Re: Melton's Will Be Back

On 11/30/2011 05:42 PM, Jim Kinney wrote:
> That thin black crap made in Ireland for the US market is always on 
> draft at Meltons.
>
> along with about 12 US Craft Beer taps and a 50+ count bottle selection.
>
> NOTE: I have not been to Ireland but according to friends who have 
> gone, look for the stuff here called "Foreign Extra" to get much 
> closer to "Real Guiness".
>
> Note2: Guiness Black Lager is truly horrid. Good for nothing but 
> boiling sausages in.
>
It's great in a Black & Tan pint.

The 1st time I had Guiness I thought it tasted like what tar smelled 
like, then I was given it ice cold, totally different taste.

> On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 5:15 PM, Scott Castaline <skotchman@... 
> <mailto:skotchman@...>> wrote:
>
>     On 11/30/2011 04:56 PM, Jim Kinney wrote:
>     > There are better beer bars around town but Meltons is perfect
>     for ALE
>     > post meeting socials. Decent food, decent beer selection, decent
>     > service, decent prices and close!
>     >
>     Guiness?
>     > On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Scott Castaline
>     <skotchman@... <mailto:skotchman@...>

raw files in the Gimp

Old camera died.  Got new camera (Nikon -- didn't want to toss a half 
dozen lenses)
New camera produces RAW files in format <filename.NEF>
If I open the image in Gimp, only the icon file is available.
The original image is 12 Mgb (more or less), but the file in Gimp is only
209 Kb -- 160 x 120 pixels.

So, can The Gimp handle Nikon RAW files?

If so, how do I set it up to do that?

Advice would be appreciated.

Sean

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Re: raw files in the Gimp

On 11/30/2011 10:14 PM, Drifter wrote:
> Old camera died.  Got new camera (Nikon -- didn't want to toss a half
> dozen lenses)
> New camera produces RAW files in format<filename.NEF>
> If I open the image in Gimp, only the icon file is available.
> The original image is 12 Mgb (more or less), but the file in Gimp is only
> 209 Kb -- 160 x 120 pixels.
>
> So, can The Gimp handle Nikon RAW files?
>
> If so, how do I set it up to do that?
>
> Advice would be appreciated.
>
> Sean
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You may want to check out RawTherapee at http://rawtherapee.com. When I 
was hoping to be able to get a DSLR I was looking at Nikon and was 
exploring OpenSource software that would directly handle the RAW format. 
I think that there was a plugin for Gimp, but several people had pointed 
me to RawTherapee and another package that slips from the old memory cells.
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Re: [semi-OT] Stop Corporate Censorship of the Internet

I had already done it through EFF and went ahead and did it again 
through moveon.org. Also just saw this article about 
globalchokepoints.org on lwn.com https://lwn.net/Articles/469985/
On 11/30/2011 10:08 AM, Erik Mathis wrote:
> This was easy and only took 3 minutes of my day.
>
> -Erik-
>
> On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 7:42 PM, Raylynn
Knight<seca900rider@...>  wrote:
>> I seldom agree with Aaron when it comes to politics, but I believe this proposed legislation is the one
mentioned by EFF  <at>  https://eff.org/r.C8A and I would prefer people use that link to protest.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Nov 29, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Aaron Ruscetta<arxaaron@...>  wrote:
>>
>>> The blood sucking corporapists are once again attacking
>>> our U.S. Constitution, our Freedom of Speech, the Internet
>>> and Fair Use. Sign the petition to call a stop to this fascist
>>> rape of America and theft of our Civil Liberties:
>>>
>>> <https://pol.moveon.org/nointernetcensorship/?id=33343-17936664-jZKvLzx&t=2>
>>>
>>> The legislation would allow the immediate shutdown of entire
>>> URL blocks based on any unsubstantiated whims of corporate
>>> media monopolists, leeching copyright hoarders and putrid
>>> patent trolls.
>>>

Re: raw files in the Gimp

A couple of gimp add-ons are gimp-dcraw and gimp-ufraw. I use and like
gimp-ufraw, but there are others.

