are several important programs (Mutt and TF,
> to name two) which I need to manually download and compile because I
> need different compilation options than Debian defaults too (eg in Mutt
> I need --enable-buffy-size but the maintainer doesn't like it - I asked
> :\)

Gentoo works with everything being compiled from source, so it would
solve this problem. My suggestion would be to read the docs on Portage
(go to the www.gentoo.org site and look through the link for User
Documentation). Portage is the packaging system that the command "emerge"
works with.

> and others where I like to run the most up to date dev version but
> only the stable version is packaged.

I take it this is issue #2? If so, this would also be solved. You can run
anything because you can compile anything from source. If there is not
yet a package for foo-latest-12 you can go get the source from their
website or sourceforge.org, and compile it yourself. You can run as
bleeding edge as you like.

> Also, is there any way to "side-grade" my running system from Debian to
> Gentoo without actually delting everything and starting from scratch?
> Really I just want to get rid of apt, swap in Emerge, change whatever
> is inecessary and *boom*.  But I imagine it's not that simple.

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John E. Pearson | 2 Dec 2003 00:18
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Access

A friend asks me if there is an open source program for data bases 
with a slick gui interface for mysql or postgresql similar to M$ Acess.

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Jonathan Huizingh | 2 Dec 2003 01:28

Re: Access

Check out Mysqlcc on the mysql website.  It's more similar to MS Enterprise Manager, but it's a graphical way
to edit databases and stuff like that.

Jonathan Huizingh

----- Original Message -----
From: "John E. Pearson" <pearson@...>
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 16:18:59 -0700 (MST)
To: The ALG General Discussion List <alg@...>
Subject: [alg] Access

> A friend asks me if there is an open source program for data bases 
> with a slick gui interface for mysql or postgresql similar to M$ Acess.
> 
> -- 
> John E. Pearson
> Los Alamos Computers
> 2144 41st St.
> Los Alamos, NM
> 87544
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Cliff Cyphers | 2 Dec 2003 01:33

Re: Access

Check out OpenOffice.org.  They have the capability to integrate with
mysql (using ODBC).

http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/features/1.1/

For a howto check out:
www.unixodbc.org/doc/OOoMySQL.pdf

On Mon, 2003-12-01 at 18:28, Jonathan Huizingh wrote:
> Check out Mysqlcc on the mysql website.  It's more similar to MS Enterprise Manager, but it's a graphical
way to edit databases and stuff like that.
> 
> Jonathan Huizingh
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John E. Pearson" <pearson@...>
> Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 16:18:59 -0700 (MST)
> To: The ALG General Discussion List <alg@...>
> Subject: [alg] Access
> 
> > A friend asks me if there is an open source program for data bases 
> > with a slick gui interface for mysql or postgresql similar to M$ Acess.
> > 
> > -- 
> > John E. Pearson
> > Los Alamos Computers
> > 2144 41st St.
> > Los Alamos, NM
> > 87544
> > 
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