Donn Washburn | 4 Mar 00:31 2007
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33 1/3RPM to wav

Hey Group;

I am about to embark on a job helping someone to get a 33 1/3 RPM old 
audio record (as if you could find a new one.

Question number one is - I don't recall a true line level stereo input 
on PC sound card.  I do recall a AUX/CD stereo connector on the card or 
a 1/8" stereo Line IN (at least I would like to see one) that can accept 
a line from a HIFI type amp stereo line out.

 From there I would have a linux mixer (qamix, kmix or the like) play 
back over the speakers that signal.  From a mixer I could create a 
audiofile.wav.

Question #2  Anyone have knowledge from that point?

I would ultimately like to burn the audiofile.wav to a CD

Even better capture the music on www.sky.fm/smoothjazz which amarok does 
so well.

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Les Elliott | 4 Mar 00:53 2007
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Re: 33 1/3RPM to wav


On Sat, 2007-03-03 at 17:31 -0600, Donn Washburn wrote:
> Hey Group;
> 
> I am about to embark on a job helping someone to get a 33 1/3 RPM old 
> audio record (as if you could find a new one.
> 
> Question number one is - I don't recall a true line level stereo input 
> on PC sound card.  I do recall a AUX/CD stereo connector on the card or 
> a 1/8" stereo Line IN (at least I would like to see one) that can accept 
> a line from a HIFI type amp stereo line out.
> 
>  From there I would have a linux mixer (qamix, kmix or the like) play 
> back over the speakers that signal.  From a mixer I could create a 
> audiofile.wav.
> 
> Question #2  Anyone have knowledge from that point?
> 
> I would ultimately like to burn the audiofile.wav to a CD
> 
> Even better capture the music on www.sky.fm/smoothjazz which amarok does 
> so well.
I've had great luck using Audacity for converting each side to one
large .wav, then removing clicks, snaps, etc., then splitting each track
into individual wave files.
Les

On Sat, 2007-03-03 at 17:31 -0600, Donn Washburn wrote:
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Alex Ponebshek | 4 Mar 07:22 2007
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Re: 33 1/3RPM to wav

On 3/3/07, Les Elliott <lelliott5-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:



On Sat, 2007-03-03 at 17:31 -0600, Donn Washburn wrote:
> Hey Group;
>
> I am about to embark on a job helping someone to get a 33 1/3 RPM old
> audio record (as if you could find a new one.
>
> Question number one is - I don't recall a true line level stereo input
> on PC sound card.  I do recall a AUX/CD stereo connector on the card or
> a 1/8" stereo Line IN (at least I would like to see one) that can accept
> a line from a HIFI type amp stereo line out.
>
>  From there I would have a linux mixer (qamix, kmix or the like) play
> back over the speakers that signal.  From a mixer I could create a
> audiofile.wav.
>
> Question #2  Anyone have knowledge from that point?
>
> I would ultimately like to burn the audiofile.wav to a CD
>
> Even better capture the music on www.sky.fm/smoothjazz which amarok does
> so well.
I've had great luck using Audacity for converting each side to one
large .wav, then removing clicks, snaps, etc., then splitting each track
into individual wave files.
Les

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I was just about to suggest Audacity also.  It's great.  I used it to rip my dad's old LPs. 
<div>
<p>On 3/3/07, Les Elliott &lt;<a href="mailto:lelliott5@...">lelliott5@...</a>&gt; wrote:</p>
<div>
<span class="gmail_quote"></span><blockquote class="gmail_quote">
<br><br>On Sat, 2007-03-03 at 17:31 -0600, Donn Washburn wrote:<br>&gt; Hey Group;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; I am about to embark on a job helping someone to get a 33 1/3 RPM old<br>&gt; audio record (as if you could find a new one.
<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Question number one is - I don't recall a true line level stereo input<br>&gt; on PC sound card.&nbsp;&nbsp;I do recall a AUX/CD stereo connector on the card or<br>&gt; a 1/8" stereo Line IN (at least I would like to see one) that can accept
<br>&gt; a line from a HIFI type amp stereo line out.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;From there I would have a linux mixer (qamix, kmix or the like) play<br>&gt; back over the speakers that signal.&nbsp;&nbsp;From a mixer I could create a<br>&gt; 
audiofile.wav.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Question #2&nbsp;&nbsp;Anyone have knowledge from that point?<br>&gt;<br>&gt; I would ultimately like to burn the audiofile.wav to a CD<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Even better capture the music on <a href="http://www.sky.fm/smoothjazz">
www.sky.fm/smoothjazz</a> which amarok does<br>&gt; so well.<br>I've had great luck using Audacity for converting each side to one<br>large .wav, then removing clicks, snaps, etc., then splitting each track<br>into individual wave files.
<br>Les<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>ALG-technical mailing list <a href="http://austinlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/alg-technical">http://austinlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/alg-technical
</a><br><br><br>
</blockquote>
</div>I was just about to suggest Audacity also.&nbsp; It's great.&nbsp; I used it to rip my dad's old LPs.&nbsp; <br>
</div>
Bob Pendleton | 5 Mar 21:47 2007

