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Damon L. Chesser | 1 Sep 2010 02:09

Re: Installing current Debian Sid

On Tue, 2010-08-31 at 17:48 -0400, James Sumners wrote:
> I'm pretty sure you encountered problems because testing ("squeeze")
> is currently frozen. When testing gets frozen, sid feels some side
> effects. While testing is frozen it gets the primary focus and sid
> gets to have broken packages for longer than normal.
> 
> Back when I ran Debian on a desktop (admittedly several years ago now)
> I had no problems installing stable and then dist-upgrading to sid.
> But I learned real fast not to try and even do an `apt-get update &&
> apt-get upgrade` when testing was in freeze mode.

I to have gone from stable to sid with out much hassle, just not on this
version of stable to sid.  I don't think this has anything to do with a
freeze, I think the jump is just to big at this point in time.  I might
have been able to go from stable to sid on just a base system, did not
try.  I started on Potato, fwiw.
> 
> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Damon L. Chesser <damon@...> wrote:
> > Someone, new to linux it seems posted an email about Debian and trying
> > to upgrade to Sid.  They said it broke the install.  I just installed
> > Debian stable onto my laptop, then dist-upgraded to Sid.  It did break
> > the install.  Udev needed to be updated, the kernel needed to be updated
> > and the following mess had many broken packages that would only be fixed
> > by using the manual (and dreaded) dpkg -i  --forced-$FOO options (See
> > dpkg --forced-help).  I thought it was to much a PITA so I re-installed.
> >
> > This time, I only installed a base install of Stable.  Changed sources
> > to point to Testing, upgraded, dist-upgraded (using apt-get, not
> > aptitude upgrade).  Changed sources to Sid, upgraded, then
> > dist-upgraded.  When I was done, I ran tasksel, checked "desktop" and

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Ron Frazier | 1 Sep 2010 04:34

Re: ALE ale outing : attempts at socializing generally unsociable people

I like the clubhouse idea.  It's a bit of a drive for me from Cumming 
(North on 400), but not much further than Emory.  If we get 10 people or 
more, that's only about $7 each plus the cost of food.

Ron

At 8/31/2010 05:56 PM -0400, you wrote:

>On Aug 29, 2010, at 8:56 PM, "Brian W. Neu" <ale@...> wrote:
>
> >
> > On 8/24/2010 5:17 PM, Geoffrey wrote:
> >> Actually, I can rent the clubhouse in our neighborhood for a pretty
> >> reasonable penny. Has wifi as well.  Grills on the outside and a deck.
> >> If folks are interested, I'll look into it.
> >>
> >> The upside for me, is, well, close to me.  Others may not like the
> >> location.  Look at a map where i575 and i75 meet?  I'm sitting right in
> >> the Y.
> >>
> > This location certainly gets my vote and the venue sounds perfect.  Did
> > you get a price yet?
>
>It's gone up. $75 rental. Still, not too bad.

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Raylynn Knight | 1 Sep 2010 04:52

Re: ALE ale outing : attempts at socializing generally unsociable people

I like this idea also.  I'd be willing to chip in $25 of the $75 fee.  Besides it can't be more than few miles from me!

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 31, 2010, at 10:34 PM, Ron Frazier
<atllinuxenthinfo@...> wrote:

> I like the clubhouse idea.  It's a bit of a drive for me from Cumming 
> (North on 400), but not much further than Emory.  If we get 10 people or 
> more, that's only about $7 each plus the cost of food.
> 
> Ron
> 
> At 8/31/2010 05:56 PM -0400, you wrote:
> 
>> On Aug 29, 2010, at 8:56 PM, "Brian W. Neu" <ale@...> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On 8/24/2010 5:17 PM, Geoffrey wrote:
>>>> Actually, I can rent the clubhouse in our neighborhood for a pretty
>>>> reasonable penny. Has wifi as well.  Grills on the outside and a deck.
>>>> If folks are interested, I'll look into it.
>>>> 
>>>> The upside for me, is, well, close to me.  Others may not like the
>>>> location.  Look at a map where i575 and i75 meet?  I'm sitting right in
>>>> the Y.
>>>> 
>>> This location certainly gets my vote and the venue sounds perfect.  Did
>>> you get a price yet?
>>

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Jim Kinney | 1 Sep 2010 05:27

Re: ALE ale outing : attempts at socializing generally unsociable people

I'm hearing a groundswell of enthusiasm for the clubhouse. If everyone kicks in a few $$ that sounds good to me.

Is there a grill? Beer rules? Etc.

Early to mid October? NOT Halloween weekend!

