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Emil P. Man | 1 May 2004 02:10

Re: Microsoft strikes again

Preston Boyington wrote:

>Geoffrey wrote:
>: I was doing a bit of searching for anti-virus software that runs on
>: Linux and found the following:
>: 
>: "Due to the acquisition of RAV's IPR (Intellectual Property
>: Rights) by
>: Microsoft Corp., GeCAD Software SRL is currently engaged in a
>: strategic reorganization of its operations, which includes scaling
>: down and discontinuation of its anti-virus related business. More
>: details at: http://www.ravantivirus.com/pages/shownews.php?i=153 .
>: 
>: As part of this process please be informed that RAV AntiVirus online
>: and direct sales ceased September 3rd, 2003."
>: 
>I remember when this happened.  Speculation at the time was twofold: 1) M$ was acquiring and removing Linux
based "obstacles" from it's projected market 2) M$ now has the ability to offer native virus protection in
its next release (possibly Longhorn?) effectively cutting out the need for Norton/McAffee.  This would
also be seen as a leveraging point with M$ virus backlash in the press ("this would not have happened if
<company in question> had kept their M$ VirusScan up-to-date")
>
>Mainly I remember how remarks were pointing to RAV with their apparent ease of being bought out...
>
>Preston
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Geoffrey | 1 May 2004 02:18

Re: Microsoft strikes again

Emil P. Man wrote:
> Preston Boyington wrote:
> 
>> Geoffrey wrote:
>> : I was doing a bit of searching for anti-virus software that runs on
>> : Linux and found the following:
>> : : "Due to the acquisition of RAV's IPR (Intellectual Property
>> : Rights) by
>> : Microsoft Corp., GeCAD Software SRL is currently engaged in a
>> : strategic reorganization of its operations, which includes scaling
>> : down and discontinuation of its anti-virus related business. More
>> : details at: http://www.ravantivirus.com/pages/shownews.php?i=153 .
>> : : As part of this process please be informed that RAV AntiVirus online
>> : and direct sales ceased September 3rd, 2003."
>> : I remember when this happened.  Speculation at the time was twofold: 
>> 1) M$ was acquiring and removing Linux based "obstacles" from it's 
>> projected market 2) M$ now has the ability to offer native virus 
>> protection in its next release (possibly Longhorn?) effectively 
>> cutting out the need for Norton/McAffee.  This would also be seen as a 
>> leveraging point with M$ virus backlash in the press ("this would not 
>> have happened if <company in question> had kept their M$ VirusScan 
>> up-to-date")
>>
>> Mainly I remember how remarks were pointing to RAV with their apparent 
>> ease of being bought out...
>>
>> Preston
>> _______________________________________________
>
> I doubt they would be able to pull the second one off. It would start
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Bob Toxen | 1 May 2004 03:04

Re: X politics

XFree86 on my Slackware systems has crashed only once in 6 years.
I can't make the same claim about whatever garbage Red Hat uses.

Bob

On Fri, Apr 30, 2004 at 10:25:12AM -0400, Chris Ricker wrote:
> Now that X.org has been adopted by almost all the major distros, XFree86 has 
> this little whine:

> <http://xfree86.org/distro-support.html>
> <quote>
> Who's carrying XFree86 4.4.0?

> The list changes weekly, as more and more leading-edge distros release their 
> new versions and others, unfortunately, cave to growing pressure against us. 
> So show your support for XFree86 and freedom by supporting these distros and 
> declaring that you want the best. 

> </quote>

> Kinda funny / pathetic....

> later,
> chris
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Bob Toxen | 1 May 2004 03:09

Re: Microsoft strikes again

On Fri, Apr 30, 2004 at 03:41:44PM -0400, Geoffrey wrote:
> I was doing a bit of searching for anti-virus software that runs on 
> Linux and found the following:

> "Due to the acquisition of RAV's IPR (Intellectual Property Rights) by 
> Microsoft Corp., GeCAD Software SRL is currently engaged in a strategic 
> reorganization of its operations, which includes scaling down and 
> discontinuation of its anti-virus related business. More details at:
> http://www.ravantivirus.com/pages/shownews.php?i=153 .
RAV is a client of mine.  Another good company badly hurt by Microsoft.

> As part of this process please be informed that RAV AntiVirus online and 
> direct sales ceased September 3rd, 2003."