Re: 33 1/3RPM to wav

On Sun, 2007-03-04 at 00:22 -0600, Alex Ponebshek wrote:
> On 3/3/07, Les Elliott <lelliott5@...> wrote:
>         
>         
>         On Sat, 2007-03-03 at 17:31 -0600, Donn Washburn wrote:
>         > Hey Group;
>         >
>         > I am about to embark on a job helping someone to get a 33
>         1/3 RPM old
>         > audio record (as if you could find a new one. 
>         >
>         > Question number one is - I don't recall a true line level
>         stereo input
>         > on PC sound card.  I do recall a AUX/CD stereo connector on
>         the card or
>         > a 1/8" stereo Line IN (at least I would like to see one)
>         that can accept 
>         > a line from a HIFI type amp stereo line out.
>         >
>         >  From there I would have a linux mixer (qamix, kmix or the
>         like) play
>         > back over the speakers that signal.  From a mixer I could
>         create a
>         > audiofile.wav.
>         >
>         > Question #2  Anyone have knowledge from that point?
>         >
>         > I would ultimately like to burn the audiofile.wav to a CD
>         >
>         > Even better capture the music on www.sky.fm/smoothjazz which
>         amarok does
>         > so well.
>         I've had great luck using Audacity for converting each side to
>         one
>         large .wav, then removing clicks, snaps, etc., then splitting
>         each track
>         into individual wave files. 
>         Les
>         
>         _______________________________________________
>         ALG-technical mailing list
>         http://austinlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/alg-technical
>         
>         
> I was just about to suggest Audacity also.  It's great.  I used it to
> rip my dad's old LPs.  

More details please! I have a create full of old LPs dating back to the
middle 60s that I would love to have in digital format. 

		Bob Pendleton

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Alex Ponebshek | 6 Mar 01:46 2007
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Re: 33 1/3RPM to wav

On 3/5/07, Bob Pendleton <bob-UqrVZhwyDq6aMJb+Lgu22Q@public.gmane.org> wrote:

On Sun, 2007-03-04 at 00:22 -0600, Alex Ponebshek wrote:
> On 3/3/07, Les Elliott <lelliott5-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org > wrote:
>
>
>         On Sat, 2007-03-03 at 17:31 -0600, Donn Washburn wrote:
>         > Hey Group;
>         >
>         > I am about to embark on a job helping someone to get a 33
>         1/3 RPM old
>         > audio record (as if you could find a new one.
>         >
>         > Question number one is - I don't recall a true line level
>         stereo input
>         > on PC sound card.  I do recall a AUX/CD stereo connector on
>         the card or
>         > a 1/8" stereo Line IN (at least I would like to see one)
>         that can accept
>         > a line from a HIFI type amp stereo line out.
>         >
>         >  From there I would have a linux mixer (qamix, kmix or the
>         like) play
>         > back over the speakers that signal.  From a mixer I could
>         create a
>         > audiofile.wav.
>         >
>         > Question #2  Anyone have knowledge from that point?
>         >
>         > I would ultimately like to burn the audiofile.wav to a CD
>         >
>         > Even better capture the music on www.sky.fm/smoothjazz which
>         amarok does
>         > so well.
>         I've had great luck using Audacity for converting each side to
>         one
>         large .wav, then removing clicks, snaps, etc., then splitting
>         each track
>         into individual wave files.
>         Les
>
>         _______________________________________________
>         ALG-technical mailing list
>         http://austinlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/alg-technical
>
>
> I was just about to suggest Audacity also.  It's great.  I used it to
> rip my dad's old LPs.