On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 10:27 PM, Scott Castaline
<skotchman@...> wrote:
> On 11/30/2011 10:14 PM, Drifter wrote:
>> Old camera died.  Got new camera (Nikon -- didn't want to toss a half
>> dozen lenses)
>> New camera produces RAW files in format<filename.NEF>
>> If I open the image in Gimp, only the icon file is available.
>> The original image is 12 Mgb (more or less), but the file in Gimp is only
>> 209 Kb -- 160 x 120 pixels.
>>
>> So, can The Gimp handle Nikon RAW files?
>>
>> If so, how do I set it up to do that?
>>
>> Advice would be appreciated.
>>
>> Sean
>>
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> You may want to check out RawTherapee at http://rawtherapee.com. When I
> was hoping to be able to get a DSLR I was looking at Nikon and was
> exploring OpenSource software that would directly handle the RAW format.

Re: Melton's Will Be Back

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Re: Melton's Will Be Back

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Re: Melton's Will Be Back

Actually I had developed a taste for Guiness served at higher than iced 
temps, it's smooth and actually has a subtle bitter-sweet taste. I had 
also come across another stout back in 98, when I was in the process of 
moving up here, at Three Dollar Cafe near Town Center Mall called 
Optimizer. It was a German Stout, I had not been able to find it any 
where else.

On 11/30/2011 11:48 PM, Jim Kinney wrote:
>
> Yes. Lower temp hides the flavor. Like ice cold bud light.
>
> On Nov 30, 2011 10:12 PM, "Scott Castaline" <skotchman@... 
> <mailto:skotchman@...>> wrote:
>
>     On 11/30/2011 05:42 PM, Jim Kinney wrote:
>     > That thin black crap made in Ireland for the US market is always on
>     > draft at Meltons.
>     >
>     > along with about 12 US Craft Beer taps and a 50+ count bottle
>     selection.
>     >
>     > NOTE: I have not been to Ireland but according to friends who have
>     > gone, look for the stuff here called "Foreign Extra" to get much
>     > closer to "Real Guiness".
>     >
>     > Note2: Guiness Black Lager is truly horrid. Good for nothing but
>     > boiling sausages in.
>     >
>     It's great in a Black & Tan pint.
>
>     The 1st time I had Guiness I thought it tasted like what tar smelled
>     like, then I was given it ice cold, totally different taste.
>
>     > On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 5:15 PM, Scott Castaline
>     <skotchman@... <mailto:skotchman@...>
>     > <mailto:skotchman@...
<mailto:skotchman@...>>> wrote:
>     >
>     >     On 11/30/2011 04:56 PM, Jim Kinney wrote:
>     > > There are better beer bars around town but Meltons is perfect
>     >     for ALE
>     > > post meeting socials. Decent food, decent beer selection, decent
>     > > service, decent prices and close!
>     > >
>     >     Guiness?
>     > > On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Scott Castaline
>     > <skotchman@... <mailto:skotchman@...>
>     <mailto:skotchman@... <mailto:skotchman@...>>
>     > > <mailto:skotchman@... <mailto:skotchman@...>
>     <mailto:skotchman@...
<mailto:skotchman@...>>>> wrote:
>     > >
>     > >     On 11/30/2011 03:36 PM, Michael B. Trausch wrote:
>     > > > On 11/30/2011 03:18 PM, Jim Kinney wrote:
>     > > >> YAY!!!!!
>     > > >>
>     > > >> <sniff>  miss meltons </sniff>
>     > > > Am looking forward to being able to go there again!  Yay!
>     > > >
>     > > >       --- Mike
>     > >     I'll now be able to check this place out, I've never been
>     there
>     > >     before.
>     > >     With what you guys have been saying about it I feel I
>     definitely
>     > >     need to
>     > >     check it out.
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>     > > --
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>     > > James P. Kinney III
>     > >
>     > > As long as the general population is passive, apathetic,
>     diverted to
>     > > consumerism or hatred of the vulnerable, then the powerful can
>     do as
>     > > they please, and those who survive will be left to contemplate the
>     > > outcome.
>     > > - ////2011 Noam Chomsky
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>     > As long as the general population is passive, apathetic, diverted to
>     > consumerism or hatred of the vulnerable, then the powerful can do as
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>     > outcome.
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Re: Melton's Will Be Back

