Paul Elliott | 3 May 2008 00:44
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Three presentations to Austin Linux Group!


Three upcomming presentations to Austin Linux Group!

On May 8 Paul Elliott will give a short demo of how to post to Drupal
ALG's web page. Message posting. Scheduling a presentation. Posting
a meeting minute. Mostly of interest to ALG board members and those
using Drupal.

On May 15 Clio Dunn will give a presentation on "Outliners on Linux"

	"Clio Dunn will give an overview of outliner options on
	Linux. Outliners are applications which aid in organizing
	data, thoughts or information into a hierarchical tree
	format. They can be used to create overviews or serve as a
	structure for programming, educational or writing
	projects. There will be demonstrations of older and newer
	apps. Most are native Linux, some are loosely associated with
	specific desktop environments, a couple will be run on
	Wine. We'll be examining the options different programs have
	and how they can complement each other."

On May 22 Carl Perry will give a demo of upgrading Drupal remotely.
Carl may have comments on other issues. Carl's remarks on any software
subject are always interesting.

Time: 7:30 pm to 9pm on the dates above.

where Map:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=625+E+10th+St,+Austin+TX

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Paul Elliott | 5 May 2008 02:42
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Installing Linux on low memory hardware.


Many distros do not install because of low memory on some
old computers. I have a laptop for which, sans swap file,
Ubuntu won't even boot and yet I have installed Open SuSE on it.

Never mind what the 'systems requirements' say. Many well
known distros like ubuntu, opensuse and fedora can be made
to install on low memory computers if you install a swap
file first.

How to do it. Plan your basic partitioning. Download
and burn the GParted Live CD. 
http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
This Software can also be made to boot from a usb stick.
http://gparted.sourceforge.net/liveusb.php

Boot, delete or move existing partitions and install
a /boot and swap partition in the low numbered cylinders.
(Old hardware is often subject to BIOS Cylinder limits.
http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Large-Disk-HOWTO-4.html
The /boot partition is used to insure that your kernel
image and initrd are in partitons that satisfy these
limits.
)

With the Swap file in place, you can almost install
your Distro as you would normally.

If the Distro installation procedure asks for permission
to use your swap file, say "yes".
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George Goodyear | 10 May 2008 19:21
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O.T.

Hi Carl- This the only way I know how to contact you. But there is a 
question I would like to ask. I hope you don't find this to intruding or 
personal. Please don't feel like you have to answer. Just tell me to 
mind my own business and I will drop the subject.

So here is the question: Will you ever attend another ALG meeting??? And 
if so when? If you care to explain that is would be cool, and if you 
want to respond to me personally that would be cool also. Sure do miss 
your input here at ALG.

Thanks for your timely response.

Carlos
Carl Perry | 11 May 2008 03:43
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Re: O.T.

Hey George -

  Don't worry - it's not intruding.  The short story is that I decided
to get fit, and got a trainer at the Gym.  In order to fit in training
time with my trainer and a friend of mine who has been training with me,
something had to give.  So, we wound up training on Tuesday and Thursday
nights - which meant I haven't been able to attend ALG meetings in a
while.  We're wrapping up our current training session in a few weeks,
and then taking a break for a while.  This is partially because my
friend is a bit burned out with our aggressive training schedule and the
heavy work load he has inherited by most of his department leaving his
company, and partially because I plan on going back to school in
September and won't be able to fit school, work, and training six days a
week together without cloning my self.

  Hrm, looks like I lied about the short part :)  Anyway, I'm on the
schedule to give a talk on updating Drupal on 22MAY2008 - so I will
definitely be at that meeting.  Beyond that, it mostly comes down to
scheduling - both mine and the group's.  The last few meetings I had
attended only had a few people at them and they were very short due to
lack of topic.  That kind of discouraged me from racing out of work on
Thursday nights and fighting traffic for short meetings with no topic.

  That said, if someone has a topic they would like me to discuss, drop
me a note and I'll be happy to consider it.  See you all then!

  -Carl

George Goodyear wrote:
> Hi Carl- This the only way I know how to contact you. But there is a 
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George Goodyear | 11 May 2008 06:54
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Re: O.T.

Cool well it is good to hear from you. And I am glad you will have time to share again. I'd like a class on IP tunneling and maybe some basic dump reading. Your one of the few guys that I can make heads or tails out of what you are saying. Don't feel bad about not attending. I haven't attended a meeting since Jan. I think???? You buy a house and all kinds of stuff comes with it. Hey, you would know how to hack a Ford SYNC radio system would you??? Oh well, it still good to hear from you again. I'll make sure to attend that meeting.