More details please! I have a create full of old LPs dating back to the
middle 60s that I would love to have in digital format.

                Bob Pendleton


> _______________________________________________
> ALG-technical mailing list http://austinlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/alg-technical
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I just take a double-male audio cable and wired one end to the turntable's output (I use the "headphones" jack, but if your has "line out", use that instead) and the other end to my computer's line in.  Then I run Audacity, set the source to line in, hit record, and started the record.  Then I leave the room until the side completed so I won't make it skip. 

When recording finishes, I check for skips or repeats and rerecord if there is a problem.  If there are pops, I use Audacity's "pop removal" function.  It's a bit difficult to get it to work, but it works.  I trim before the first song, and then delete everything after it, edit the ID3 tags and export an mp3.  Then I undo to restore the rest of the audio, delete the first song, and repeat with the next song until there are none left.  Then I flip the record over and do the other side. 

I'll warn you, it's tedious, but it's worth it, even if for bragging rights alone (I can brag about having music on my mp3 player not available on CD or mp3). 

Some extra tips:
-If you use a headphone jack instead of line out, you'll probably want to adjust the volume on your record player as high as you can without having clipping (when amplitude goes above maximum). 
-If you prefer speed over quality, you can play the records at higher speed on the player and then downscale the speed in Audacity.  This usually works and sounds fine, except it probably reduces quality a bit.
-If you prefer quality over speed, you can play the records at a lower speed and then speed them up in Audacity.  This might increase the quality, as well as reduce the risk of popping.  In either case, Audacity has preprogrammed settings for record speeds in the "change speed" control. 
-Don't dance next to the record player while ripping. 
-Don't save the uncompressed Audacity project unless you have plenty of hard drive space to spare. 
-Set the export quality in the settings if you want to save higher or lower quality than default. 

Audacity is at http://audacity.sourceforge.net/

Also, I found (but didn't bother to read) a how-to for this on WikiHow: http://www.wikihow.com/Change-Your-Records-Into-CDs
It might help. 
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<p>On 3/5/07, Bob Pendleton &lt;<a href="mailto:bob@..." target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">bob@...</a>&gt; wrote:</p>
<div>
<span class="gmail_quote">
</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote">
On Sun, 2007-03-04 at 00:22 -0600, Alex Ponebshek wrote:<br>&gt; On 3/3/07, Les Elliott &lt;<a href="mailto:lelliott5@..." target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">lelliott5@...</a>
&gt; wrote:<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; On Sat, 2007-03-03 at 17:31 -0600, Donn Washburn wrote:
<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt; Hey Group;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt; I am about to embark on a job helping someone to get a 33<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1/3 RPM old<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt; audio record (as if you could find a new one.
<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt; Question number one is - I don't recall a true line level<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; stereo input<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt; on PC sound card.&nbsp;&nbsp;I do recall a AUX/CD stereo connector on<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; the card or
<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt; a 1/8" stereo Line IN (at least I would like to see one)<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; that can accept<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt; a line from a HIFI type amp stereo line out.<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;From there I would have a linux mixer (qamix, kmix or the
<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; like) play<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt; back over the speakers that signal.&nbsp;&nbsp;From a mixer I could<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; create a<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt; audiofile.wav.<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt; Question #2&nbsp;&nbsp;Anyone have knowledge from that point?
<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt; I would ultimately like to burn the audiofile.wav to a CD<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt; Even better capture the music on <a href="http://www.sky.fm/smoothjazz" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
www.sky.fm/smoothjazz
</a> which<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; amarok does<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt; so well.<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I've had great luck using Audacity for converting each side to<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; one<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; large .wav, then removing clicks, snaps, etc., then splitting
<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; each track<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; into individual wave files.<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Les<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; _______________________________________________<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ALG-technical mailing list<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
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<br>&gt; I was just about to suggest Audacity also.&nbsp;&nbsp;It's great.&nbsp;&nbsp;I used it to
<br>&gt; rip my dad's old LPs.<br><br>More details please! I have a create full of old LPs dating back to the<br>middle 60s that I would love to have in digital format.<br><br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Bob Pendleton<br><br><br>