> -- 
> Until later, Geoffrey                     Registered Linux User #108567
> Building secure systems in spite of Microsoft

Bob Toxen
bob@...               [Please use for email to me]
http://www.verysecurelinux.com        [Network&Linux/Unix security consulting]
http://www.realworldlinuxsecurity.com [My book:"Real World Linux Security 2/e"]
Quality Linux & UNIX security and SysAdmin & software consulting since 1990.

"Microsoft: Unsafe at any clock speed!"
   -- Bob Toxen 10/03/2002
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Tom & JaVonn | 1 May 2004 03:15
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Re: Microsoft strikes again

Preston:

According to http://www.aaxnet.com/editor/edit029.html if M$ names the next release differently and
makes it incompatible with current Windows, the whole Bush-Ashcroft DOJ terms no longer apply.  Yikes!

Tom
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"Emil P. Man" <mailinglists@...> wrote:

> Preston Boyington wrote:
> 
> >Geoffrey wrote:
> >: I was doing a bit of searching for anti-virus software that runs on
> >: Linux and found the following:
> >: 
> >: "Due to the acquisition of RAV's IPR (Intellectual Property
> >: Rights) by
> >: Microsoft Corp., GeCAD Software SRL is currently engaged in a
> >: strategic reorganization of its operations, which includes scaling
> >: down and discontinuation of its anti-virus related business. More
> >: details at: http://www.ravantivirus.com/pages/shownews.php?i=153 .
> >: 
> >: As part of this process please be informed that RAV AntiVirus online
> >: and direct sales ceased September 3rd, 2003."
> >: 
> >I remember when this happened.  Speculation at the time was twofold: 1) M$ was acquiring and removing
Linux based "obstacles" from it's projected market 2) M$ now has the ability to offer native virus
protection in its next release (possibly Longhorn?) effectively cutting out the need for
Norton/McAffee.  This would also be seen as a leveraging point with M$ virus backlash in the press ("this
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Geoffrey | 1 May 2004 05:28

SuSE 9.1 pricey?

I was just checking out the price of SuSE 9.1 pro update.  59.95, but 
that's not the worse part.  16% tax!  $5 shipping, $10.39 tax.

--

-- 
Until later, Geoffrey                     Registered Linux User #108567
Building secure systems in spite of Microsoft
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Chris Ricker | 1 May 2004 05:31
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On Fri, 30 Apr 2004, Bob Toxen wrote:

> XFree86 on my Slackware systems has crashed only once in 6 years.
> I can't make the same claim about whatever garbage Red Hat uses.

They used that same XFree86 garbage that Slackware did.

It's the future releases of Red Hat, and most everything else, which are 
shifting to the X.org (X11R6.7) code base.

later,
chris
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James P. Kinney III | 1 May 2004 05:52

Re: X politics

On Fri, 2004-04-30 at 23:31, Chris Ricker wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Apr 2004, Bob Toxen wrote:
> 
> > XFree86 on my Slackware systems has crashed only once in 6 years.
> > I can't make the same claim about whatever garbage Red Hat uses.
> 
> They used that same XFree86 garbage that Slackware did.

I don't think I have ever had XFree86 crash in the 9 years I've had a
Linux box running it.

Gnome, KDE, and all the other window managers have crashed. Except for
twm.

Good old twm.

Ugly, but damn stable twm.

Nautilus, if it ever gets to the point it needs to (to look and act like
a Mac :) will actually be pretty nice in many respects.

I'm not a KDE user as I was tweaking twm/mwm while KDE was ramping up
and I didn't like the QT license snafu. But I do like the KDE sdetup
with Knoppix. It made me reconsider KDE.

But the window managers still crash occasionally.

Except for twm.

It must be too brain dead to fail. Slackware can load it easily but
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Chris Ricker | 1 May 2004 05:53
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OpenBSD 3.5

OpenBSD 3.5 is now released. See <http://www.openbsd.org/35.html>.

Looks like the most noticeable changes are 64-bit port to AMD64, and some
cool stateful firewall failover support....

later,
chris
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Jim Philips | 1 May 2004 13:28

Re: SuSE 9.1 pricey?

On Friday 30 April 2004 23:28, Geoffrey wrote:
> I was just checking out the price of SuSE 9.1 pro update.  59.95, but
> that's not the worse part.  16% tax!  $5 shipping, $10.39 tax.

Sheesh! That sounds like the tax for several states combined. Where are they 
shipping from?
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