On Aug 31, 2010 10:57 PM, "Raylynn Knight" <seca900rider-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> I like this idea also. I'd be willing to chip in $25 of the $75 fee. Besides it can't be more than few miles from me!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 31, 2010, at 10:34 PM, Ron Frazier <atllinuxenthinfo-nCnHwSsCWFRWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
>> I like the clubhouse idea. It's a bit of a drive for me from Cumming
>> (North on 400), but not much further than Emory. If we get 10 people or
>> more, that's only about $7 each plus the cost of food.
>>
>> Ron
>>
>> At 8/31/2010 05:56 PM -0400, you wrote:
>>
>>> On Aug 29, 2010, at 8:56 PM, "Brian W. Neu" <ale-ejQy8aU/RJt784hN1I8aIQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 8/24/2010 5:17 PM, Geoffrey wrote:
>>>>> Actually, I can rent the clubhouse in our neighborhood for a pretty
>>>>> reasonable penny. Has wifi as well. Grills on the outside and a deck.
>>>>> If folks are interested, I'll look into it.
>>>>>
>>>>> The upside for me, is, well, close to me. Others may not like the
>>>>> location. Look at a map where i575 and i75 meet? I'm sitting right in
>>>>> the Y.
>>>>>
>>>> This location certainly gets my vote and the venue sounds perfect. Did
>>>> you get a price yet?
>>>
>>> It's gone up. $75 rental. Still, not too bad.
>>
>>
>> --------------------------
>> (PS - If you email me and don't get a quick response, you might want to
>> call on the phone. I get about 300 emails per day from alternate energy
>> mailing lists and such. I don't always see new messages very quickly.)
>>
>> Ron Frazier
>>
>> 770-205-9422 (O) Leave a message.
>> linuxdude AT c3energy.com
>>
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Geoffrey Myers | 1 Sep 2010 11:54

Re: ALE ale outing : attempts at socializing generally unsociable people

On Aug 31, 2010, at 11:27 PM, Jim Kinney <jim.kinney-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:

I'm hearing a groundswell of enthusiasm for the clubhouse. If everyone kicks in a few $$ that sounds good to me.

Is there a grill? Beer rules? Etc.

Very nice grill. As for beer, it is welcome, no rules regarding beer.

Early to mid October? NOT Halloween weekend!

Need to check the schedule. I'll see what's available and post back.

Later, Geoffrey

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 31, 2010 10:57 PM, "Raylynn Knight" <seca900rider-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> I like this idea also. I'd be willing to chip in $25 of the $75 fee. Besides it can't be more than few miles from me!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 31, 2010, at 10:34 PM, Ron Frazier <atllinuxenthinfo-nCnHwSsCWFRWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
>> I like the clubhouse idea. It's a bit of a drive for me from Cumming
>> (North on 400), but not much further than Emory. If we get 10 people or
>> more, that's only about $7 each plus the cost of food.
>>
>> Ron
>>
>> At 8/31/2010 05:56 PM -0400, you wrote:
>>
>>> On Aug 29, 2010, at 8:56 PM, "Brian W. Neu" <ale-ejQy8aU/RJt784hN1I8aIQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 8/24/2010 5:17 PM, Geoffrey wrote:
>>>>> Actually, I can rent the clubhouse in our neighborhood for a pretty
>>>>> reasonable penny. Has wifi as well. Grills on the outside and a deck.
>>>>> If folks are interested, I'll look into it.
>>>>>
>>>>> The upside for me, is, well, close to me. Others may not like the
>>>>> location. Look at a map where i575 and i75 meet? I'm sitting right in
>>>>> the Y.
>>>>>
>>>> This location certainly gets my vote and the venue sounds perfect. Did
>>>> you get a price yet?
>>>
>>> It's gone up. $75 rental. Still, not too bad.
>>
>>
>> --------------------------
>> (PS - If you email me and don't get a quick response, you might want to
>> call on the phone. I get about 300 emails per day from alternate energy
>> mailing lists and such. I don't always see new messages very quickly.)
>>
>> Ron Frazier
>>
>> 770-205-9422 (O) Leave a message.
>> linuxdude AT c3energy.com
>>
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Watson, Keith | 1 Sep 2010 14:17

AMD to Retire ATI Graphics Brand

AMD to Retire ATI Graphics Brand
http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/amd-to-retire-ati-graphics-brand/?news=123

http://preview.tinyurl.com/288fvsq

keith

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Lightner, Jeff | 1 Sep 2010 14:33

Re: AMD to Retire ATI Graphics Brand

Do not go gentle into that good night.
ATI Rage, ATI rage against the dying of the light.

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AMD to Retire ATI Graphics Brand
http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/amd-to-retire-ati-graphics-brand/
?news=123

http://preview.tinyurl.com/288fvsq

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Ron Frazier | 1 Sep 2010 15:37

Re: AMD to Retire ATI Graphics Brand

Unbelievable.  I think this will be bad for people who like high end 
hardware.  I've been somewhat of an ATI / AMD fan of late.  I'll throw out 
the disclaimer that I cannot currently afford high end hardware.  However, 
I did build a pc last year and I chose an MSI motherboard that is CAPABLE 
of using high end components.  Right now, it's stocked with an AMD Athlon 
X2 dual core CPU and an cheap ATI 4xxx series graphics card.  I was hoping 
to upgrade later when I have the money to a Phenom 6 core CPU and 2-4 
crossfire linked ATI graphics cards.  (Still not sure I'd want to spend a 
grand on graphics cards, though.)  If this had been their policy before, it 
doesn't seem like I would have been able to get a mid-high end motherboard 
and minimal integrated graphics.  As usual, the geeks and engineers get 
dumped for the benefit of the mass market.