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<br>I just take a double-male audio cable and wired one end to the turntable's
output (I use the "headphones" jack, but if your has "line out", use that
instead) and the other end to my computer's line in.&nbsp; Then I run Audacity, set the source to line in, hit record, and started the
record.&nbsp; Then I leave the room until the side completed so I won't
make it skip.&nbsp; <br><br>When recording finishes, I check for skips or repeats and rerecord if there is a problem.&nbsp; If there are pops, I use Audacity's "pop removal" function.&nbsp; It's a bit difficult to get it to work, but it works.&nbsp; I trim before the first song, and then delete everything after it, edit the ID3 tags and export an mp3.&nbsp; Then I undo to restore the rest of the audio, delete the first song, and repeat with the next song until there are none left.&nbsp; Then I flip the record over and do the other side.&nbsp; 
<br><br>I'll warn you, it's tedious, but it's worth it, even if for bragging rights alone (I can brag about having music on my mp3 player not available on CD or mp3).&nbsp; <br><br>Some extra tips:<br>-If you use a headphone jack instead of line out, you'll probably want to adjust the volume on your record player as high as you can without having clipping (when amplitude goes above maximum).&nbsp; 
<br>-If you prefer speed over quality, you can play the records at higher speed on the player and then downscale the speed in Audacity.&nbsp; This usually works and sounds fine, except it probably reduces quality a bit.<br>-If you prefer quality over speed, you can play the records at a lower speed and then speed them up in Audacity.&nbsp; This might increase the quality, as well as reduce the risk of popping.&nbsp; In either case, Audacity has preprogrammed settings for record speeds in the "change speed" control.&nbsp; 
<br>-Don't dance next to the record player while ripping.&nbsp; <br>-Don't save the uncompressed Audacity project unless you have plenty of hard drive space to spare.&nbsp; <br>-Set the export quality in the settings if you want to save higher or lower quality than default.&nbsp; 
<br><br>
Audacity is at <a href="http://audacity.sourceforge.net/">http://audacity.sourceforge.net/</a><br><br>Also, I found (but didn't bother to read) a how-to for this on WikiHow: <a href="http://www.wikihow.com/Change-Your-Records-Into-CDs">
http://www.wikihow.com/Change-Your-Records-Into-CDs</a><br>It might help.&nbsp; <br>
</div>
Donn Washburn | 6 Mar 03:07 2007
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Re: 33 1/3RPM to wav

