steve jenkin | 30 Oct 21:54 2014

[clug] Apology

I’m sorry that I fed the troll contributed to bombarding your inboxes with useless chatter and low-grade
noise of the last 6 days.
I counted 125+ messages in the thread.

Initially I gave them the benefit of the doubt, but ended up taking the bait and causing you all grief.

Have added a mailbox rule to sideline them, so I won’t get distracted, and in turn won’t waste your time.

I’m very sad at this, it’s the first time I’ve had to do this on CLUG.

Again, my apologies for wasting your bandwidth.

Steve Jenkin, IT Systems and Design 
0412 786 915 (+61 412 786 915)
PO Box 48, Kippax ACT 2615, AUSTRALIA



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Bryan Kilgallin | 30 Oct 17:55 2014

[clug] OpenMoko

Hal explained how to SSH from Nautilus into the phone. And Scott 
mentioned that his phone was inoperable.

I have now used Nautilus to browse around the phone's innards ad 
nauseam. And so I better appreciate why "out of the box" it's such a dog!

An obvious feature was the repetitive mostly-empty place-markers! Like 
you're supposed to write your own software.

For example I found only two sounds: an alarm and a phone-ring. Whereas 
I recall that my old BlackBerry came with whole lists of alternative 
ring-tone schemes.

The situation reminds me of a mechanic's description of my previous 
twenty two year old dead car. He said that it was a project for an 



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Bryan Kilgallin | 28 Oct 15:56 2014

[clug] Reasonableness

Steve and I corresponded:

{>>/  I’d like to train in Geology.
/>>/  Could you point me to the cartoon-guides for it?
/>/  My first university geology tutor has compounded a massive site, replete with photographs. I
recommend it.
/>/  <>
I’m sorry.
There’s NO cartoons that I can see.
No maps.

It’s just a bunch of boring text, bad colour choices, poor fonts and irrelevant photos.}

I have conducted fieldwork at those sites, including original research! 
It is obvious from the above that your claimed interest in the subject 
of my first degrees--was nothing but a Furphy, a straw man spoof. Doctor 
West was not an expert in the art of Web page design. Just a damned good 
bloke, who helped me when I needed it.



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Bryan Kilgallin | 28 Oct 11:34 2014

[clug] Why do we do what we do in Linux? [was Re: Text editor]

Scott mentioned a cartoon site:

{Not Steve, but}

Whereas the following cartoon site was searchable, for example by "Linux".

Yet searching for "Linux" on the following site--yields general 
references rather than comics.

However, the following page does portray Linux comics.



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Bryan Kilgallin | 27 Oct 17:51 2014

Re: [clug] Why do we do what we do in Linux? [was Re: Text editor]

Thanks, Hal:

> nautilus "connect to server" and select the ssh options is probably
> the easiest way to do this.

The instructions for connecting the phone to the desktop computer are at 
the following address.

I have been following this incantation. On the last line, I don't start 
with `$' as I use the fish shell. Anyhow, would someone please explain 
what this magic spell is doing? The above documentation says that the 
phone is "" and the desktop computer is "".

sudo ip address add dev usb0
sudo ip link set dev usb0 up
sudo route add -host dev usb0
ssh root@...



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Bryan Kilgallin | 25 Oct 14:37 2014

[clug] Text editor

I have been learning Vim via vimtutor. As recommended by Rute.

Why in the 21st century, use a text-based editor? This reminds me of 
using CP/M decades ago on a minicomputer. Is it an exercise in 
industrial archaeology, like learning to make cast-iron railway lines?



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Bryan Kilgallin | 24 Oct 13:44 2014

[clug] Next meeting
This page refers as follows.
"The details for the next monthly meeting are currently on a separate 
page <>."

That links to the following page.
Which states as follows.
"The next CLUG meeting is November 23rd

There's currently no talk lined up, maybe you'd like to give one?

    The next PSIG meeting is November 9th"

Yet this year, both dates are Sundays. Which differ from recent practice.