Thanks for your prompt response.:o)

Carlos

Carl Perry wrote:
Hey George - Don't worry - it's not intruding. The short story is that I decided to get fit, and got a trainer at the Gym. In order to fit in training time with my trainer and a friend of mine who has been training with me, something had to give. So, we wound up training on Tuesday and Thursday nights - which meant I haven't been able to attend ALG meetings in a while. We're wrapping up our current training session in a few weeks, and then taking a break for a while. This is partially because my friend is a bit burned out with our aggressive training schedule and the heavy work load he has inherited by most of his department leaving his company, and partially because I plan on going back to school in September and won't be able to fit school, work, and training six days a week together without cloning my self. Hrm, looks like I lied about the short part :) Anyway, I'm on the schedule to give a talk on updating Drupal on 22MAY2008 - so I will definitely be at that meeting. Beyond that, it mostly comes down to scheduling - both mine and the group's. The last few meetings I had attended only had a few people at them and they were very short due to lack of topic. That kind of discouraged me from racing out of work on Thursday nights and fighting traffic for short meetings with no topic. That said, if someone has a topic they would like me to discuss, drop me a note and I'll be happy to consider it. See you all then! -Carl George Goodyear wrote:
Hi Carl- This the only way I know how to contact you. But there is a question I would like to ask. I hope you don't find this to intruding or personal. Please don't feel like you have to answer. Just tell me to mind my own business and I will drop the subject. So here is the question: Will you ever attend another ALG meeting??? And if so when? If you care to explain that is would be cool, and if you want to respond to me personally that would be cool also. Sure do miss your input here at ALG. Thanks for your timely response. Carlos _______________________________________________ ALG-technical mailing list http://austinlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/alg-technical
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Cool well it is good to hear from you. And I am glad you will have time
to share again. I'd like a class on IP tunneling and maybe some basic
dump reading. Your one of the few guys that I can make heads or tails
out of what you are saying. Don't feel bad about not attending. I
haven't attended a meeting since Jan. I think???? You buy a house and
all kinds of stuff comes with it. Hey, you would know how to hack a
Ford SYNC radio system would you??? Oh well, it still good to hear from
you again. I'll make sure to attend that meeting.<br><br>
Thanks for your prompt response.:o)<br><br>
Carlos<br><br>
Carl Perry wrote:
<blockquote cite="mid48264F40.7040006@..." type="cite">
  Hey George -

  Don't worry - it's not intruding.  The short story is that I decided
to get fit, and got a trainer at the Gym.  In order to fit in training
time with my trainer and a friend of mine who has been training with me,
something had to give.  So, we wound up training on Tuesday and Thursday
nights - which meant I haven't been able to attend ALG meetings in a
while.  We're wrapping up our current training session in a few weeks,
and then taking a break for a while.  This is partially because my
friend is a bit burned out with our aggressive training schedule and the
heavy work load he has inherited by most of his department leaving his
company, and partially because I plan on going back to school in
September and won't be able to fit school, work, and training six days a
week together without cloning my self.

  Hrm, looks like I lied about the short part :)  Anyway, I'm on the
schedule to give a talk on updating Drupal on 22MAY2008 - so I will
definitely be at that meeting.  Beyond that, it mostly comes down to
scheduling - both mine and the group's.  The last few meetings I had
attended only had a few people at them and they were very short due to
lack of topic.  That kind of discouraged me from racing out of work on
Thursday nights and fighting traffic for short meetings with no topic.

  That said, if someone has a topic they would like me to discuss, drop
me a note and I'll be happy to consider it.  See you all then!

  -Carl

George Goodyear wrote:

  <blockquote type="cite">
    Hi Carl- This the only way I know how to contact you. But there is a 
question I would like to ask. I hope you don't find this to intruding or 
personal. Please don't feel like you have to answer. Just tell me to 
mind my own business and I will drop the subject.

So here is the question: Will you ever attend another ALG meeting??? And 
if so when? If you care to explain that is would be cool, and if you 
want to respond to me personally that would be cool also. Sure do miss 
your input here at ALG.

Thanks for your timely response.

Carlos
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Robert Parkhurst | 11 May 2008 19:21
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UFS2 question

I recently put FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE on my Sparc box and went looking for information on it's filesystem (UFS2).  The wiki says it's max filesystem size is 2^73 bytes to which Google says (when you query with "what is 2^73 bytes"): 

(2^73) bytes = 8 zettabytes


is that correct?  That seems pretty big if so!



Robert

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<p>I recently put FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE on my Sparc box and went looking for information on it's filesystem (UFS2).&nbsp; The wiki says it's max filesystem size is 2^73 bytes to which Google says (when you query with "what is 2^73 bytes"):&nbsp; <br></p>
<h2 class="r">(2^73) bytes = 8 zettabytes</h2>
<br>is that correct?&nbsp; That seems pretty big if so!<br><br><br><br>Robert<br><br>
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Carl Perry | 11 May 2008 19:45
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Re: UFS2 question

I don't think it's correct.  My understanding was that ZFS was the only
commercially available UNIX filesystem capable of handling a zettabyte.

The UFS2 FAQ I found says it's using 64bit pointers, which implies a few
petabytes of storage at least, but not zettabytes.
http://sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net/jeroen/faq.html#WHATS-UFS2

I could, however, be wrong.

Robert Parkhurst wrote:
> I recently put FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE on my Sparc box and went looking for
> information on it's filesystem (UFS2).  The wiki says it's max
> filesystem size is 2^73 bytes to which Google says (when you query with
> "what is 2^73 bytes"): 
> 
> 
>     **(2^73) bytes = 8 zettabytes**
> 
> 
> is that correct?  That seems pretty big if so!