Sort of like bad frog legs,,,,,,,,:-b

On 11/30/2011 11:51 PM, Cameron Kilgore wrote:
> But Bud Light is always terrible compared to a Guiness.
>
> -- 
> Cameron Kilgore
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> On Wednesday, November 30, 2011 at 11:48 PM, Jim Kinney wrote:
>
>> Yes. Lower temp hides the flavor. Like ice cold bud light.
>>
>> On Nov 30, 2011 10:12 PM, "Scott Castaline" <skotchman@... 
>> <mailto:skotchman@...>> wrote:
>>> On 11/30/2011 05:42 PM, Jim Kinney wrote:
>>> > That thin black crap made in Ireland for the US market is always on
>>> > draft at Meltons.
>>> >
>>> > along with about 12 US Craft Beer taps and a 50+ count bottle 
>>> selection.
>>> >
>>> > NOTE: I have not been to Ireland but according to friends who have
>>> > gone, look for the stuff here called "Foreign Extra" to get much
>>> > closer to "Real Guiness".
>>> >
>>> > Note2: Guiness Black Lager is truly horrid. Good for nothing but
>>> > boiling sausages in.
>>> >
>>> It's great in a Black & Tan pint.
>>>
>>> The 1st time I had Guiness I thought it tasted like what tar smelled
>>> like, then I was given it ice cold, totally different taste.
>>>
>>> > On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 5:15 PM, Scott Castaline 
>>> <skotchman@... <mailto:skotchman@...>
>>> > <mailto:skotchman@...
<mailto:skotchman@...>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >     On 11/30/2011 04:56 PM, Jim Kinney wrote:
>>> > > There are better beer bars around town but Meltons is perfect
>>> >     for ALE
>>> > > post meeting socials. Decent food, decent beer selection, decent
>>> > > service, decent prices and close!
>>> > >
>>> >     Guiness?
>>> > > On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Scott Castaline
>>> > <skotchman@...
<mailto:skotchman@...> 
>>> <mailto:skotchman@... <mailto:skotchman@...>>
>>> > > <mailto:skotchman@...
<mailto:skotchman@...> 
>>> <mailto:skotchman@...
<mailto:skotchman@...>>>> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > >     On 11/30/2011 03:36 PM, Michael B. Trausch wrote:
>>> > > > On 11/30/2011 03:18 PM, Jim Kinney wrote:
>>> > > >> YAY!!!!!
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> <sniff>  miss meltons </sniff>
>>> > > > Am looking forward to being able to go there again!  Yay!
>>> > > >
>>> > > >       --- Mike
>>> > >     I'll now be able to check this place out, I've never been there
>>> > >     before.
>>> > >     With what you guys have been saying about it I feel I definitely
>>> > >     need to
>>> > >     check it out.
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>>> > >
>>> > > --
>>> > > --
>>> > > James P. Kinney III
>>> > >
>>> > > As long as the general population is passive, apathetic, diverted to
>>> > > consumerism or hatred of the vulnerable, then the powerful can do as
>>> > > they please, and those who survive will be left to contemplate the
>>> > > outcome.
>>> > > - ////2011 Noam Chomsky
>>> > >
>>> > > http://heretothereideas.blogspot.com/
>>> > > ////
>>> > >
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>>> >
>>> > As long as the general population is passive, apathetic, diverted to
>>> > consumerism or hatred of the vulnerable, then the powerful can do as
>>> > they please, and those who survive will be left to contemplate the
>>> > outcome.
>>> > - ////2011 Noam Chomsky
>>> >
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>>> > ////
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Re: Melton's Will Be Back

On Wed, 2011-11-30 at 23:58 -0500, Scott Castaline wrote: 
> Actually I had developed a taste for Guiness served at higher than iced 
> temps, it's smooth and actually has a subtle bitter-sweet taste. I had 
> also come across another stout back in 98, when I was in the process of 
> moving up here, at Three Dollar Cafe near Town Center Mall called 
> Optimizer. It was a German Stout, I had not been able to find it any 
> where else.

