Re: on a 'lighter note' about cloud computing

On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 1:14 PM, pete <pete <at> nomadlogic.org> wrote:
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> On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 00:03:47 -0400, George Rosamond
> <george <at> ceetonetechnology.com> wrote:
>> RMS himself stands with Ellison :)
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>> http://tinyurl.com/4otvb6
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> ah - now i'm just confused.  i've never really agreed with RMS before... :P
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I have agreed with RMS on tech issues, but I have never agreed with
him on his politics, FSF/GPL is politics.  His "right to read" essay
is interesting in that things are playing out in a similar way with
the licensing of content, music being the most common case.  But when
he get into how the market plays into things then he blows it as it is
a religious issue with him,IMO.

marc

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>> And the full Guardian article:
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>> http://tinyurl.com/4h9o2h
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> although i think he's taking exception with the whole ASP (application
> service provider ala gmail and salesforce.com etc) side of things - whereas
> i'm just being a grumpy old man tired of sales pitches ;)

Re: on a 'lighter note' about cloud computing

>>>>> "ms" == Marc Spitzer <mspitzer <at> gmail.com> writes:

    ms> when he get into how the market plays into things then he
    ms> blows it as it is a religious issue with him,IMO.

``the market'' seems to be a religious issue with anyone who
incorporates it so intimately into his idealogy.  I think Stallman's
positions are better-compartmentalized than those of the typical
libertarian geek who is trying to tell me competition among peoples,
nations, companies, ideas, and software licenses is the driving engine
of all progress, and thus by ``definition'' (progress=good), Good:

 http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showthread.php?p=9335059

I find the universalism and the certainty frightening, in the same way
that seriously religious people seem to crave certainty and universal
ideas are also frightening to me.  Certainty causes people to behave
drastically.  Craved certainty is likely false certainty.  Someone who
craves certainty is thus disposed to behave drastically and
mistakenly, and someone who craves the certainty of an ordered world
is likely to behave like a fascist.  so to me it feels like they are
out of control.  and FWIW, I perceive Stallman with his wild hair,
dubious hygeine, and extreme positions far outside the status-quo, as
_less_ out-of-control than the average Stephenson-reading geek
libertarian who largely agrees with the capitalist status-quo but is
just so motherfucking certain about it.

Stallman very clearly does understand that his ideal world is not the
one we live in, and he's extremely careful and deliberate about the
means he uses in trying to move from the actual world toward the one

PC BSD 7 Review

While I have never actually used it, PC BSD is a very interesting  
project that I have been keeping my eye on. I stumbled upon this  
review and it gives a very good overview of the latest version that  
was just released.

Also, Kris Moore, who is the lead developer for this project is going  
to be at NYCBSDCon

http://www.osnews.com/story/20351/Review_PC-BSD_7

--
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Don't miss this great opportunity to expand your network amid the 
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The conference schedule is packed with some of the best and brightest of 
the *BSD projects, with topics ranging from file systems to the portable 
C compiler, not to mention an array of developer and systems 
administrator related meetings.

Registration is only $95 and is available at 
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Columbia University affiliates receive the discounted rate of $50 with 
proper identification.

Please note that early registration now ends on Thursday at noon, when 
the conference price jumps to $145.  Registering at the conference on 
Saturday will cost $195.

The conference kicks off Friday night, October 10th at 6 pm with an 
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attendees, speakers and sponsors to join us that evening.

The Havanna Central will also host our social on Saturday evening, which 
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Attendees will have an opportunity to take the BSD Certification exam by 

Yahoo cloud computing changes. I wonder if this impacts their BSD usage.

http://yhoo.client.shareholder.com/ReleaseDetail.cfm?&ReleaseID=318602

"Yahoo! is making changes to its technology organization, led by Chief
Technology Officer Ari Balogh, to better position the company to
execute on its strategic priorities. Principal changes are developing
a world-class cloud computing and storage infrastructure; rewiring
Yahoo! onto common platforms; and creating a stronger partnership
between product and engineering teams."

The "rewiring" bit leads me to think they might be contemplating some
sort of OS moves might be afoot.

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Re: Yahoo cloud computing changes. I wonder if this impacts their BSD usage.

>>>>> "bg" == Brian Gupta <brian.gupta <at> gmail.com> writes:

    bg> The "rewiring" bit leads me to think they might be
    bg> contemplating some sort of OS moves might be afoot.

nah, they're probably just talking about the rewrite of Yahoo! Mail in
Erlang.  I think that's a lot more credible than any of this gross
speculation that a newly-hired chief of IT would want to ditch FreeBSD
for Linux.

>>>>> "bg" == Brian Gupta <brian.gupta <at> gmail.com> writes:

    bg> The "rewiring" bit leads me to think they might be
    bg> contemplating some sort of OS moves might be afoot.

nah, they're probably just talking about the rewrite of Yahoo! Mail in
Erlang.  I think that's a lot more credible than any of this gross
speculation that a newly-hired chief of IT would want to ditch FreeBSD
for Linux.

NYCBSDCon early registration ends tomorrow

FYI. . .

Early registration for NYCBSDCon 2008 closes on Thursday, October 9th at 
noon.  The price will rise from $95 to $145.  At 12:01 AM on Saturday, 
the price jumps to $195.

We strongly encourage all those looking to attend to register as soon as 
possible.

http://www.nycbsdcon.org/2008/register.html

We are excited to have a strong array of speakers this year.

For all those attending, we begin Friday at 6 PM at Havanna Central on 
Broadway across from Columbia University with a cash-bar social event.

Call for Volunteers, Saturday!

Hi All,

I'm putting out a call for volunteers for NYC*BSDCon, at 2 specific  
moments this weekend:

1) Saturday, 7am, Davis Auditorium (map here <http://www.nycbsdcon.org/2008/files/flyer-map.pdf 
 >)

2) Saturday, 6pm, Helpers at Bar, Havanna Central

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Especially for Saturday morning, we'll need to be putting up fliers on  
campus so people find the auditorium easily!

Please email me offlist if you can help!

Best,
.ike

I am sick will not be able to attend tomorrow.

I would like to give my "ticket" to someone else, named Patrick
Rutkowski. He will be coming tomorrow, and attending in my stead.

Thanks,
Brian

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Re: I am sick will not be able to attend tomorrow.

Yo

We going to karaoke the "party with pilo" style now at Duette 35 bet 5 and 6. Join us!

P/lo

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