Alex Ponebshek wrote:
> On 3/5/07, *Bob Pendleton* <bob@... 
> <mailto:bob@...>> wrote:
> 
>     On Sun, 2007-03-04 at 00:22 -0600, Alex Ponebshek wrote:
>      > On 3/3/07, Les Elliott <lelliott5@...
>     <mailto:lelliott5@...> > wrote:
>      >
>      >
>      >         On Sat, 2007-03-03 at 17:31 -0600, Donn Washburn wrote:
>      >         > Hey Group;
>      >         >
>      >         > I am about to embark on a job helping someone to get a 33
>      >         1/3 RPM old
>      >         > audio record (as if you could find a new one.
>      >         >
>      >         > Question number one is - I don't recall a true line level
>      >         stereo input
>      >         > on PC sound card.  I do recall a AUX/CD stereo connector on
>      >         the card or
>      >         > a 1/8" stereo Line IN (at least I would like to see one)
>      >         that can accept
>      >         > a line from a HIFI type amp stereo line out.
>      >         >
>      >         >  From there I would have a linux mixer (qamix, kmix or the
>      >         like) play
>      >         > back over the speakers that signal.  From a mixer I could
>      >         create a
>      >         > audiofile.wav.
>      >         >
>      >         > Question #2  Anyone have knowledge from that point?
>      >         >
>      >         > I would ultimately like to burn the audiofile.wav to a CD
>      >         >
>      >         > Even better capture the music on www.sky.fm/smoothjazz
>     <http://www.sky.fm/smoothjazz> which
>      >         amarok does
>      >         > so well.
>      >         I've had great luck using Audacity for converting each
>     side to
>      >         one
>      >         large .wav, then removing clicks, snaps, etc., then
>     splitting
>      >         each track
>      >         into individual wave files.
>      >         Les
>      >
>      >         _______________________________________________
>      >         ALG-technical mailing list
>      >         http://austinlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/alg-technical
>      >
>      >
>      > I was just about to suggest Audacity also.  It's great.  I used
>     it to
>      > rip my dad's old LPs.
> 
>     More details please! I have a create full of old LPs dating back to the
>     middle 60s that I would love to have in digital format.
> 
>                     Bob Pendleton
> 
> 
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> 
> I just take a double-male audio cable and wired one end to the 
> turntable's output (I use the "headphones" jack, but if your has "line 
> out", use that instead) and the other end to my computer's line in.  
> Then I run Audacity, set the source to line in, hit record, and started 
> the record.  Then I leave the room until the side completed so I won't 
> make it skip. 
> 
> When recording finishes, I check for skips or repeats and rerecord if 
> there is a problem.  If there are pops, I use Audacity's "pop removal" 
> function.  It's a bit difficult to get it to work, but it works.  I trim 
> before the first song, and then delete everything after it, edit the ID3 
> tags and export an mp3.  Then I undo to restore the rest of the audio, 
> delete the first song, and repeat with the next song until there are 
> none left.  Then I flip the record over and do the other side. 
> 
> I'll warn you, it's tedious, but it's worth it, even if for bragging 
> rights alone (I can brag about having music on my mp3 player not 
> available on CD or mp3). 
> 
> Some extra tips:
> -If you use a headphone jack instead of line out, you'll probably want 
> to adjust the volume on your record player as high as you can without 
> having clipping (when amplitude goes above maximum). 
> -If you prefer speed over quality, you can play the records at higher 
> speed on the player and then downscale the speed in Audacity.  This 
> usually works and sounds fine, except it probably reduces quality a bit.
> -If you prefer quality over speed, you can play the records at a lower 
> speed and then speed them up in Audacity.  This might increase the 
> quality, as well as reduce the risk of popping.  In either case, 
> Audacity has preprogrammed settings for record speeds in the "change 
> speed" control. 
> -Don't dance next to the record player while ripping. 
> -Don't save the uncompressed Audacity project unless you have plenty of 
> hard drive space to spare. 
> -Set the export quality in the settings if you want to save higher or 
> lower quality than default. 
> 
> Audacity is at http://audacity.sourceforge.net/
> 
> Also, I found (but didn't bother to read) a how-to for this on WikiHow: 
> http://www.wikihow.com/Change-Your-Records-Into-CDs
> It might help. 
> 
Well I final got it to work.  It is a permission problem because root 
works and a user can't.  Also it is not the /dev/dsp.
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Bob Pendleton | 6 Mar 04:50 2007