I don't think it's correct.  My understanding was that ZFS was the only
commercially available UNIX filesystem capable of handling a zettabyte.

The UFS2 FAQ I found says it's using 64bit pointers, which implies a few
petabytes of storage at least, but not zettabytes.
http://sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net/jeroen/faq.html#WHATS-UFS2

I could, however, be wrong.

Robert Parkhurst wrote:
> I recently put FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE on my Sparc box and went looking for
> information on it's filesystem (UFS2).  The wiki says it's max
> filesystem size is 2^73 bytes to which Google says (when you query with
> "what is 2^73 bytes"): 
> 
> 
>     **(2^73) bytes = 8 zettabytes**
> 
> 
> is that correct?  That seems pretty big if so!

Robert Parkhurst | 11 May 2008 23:09
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Re: UFS2 question

Okay...  64bit sounds better.  All I could find was the wiki on UFS2 which said that it supported 2^73 bytes.  Thanks for the info and link!


Robert



On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 12:45 PM, Carl Perry <caperry-Dn0Q76bcrHOsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org> wrote:
I don't think it's correct.  My understanding was that ZFS was the only
commercially available UNIX filesystem capable of handling a zettabyte.

The UFS2 FAQ I found says it's using 64bit pointers, which implies a few
petabytes of storage at least, but not zettabytes.
http://sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net/jeroen/faq.html#WHATS-UFS2

I could, however, be wrong.

Robert Parkhurst wrote:
> I recently put FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE on my Sparc box and went looking for
> information on it's filesystem (UFS2).  The wiki says it's max
> filesystem size is 2^73 bytes to which Google says (when you query with
> "what is 2^73 bytes"):
>
>
>     **(2^73) bytes = 8 zettabytes**
>
>
> is that correct?  That seems pretty big if so!



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<p>Okay...&nbsp; 64bit sounds better.&nbsp; All I could find was the wiki on UFS2 which said that it supported 2^73 bytes.&nbsp; Thanks for the info and link!<br><br><br>Robert<br><br><br><br></p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 12:45 PM, Carl Perry &lt;<a href="mailto:caperry@...">caperry@...</a>&gt; wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote">I don't think it's correct. &nbsp;My understanding was that ZFS was the only<br>
commercially available UNIX filesystem capable of handling a zettabyte.<br><br>
The UFS2 FAQ I found says it's using 64bit pointers, which implies a few<br>
petabytes of storage at least, but not zettabytes.<br><a href="http://sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net/jeroen/faq.html#WHATS-UFS2" target="_blank">http://sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net/jeroen/faq.html#WHATS-UFS2</a><br><br>
I could, however, be wrong.<br><div>
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Robert Parkhurst wrote:<br>
&gt; I recently put FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE on my Sparc box and went looking for<br>
&gt; information on it's filesystem (UFS2). &nbsp;The wiki says it's max<br>
&gt; filesystem size is 2^73 bytes to which Google says (when you query with<br>
&gt; "what is 2^73 bytes"):<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; **(2^73) bytes = 8 zettabytes**≤br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; is that correct? &nbsp;That seems pretty big if so!<br><br><br>
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Paul Elliott | 25 May 2008 22:41
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Damn Small Linux (DSL)

Denis Oxford will be giving a presentation of Damn Small Linux (DSL)
version 4.3 running in a virtualized environment. DSL's small size
makes it appropriate for business card sized CDs and other miniature
portable media.  Copies of DSL will be provided for those that want it
at the June 12th presentation.

The presentation will occur at the regular ALG meeting at:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&amp;hl=en&amp;q=625+E+10th+St,+Austin+TX

On June 12.

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pelliott@...                    PMB 181, 11900 Metric Blvd Suite J
http://www.io.com/~pelliott/pme/   Austin TX 78758-3117
Denis Oxford will be giving a presentation of Damn Small Linux (DSL)
version 4.3 running in a virtualized environment. DSL's small size
makes it appropriate for business card sized CDs and other miniature
portable media.  Copies of DSL will be provided for those that want it
at the June 12th presentation.

The presentation will occur at the regular ALG meeting at:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&amp;hl=en&amp;q=625+E+10th+St,+Austin+TX

On June 12.

--

-- 
Paul Elliott                       1(512)837-1096
pelliott@...                    PMB 181, 11900 Metric Blvd Suite J
http://www.io.com/~pelliott/pme/   Austin TX 78758-3117
Jim Parkhurst | 28 May 2008 16:42
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Challenge: Dumping an Unfinalized DVD

I have a camera[1] that records images and video to miniDVD. A couple of weeks ago I was out taking pictures
and some video clips. Somewhere along the time line I tried to finalize the mDVD to download the
information. Unfortunately the camera won't finalize the media. I can (have) view all pictures and
videos on the media.

Is there a tool/utility to read the mDVD and dump it to .ISO so that I can rebuild the information?

Thanks for your help!

-Jim

[1] http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=ModelInfoAct&fcategoryid=171&modelid=14789


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