Guiness is definitely better served at "room temperature" but the
important thing to note is that it would be Irish / British "room
temperature" which is significantly cooler than us 'Mericans.  You'll
notice the heavy sweaters they're known for wearing.  Hint hint...

Mike

> On 11/30/2011 11:48 PM, Jim Kinney wrote:
> >
> > Yes. Lower temp hides the flavor. Like ice cold bud light.
> >
> > On Nov 30, 2011 10:12 PM, "Scott Castaline" <skotchman@... 
> > <mailto:skotchman@...>> wrote:
> >
> >     On 11/30/2011 05:42 PM, Jim Kinney wrote:
> >     > That thin black crap made in Ireland for the US market is always on
> >     > draft at Meltons.
> >     >
> >     > along with about 12 US Craft Beer taps and a 50+ count bottle
> >     selection.
> >     >
> >     > NOTE: I have not been to Ireland but according to friends who have
> >     > gone, look for the stuff here called "Foreign Extra" to get much
> >     > closer to "Real Guiness".
> >     >
> >     > Note2: Guiness Black Lager is truly horrid. Good for nothing but
> >     > boiling sausages in.
> >     >
> >     It's great in a Black & Tan pint.
> >
> >     The 1st time I had Guiness I thought it tasted like what tar smelled
> >     like, then I was given it ice cold, totally different taste.
> >
> >     > On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 5:15 PM, Scott Castaline
> >     <skotchman@... <mailto:skotchman@...>
> >     > <mailto:skotchman@...
<mailto:skotchman@...>>> wrote:
> >     >
> >     >     On 11/30/2011 04:56 PM, Jim Kinney wrote:
> >     > > There are better beer bars around town but Meltons is perfect
> >     >     for ALE
> >     > > post meeting socials. Decent food, decent beer selection, decent
> >     > > service, decent prices and close!
> >     > >
> >     >     Guiness?
> >     > > On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Scott Castaline
> >     > <skotchman@... <mailto:skotchman@...>
> >     <mailto:skotchman@... <mailto:skotchman@...>>
> >     > > <mailto:skotchman@... <mailto:skotchman@...>
> >     <mailto:skotchman@...
<mailto:skotchman@...>>>> wrote:
> >     > >
> >     > >     On 11/30/2011 03:36 PM, Michael B. Trausch wrote:
> >     > > > On 11/30/2011 03:18 PM, Jim Kinney wrote:
> >     > > >> YAY!!!!!
> >     > > >>
> >     > > >> <sniff>  miss meltons </sniff>
> >     > > > Am looking forward to being able to go there again!  Yay!
> >     > > >
> >     > > >       --- Mike
> >     > >     I'll now be able to check this place out, I've never been
> >     there
> >     > >     before.
> >     > >     With what you guys have been saying about it I feel I
> >     definitely
> >     > >     need to
> >     > >     check it out.
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> >     > > James P. Kinney III
> >     > >
> >     > > As long as the general population is passive, apathetic,
> >     diverted to
> >     > > consumerism or hatred of the vulnerable, then the powerful can
> >     do as
> >     > > they please, and those who survive will be left to contemplate the
> >     > > outcome.
> >     > > - ////2011 Noam Chomsky
> >     > >
> >     > > http://heretothereideas.blogspot.com/
> >     > > ////
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> >     >
> >     > As long as the general population is passive, apathetic, diverted to
> >     > consumerism or hatred of the vulnerable, then the powerful can do as
> >     > they please, and those who survive will be left to contemplate the
> >     > outcome.
> >     > - ////2011 Noam Chomsky
> >     >
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