Re: 33 1/3RPM to wav
On 3/5/07, Bob Pendleton <bob-UqrVZhwyDq6aMJb+Lgu22Q@public.gmane.org> wrote:
On Sun, 2007-03-04 at 00:22 -0600, Alex Ponebshek wrote:
> On 3/3/07, Les Elliott <lelliott5-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
> wrote:
>
>
> On Sat, 2007-03-03 at 17:31 -0600, Donn Washburn wrote:
> > Hey Group;
> >
> > I am about to embark on a job helping someone to get a 33
> 1/3 RPM old
> > audio record (as if you could find a new one.
> >
> > Question number one is - I don't recall a true line level
> stereo input
> > on PC sound card. I do recall a AUX/CD stereo connector on
> the card or
> > a 1/8" stereo Line IN (at least I would like to see one)
> that can accept
> > a line from a HIFI type amp stereo line out.
> >
> > From there I would have a linux mixer (qamix, kmix or the
> like) play
> > back over the speakers that signal. From a mixer I could
> create a
> > audiofile.wav.
> >
> > Question #2 Anyone have knowledge from that point?
> >
> > I would ultimately like to burn the audiofile.wav to a CD
> >
> > Even better capture the music on
www.sky.fm/smoothjazz
which
> amarok does
> > so well.
> I've had great luck using Audacity for converting each side to
> one
> large .wav, then removing clicks, snaps, etc., then splitting
> each track
> into individual wave files.
> Les
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> I was just about to suggest Audacity also. It's great. I used it to
> rip my dad's old LPs.
More details please! I have a create full of old LPs dating back to the
middle 60s that I would love to have in digital format.
Bob Pendleton
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I just take a double-male audio cable and wired one end to the turntable's
output (I use the "headphones" jack, but if your has "line out", use that
instead) and the other end to my computer's line in. Then I run Audacity, set the source to line in, hit record, and started the
record. Then I leave the room until the side completed so I won't
make it skip.
When recording finishes, I check for skips or repeats and rerecord if there is a problem. If there are pops, I use Audacity's "pop removal" function. It's a bit difficult to get it to work, but it works. I trim before the first song, and then delete everything after it, edit the ID3 tags and export an mp3. Then I undo to restore the rest of the audio, delete the first song, and repeat with the next song until there are none left. Then I flip the record over and do the other side.
I'll warn you, it's tedious, but it's worth it, even if for bragging rights alone (I can brag about having music on my mp3 player not available on CD or mp3).
Some extra tips:
-If you use a headphone jack instead of line out, you'll probably want to adjust the volume on your record player as high as you can without having clipping (when amplitude goes above maximum).
-If you prefer speed over quality, you can play the records at higher speed on the player and then downscale the speed in Audacity. This usually works and sounds fine, except it probably reduces quality a bit.
-If you prefer quality over speed, you can play the records at a lower speed and then speed them up in Audacity. This might increase the quality, as well as reduce the risk of popping. In either case, Audacity has preprogrammed settings for record speeds in the "change speed" control.
-Don't dance next to the record player while ripping.
-Don't save the uncompressed Audacity project unless you have plenty of hard drive space to spare.
-Set the export quality in the settings if you want to save higher or lower quality than default.
Audacity is at
http://audacity.sourceforge.net/Also, I found (but didn't bother to read) a how-to for this on WikiHow:
http://www.wikihow.com/Change-Your-Records-Into-CDsIt might help.
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<p>On 3/5/07, Bob Pendleton <<a href="mailto:bob@..." target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">bob@...</a>> wrote:</p>
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On Sun, 2007-03-04 at 00:22 -0600, Alex Ponebshek wrote:<br>> On 3/3/07, Les Elliott <<a href="mailto:lelliott5@..." target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">lelliott5@...</a>
> wrote:<br>><br>><br>> On Sat, 2007-03-03 at 17:31 -0600, Donn Washburn wrote:
<br>> > Hey Group;<br>> ><br>> > I am about to embark on a job helping someone to get a 33<br>> 1/3 RPM old<br>> > audio record (as if you could find a new one.
<br>> ><br>> > Question number one is - I don't recall a true line level<br>> stereo input<br>> > on PC sound card. I do recall a AUX/CD stereo connector on<br>> the card or
<br>> > a 1/8" stereo Line IN (at least I would like to see one)<br>> that can accept<br>> > a line from a HIFI type amp stereo line out.<br>> ><br>> > From there I would have a linux mixer (qamix, kmix or the
<br>> like) play<br>> > back over the speakers that signal. From a mixer I could<br>> create a<br>> > audiofile.wav.<br>> ><br>> > Question #2 Anyone have knowledge from that point?
<br>> ><br>> > I would ultimately like to burn the audiofile.wav to a CD<br>> ><br>> > Even better capture the music on <a href="http://www.sky.fm/smoothjazz" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
www.sky.fm/smoothjazz
</a> which<br>> amarok does<br>> > so well.<br>> I've had great luck using Audacity for converting each side to<br>> one<br>> large .wav, then removing clicks, snaps, etc., then splitting
<br>> each track<br>> into individual wave files.<br>> Les<br>><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> ALG-technical mailing list<br>>
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<br>> I was just about to suggest Audacity also. It's great. I used it to
<br>> rip my dad's old LPs.<br><br>More details please! I have a create full of old LPs dating back to the<br>middle 60s that I would love to have in digital format.<br><br> Bob Pendleton<br><br><br>
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<br>I just take a double-male audio cable and wired one end to the turntable's
output (I use the "headphones" jack, but if your has "line out", use that
instead) and the other end to my computer's line in. Then I run Audacity, set the source to line in, hit record, and started the
record. Then I leave the room until the side completed so I won't
make it skip. <br><br>When recording finishes, I check for skips or repeats and rerecord if there is a problem. If there are pops, I use Audacity's "pop removal" function. It's a bit difficult to get it to work, but it works. I trim before the first song, and then delete everything after it, edit the ID3 tags and export an mp3. Then I undo to restore the rest of the audio, delete the first song, and repeat with the next song until there are none left. Then I flip the record over and do the other side.
<br><br>I'll warn you, it's tedious, but it's worth it, even if for bragging rights alone (I can brag about having music on my mp3 player not available on CD or mp3). <br><br>Some extra tips:<br>-If you use a headphone jack instead of line out, you'll probably want to adjust the volume on your record player as high as you can without having clipping (when amplitude goes above maximum).
<br>-If you prefer speed over quality, you can play the records at higher speed on the player and then downscale the speed in Audacity. This usually works and sounds fine, except it probably reduces quality a bit.<br>-If you prefer quality over speed, you can play the records at a lower speed and then speed them up in Audacity. This might increase the quality, as well as reduce the risk of popping. In either case, Audacity has preprogrammed settings for record speeds in the "change speed" control.
<br>-Don't dance next to the record player while ripping. <br>-Don't save the uncompressed Audacity project unless you have plenty of hard drive space to spare. <br>-Set the export quality in the settings if you want to save higher or lower quality than default.
<br><br>
Audacity is at <a href="http://audacity.sourceforge.net/">http://audacity.sourceforge.net/</a><br><br>Also, I found (but didn't bother to read) a how-to for this on WikiHow: <a href="http://www.wikihow.com/Change-Your-Records-Into-CDs">
http://www.wikihow.com/Change-Your-Records-Into-CDs</a><br>It might help. <br>
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