Ron

At 9/1/2010 12:17 PM +0000, you wrote:
>AMD to Retire ATI Graphics Brand
>http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/amd-to-retire-ati-graphics-brand/?news=123
>
>http://preview.tinyurl.com/288fvsq
>
>keith
>
>--
>
>Keith R. Watson                        Georgia Institute of Technology
>Systems Support Specialist IV          College of Computing
>keith.watson@...             801 Atlantic Drive NW
>(404) 385-7401                         Atlanta, GA 30332-0280

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call on the phone.  I get about 300 emails per day from alternate energy 
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Ron Frazier

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Charles Shapiro | 1 Sep 2010 15:44

Re: ALE ale outing : attempts at socializing generally unsociable people

Heck, I'll try like the dickens to work it into my schedule.  Might
even bring some cider//cyser, depending on if I have any left.

-- CHS

On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 5:54 AM, Geoffrey Myers
<lists@...> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> On Aug 31, 2010, at 11:27 PM, Jim Kinney <jim.kinney@...> wrote:
>
> I'm hearing a groundswell of enthusiasm for the clubhouse. If everyone kicks
> in a few $$ that sounds good to me.
>
> Is there a grill? Beer rules? Etc.
>
> Very nice grill. As for beer, it is welcome, no rules regarding beer.
>
> Early to mid October? NOT Halloween weekend!
>
> Need to check the schedule. I'll see what's available and post back.
>
> --
> Later, Geoffrey
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 31, 2010 10:57 PM, "Raylynn Knight" <seca900rider@...> wrote:
>> I like this idea also. I'd be willing to chip in $25 of the $75 fee.
>> Besides it can't be more than few miles from me!
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Aug 31, 2010, at 10:34 PM, Ron Frazier <atllinuxenthinfo@...>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I like the clubhouse idea. It's a bit of a drive for me from Cumming
>>> (North on 400), but not much further than Emory. If we get 10 people or
>>> more, that's only about $7 each plus the cost of food.
>>>
>>> Ron
>>>
>>> At 8/31/2010 05:56 PM -0400, you wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Aug 29, 2010, at 8:56 PM, "Brian W. Neu" <ale@...>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 8/24/2010 5:17 PM, Geoffrey wrote:
>>>>>> Actually, I can rent the clubhouse in our neighborhood for a pretty
>>>>>> reasonable penny. Has wifi as well. Grills on the outside and a deck.
>>>>>> If folks are interested, I'll look into it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The upside for me, is, well, close to me. Others may not like the
>>>>>> location. Look at a map where i575 and i75 meet? I'm sitting right in
>>>>>> the Y.
>>>>>>
>>>>> This location certainly gets my vote and the venue sounds perfect. Did
>>>>> you get a price yet?
>>>>
>>>> It's gone up. $75 rental. Still, not too bad.
>>>
>>>
>>> --------------------------
>>> (PS - If you email me and don't get a quick response, you might want to
>>> call on the phone. I get about 300 emails per day from alternate energy
>>> mailing lists and such. I don't always see new messages very quickly.)
>>>
>>> Ron Frazier
>>>
>>> 770-205-9422 (O) Leave a message.
>>> linuxdude AT c3energy.com
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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Jim Kinney | 1 Sep 2010 15:59

Re: AMD to Retire ATI Graphics Brand

They're not dumping the hardware (or engineers) just the name.

On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Ron Frazier <atllinuxenthinfo-nCnHwSsCWFRWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org> wrote:

Unbelievable. I think this will be bad for people who like high end
hardware. I've been somewhat of an ATI / AMD fan of late. I'll throw out
the disclaimer that I cannot currently afford high end hardware. However,
I did build a pc last year and I chose an MSI motherboard that is CAPABLE
of using high end components. Right now, it's stocked with an AMD Athlon
X2 dual core CPU and an cheap ATI 4xxx series graphics card. I was hoping
to upgrade later when I have the money to a Phenom 6 core CPU and 2-4
crossfire linked ATI graphics cards. (Still not sure I'd want to spend a
grand on graphics cards, though.) If this had been their policy before, it
doesn't seem like I would have been able to get a mid-high end motherboard
and minimal integrated graphics. As usual, the geeks and engineers get
dumped for the benefit of the mass market.

Ron

At 9/1/2010 12:17 PM +0000, you wrote:
>AMD to Retire ATI Graphics Brand
>http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/amd-to-retire-ati-graphics-brand/?news=123
>
>http://preview.tinyurl.com/288fvsq
>
>keith
>
>--
>
>Keith R. Watson Georgia Institute of Technology
>Systems Support Specialist IV College of Computing
>keith.watson-ss4n/k5RZhZoyqKkVozopg@public.gmane.orgu 801 Atlantic Drive NW
>(404) 385-7401 Atlanta, GA 30332-0280

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