Re: 33 1/3RPM to wav

On Mon, 2007-03-05 at 18:46 -0600, Alex Ponebshek wrote:
> On 3/5/07, Bob Pendleton <bob@...> wrote:
>         On Sun, 2007-03-04 at 00:22 -0600, Alex Ponebshek wrote:
>         > On 3/3/07, Les Elliott <lelliott5@... > wrote:
>         >
>         >
>         >         On Sat, 2007-03-03 at 17:31 -0600, Donn Washburn
>         wrote: 
>         >         > Hey Group;
>         >         >
>         >         > I am about to embark on a job helping someone to
>         get a 33
>         >         1/3 RPM old
>         >         > audio record (as if you could find a new one. 
>         >         >
>         >         > Question number one is - I don't recall a true
>         line level
>         >         stereo input
>         >         > on PC sound card.  I do recall a AUX/CD stereo
>         connector on
>         >         the card or 
>         >         > a 1/8" stereo Line IN (at least I would like to
>         see one)
>         >         that can accept
>         >         > a line from a HIFI type amp stereo line out.
>         >         >
>         >         >  From there I would have a linux mixer (qamix,
>         kmix or the 
>         >         like) play
>         >         > back over the speakers that signal.  From a mixer
>         I could
>         >         create a
>         >         > audiofile.wav.
>         >         >
>         >         > Question #2  Anyone have knowledge from that
>         point? 
>         >         >
>         >         > I would ultimately like to burn the audiofile.wav
>         to a CD
>         >         >
>         >         > Even better capture the music on
>         www.sky.fm/smoothjazz which
>         >         amarok does
>         >         > so well.
>         >         I've had great luck using Audacity for converting
>         each side to
>         >         one
>         >         large .wav, then removing clicks, snaps, etc., then
>         splitting 
>         >         each track
>         >         into individual wave files.
>         >         Les
>         >
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>         >
>         > 
>         > I was just about to suggest Audacity also.  It's great.  I
>         used it to 
>         > rip my dad's old LPs.
>         
>         More details please! I have a create full of old LPs dating
>         back to the
>         middle 60s that I would love to have in digital format.
>         
>                         Bob Pendleton
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> I just take a double-male audio cable and wired one end to the
> turntable's output (I use the "headphones" jack, but if your has "line
> out", use that instead) and the other end to my computer's line in.
> Then I run Audacity, set the source to line in, hit record, and
> started the record.  Then I leave the room until the side completed so
> I won't make it skip.  
> 
> When recording finishes, I check for skips or repeats and rerecord if
> there is a problem.  If there are pops, I use Audacity's "pop removal"
> function.  It's a bit difficult to get it to work, but it works.  I
> trim before the first song, and then delete everything after it, edit
> the ID3 tags and export an mp3.  Then I undo to restore the rest of
> the audio, delete the first song, and repeat with the next song until
> there are none left.  Then I flip the record over and do the other
> side.  
> 
> I'll warn you, it's tedious, but it's worth it, even if for bragging
> rights alone (I can brag about having music on my mp3 player not
> available on CD or mp3).  
> 
> Some extra tips:
> -If you use a headphone jack instead of line out, you'll probably want
> to adjust the volume on your record player as high as you can without
> having clipping (when amplitude goes above maximum).  
> -If you prefer speed over quality, you can play the records at higher
> speed on the player and then downscale the speed in Audacity.  This
> usually works and sounds fine, except it probably reduces quality a
> bit.
> -If you prefer quality over speed, you can play the records at a lower
> speed and then speed them up in Audacity.  This might increase the
> quality, as well as reduce the risk of popping.  In either case,
> Audacity has preprogrammed settings for record speeds in the "change
> speed" control.  
> -Don't dance next to the record player while ripping.  
> -Don't save the uncompressed Audacity project unless you have plenty
> of hard drive space to spare.  
> -Set the export quality in the settings if you want to save higher or
> lower quality than default.  
> 
> Audacity is at http://audacity.sourceforge.net/
> 
> Also, I found (but didn't bother to read) a how-to for this on
> WikiHow: http://www.wikihow.com/Change-Your-Records-Into-CDs
> It might help.  
> _______________________________________________
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Thank you! Now all I need is a turn table :-)

		Bob Pendleton

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Jim Westbrook | 6 Mar 17:49 2007
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Bob Pendleton wrote:

>More details please! I have a create full of old LPs dating back to the
>middle 60s that I would love to have in digital format. 
>
>  
>
Bob, you might also want to check out gramofile for the capture/edit 
software.

JimW

Thomas Cameron (Red Hat | 6 Mar 18:05 2007
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Bob Pendleton wrote:

> Thank you! Now all I need is a turn table :-)

"Turn table?"  What's that?  Oh, wait, I think I remember my mom had one 
when I was a little kid, but I don't think it played CDs.

/me ducks and runs.
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DonDashGuitar | 6 Mar 18:40 2007
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 > Thank you! Now all I need is a turn table :-)
|
| "Turn table?"  What's that?  Oh, wait, I think I remember my mom had one
| when I was a little kid, but I don't think it played CDs.
|

You can still buy a fairly nice turntable without a large investment.  DJs
have kept the things from "fading away".  They're used in broadcasting to
play music that's not available in any other format and live DJs use them
for "scratch" effects, you know, where they manually run the turntable
forwards and backwards very quickly.  The ones you find these days are
manual but that's actually a good thing.  manual turntables are far less
complicated than the automatic variety and normally superior in quality.
Here's a new one for a little over a hundred bucks.
http://snipurl.com/1c7is
I'm sure there are numerous places where you can buy a good one in Austin
and you might be able to pick up a good used one at a Goodwill or Salvation
Army store.

If you have a large number of LPs you wish to convert to digital format your
best bet would be to find software that's designed for recovering music from
LPs (I'm sure there are many such), a good quality turntable and, because
levels are likely to vary from one LP to another, or even one cut to another
on the same LP, you might consider acquiring an inexpensive mixer, like this
one:  http://www.parts-express.com/pe/pshowdetl.cfm?Partnumber=248-574

Happy digitizing.

Don Crowder


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