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jhock | 24 Oct 08:17 2014

[clug] Upgrade from Ubuntu 12.04 to 14.04 has destroyed Gnome customisation

Hi All,

I am totally p!$$ed off!

I have an eeePC with a 10.1" screen. About a month ago I upgraded from
Ubuntu LTS 12.04 to 14.04. In the process I stupidly answered "no" to
all the prompts to accept the default configuration hoping that all the
customisation of my Gnome windows - with many thanks to this list -
would be saved, but I lost almost everything that I like about Gnome.

I don't like Unity. I want a simple menu list with categories that I can
edit. During the upgrade I ended up with a stack of categories that I
don't want, don't know how to change and are so long that I can't see
the last few categories or their applicaions because they are off the
bottom of the screen. (I don't even know how to screen capture to show
this list the mess that I'm in.)

I also had the options at the top panel automatically hide itself so
that I can fully use the limited screen space. I also added my favourite
applications to the top panel eg. Midori, Evolution and ebReader. Those
options are now lost.

I also had the bottom panel automatically hide itself to fully use the
screen space but that option has gone. The bottom panel used to show
*all* the applications so that I could easily switch applications no
matter what window it was in. That option has now gone. I can only see
in the bottom panel the applications that apply to that window and not
the other windows.

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Paul Wayper | 21 Oct 00:00 2014

[clug] October Canberra Linux Users Group meeting

	Canberra Linux Users Group Meeting - 23rd October 2014

Date:		23rd October 2014 (Fourth Thursday of the month)

Time:		19:00 - 21:00 (or when it finishes)

Speaker:	Paul Wayper

		It's open source games night! 
		Come along and tell us about the games you play on
		Linux. From bzflag to Xonotic, from Aisleriot to
		Tetravex, from 0 A.D. to Widelands, from Adventure to
		Nethack, there's loads[0] of games out there to play. If
		you're up for it, bring along your computer with a game
		to play and we'll try to install and play it. 

Venue:		Room N101
		Computer Science and Information Technology Building
		North Road
		The Australian National University

		See for more directions and a map

Food/drink:	Pizza and soft drink/juice. Come hungry, and bring 
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Scott Ferguson | 18 Oct 12:22 2014

[clug] .bash_aliases and .bashrc

People have posted their favourites before...
Here's a couple I use that I haven't seen elsewhere. Peer review
wouldn't hurt me.

I'd also be interested in what other people find useful.

Replace "su -c" with "sudo" if you use it.


alias Check="su -c 'apt-get update;apt-get -s upgrade | more'"
alias Dmsg="dmesg | grep -i 'warn\|fail\|error\|alert'"
alias Vms="ssh scott <at> vbserver 'vboxmanage list runningvms'"
alias halt="su -c halt" # for systems without a windowmanager
alias whois="whois -H"
alias wgets='H="--header"; wget $H="Accept-Language: en-us,en;q=0.5"
$H="Accept: text/html,application/xh
tml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=0.8" $H="Connection: keep-alive" -U
"Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:
10.0.2) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/10.0.2" --referer= '
alias upgradeflash="su -c 'update-flashplugin-nonfree --install'"
alias upgradecalibre="su -c newcalibre"
alias dmsg='su -c "cat /var/log/messages | grep -v PROT | tail -n 32"'
alias Temp='hddtemp /dev/sda'
alias resolv='su -c "cp /home/scott/Scripts/resolv.conf /etc"'


function pause(){
echo "Press the Any key to continue..."
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Bryan Kilgallin | 17 Oct 14:24 2014

[clug] Programmable title

I have the following in the file.

function fish_title
     echo $_ 'shell '
     tty | cut -c 6-8
     echo ' on line '
     echo (tty) | cut -c 10-

So the terminal window title reads as follows.

"fish shell pts on line 0"

I would like that to substitute instead of "pts" rather "pseudo terminal".
In the case of being a "tty", then I'd like the title to say "terminal" 



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