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Jim Philips | 1 Aug 2003 01:34
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Re: OT: And you thought offshoring was the real threat ...

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Nathan J. Underwood | 1 Aug 2003 01:53

OT: What was the IRC server again?


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Robert L. Harris | 1 Aug 2003 02:04

Re: still trying to figure it out


Ok, do you have the same dns config inside and out?  What do you get
with dig outputs?  Can you hit the server on 53 tcp and 53 udp?

Thus spake Geoffrey (esoteric@...):

> I'm still trying to figure out why I can not get to the web site 
> https://mybenefits.csplans.com/
> 
> I was just looking at the output of tcpdump.  When I connect 
> successfully from inside the dmz, I see a dns request and then a 
> response.  When I attempt to connect from behind the dmz, I see a dns 
> request and 'no such name' error.
> 
> Anyone have any idea how it is the data being passed to the dns server 
> would, in anyway get changed such that it can not locate the name?  Both 
> queries hit the same name server.
> 
> This is really driving me nuts.
> 
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> The latest, most widespread virus?  Microsoft end user agreement.
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George Johnson | 1 Aug 2003 02:01
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RE: 20/40 GB Tape backup

I tested my 15/30 on Solaris and Windows xp to verify speed.  Try another os
to see if it is the drive or the os.  Are you in compression mode?

gj
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Subject: [ale] 20/40 GB Tape backup

I installed a SCSI-3 Compaq external 20/40GB tape drive.
I'm trying to figure out shy it seems to take a long time
to do a backup.  I have no prior experience with this type
of drive so I was hoping ppl here would know best.  I'm backing up
around 5GB now.  It takes a little more than 2 hours to do that
backup.  So 20GB of data would take much longer.  Is this a realistic
amount of time for a backup of this size?

Thanks,
Chris
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Robert L. Harris | 1 Aug 2003 02:06

Re: 20/40 GB Tape backup


What device are you backing up to and what command are you using to kick
it off?

Thus spake Christopher Fowler (cfowler@...):

> 
> 
> I installed a SCSI-3 Compaq external 20/40GB tape drive.
> I'm trying to figure out shy it seems to take a long time
> to do a backup.  I have no prior experience with this type
> of drive so I was hoping ppl here would know best.  I'm backing up
> around 5GB now.  It takes a little more than 2 hours to do that
> backup.  So 20GB of data would take much longer.  Is this a realistic
> amount of time for a backup of this size?
> 
> Thanks,
> Chris
> _______________________________________________
> Ale mailing list
> Ale@...
> http://www.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale

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Christopher Fowler | 1 Aug 2003 02:10
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Re: 20/40 GB Tape backup

I'm backing up to <flamebait>/dev/rStp0</flamebait>.  I'm
using 'cpio -ocvO /dev/rStp0'

On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 08:06:15PM -0400, Robert L. Harris wrote:
> 
> What device are you backing up to and what command are you using to kick
> it off?
> 
> 
> Thus spake Christopher Fowler (cfowler@...):
> 
> > 
> > 
> > I installed a SCSI-3 Compaq external 20/40GB tape drive.
> > I'm trying to figure out shy it seems to take a long time
> > to do a backup.  I have no prior experience with this type
> > of drive so I was hoping ppl here would know best.  I'm backing up
> > around 5GB now.  It takes a little more than 2 hours to do that
> > backup.  So 20GB of data would take much longer.  Is this a realistic
> > amount of time for a backup of this size?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Chris
> > _______________________________________________
> > Ale mailing list
> > Ale@...
> > http://www.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale
> 
> :wq!
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Robert L. Harris | 1 Aug 2003 02:15

Re: 20/40 GB Tape backup


Odd, don't recognize that tape device.  What kernel is this?  Do you
have a "/dev/nst0" ?

Thus spake Christopher Fowler (cfowler@...):

> I'm backing up to <flamebait>/dev/rStp0</flamebait>.  I'm
> using 'cpio -ocvO /dev/rStp0'
> 
> On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 08:06:15PM -0400, Robert L. Harris wrote:
> > 
> > What device are you backing up to and what command are you using to kick
> > it off?
> > 
> > 
> > Thus spake Christopher Fowler (cfowler@...):
> > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I installed a SCSI-3 Compaq external 20/40GB tape drive.
> > > I'm trying to figure out shy it seems to take a long time
> > > to do a backup.  I have no prior experience with this type
> > > of drive so I was hoping ppl here would know best.  I'm backing up
> > > around 5GB now.  It takes a little more than 2 hours to do that
> > > backup.  So 20GB of data would take much longer.  Is this a realistic
> > > amount of time for a backup of this size?
> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > Chris
> > > _______________________________________________
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Geoffrey | 1 Aug 2003 02:17

Re: still trying to figure it out

Robert L. Harris wrote:
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> Ok, do you have the same dns config inside and out?

Yes, and the output for the sniffing was off of the ethernet connected 
to my dsl.  So I see both dns requests go out, I see one come back okay, 
the other comes back 'no name.'

> What do you get with dig outputs?

 From inside the dmz:

dig mybenefits.csplans.com

; <<>> DiG 9.2.2 <<>> mybenefits.csplans.com
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 19937
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;mybenefits.csplans.com.                IN      A

;; Query time: 115 msec
;; SERVER: 66.20.234.15#53(66.20.234.15)
;; WHEN: Thu Jul 31 20:11:19 2003
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 40

 From the firewall on the other side of the dmz:
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Nathan J. Underwood | 1 Aug 2003 02:18

Fresh Gentoo Install #2, and I've got 2 questions

I'm installing box#2 (my desktop  <at>  home) with Gentoo (was Red Hat), and I've
noticed a couple of things.  1) After I chroot into my 'new OS', and start the
emerge system, it can't resolve anything (the /etc/resolve.conf was properly
copied, and has the correct information).  I've ended up having to put entries
in /etc/hosts to make it work (even though from the ALT+F2 terminal I can ping,
lynx, etc to the host that it's trying [and failing] to find).  Am I doing
anything wrong here?  2) Is there a way to stop / restart the emerge system
process?  The reason that I'm asking this is that it seems to be getting hung on
occasion, and I've got an overwhelming desire to stop / restart it, but don't
want to have to go through the entire process again (will it pick up where it
left off?).  I'm sure that I'll have other bothersome questions later, and on
throughout my Gentoo experience, but these were the two that come to mind right now.

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David Corbin | 1 Aug 2003 02:21

Re: Perl Question

from "man perlfunc"

grep BLOCK LIST
               This is similar in spirit to, but not the same as, grep(1) and 
its relatives.  In particular, it is not limited to using regular 
expressions.

               Evaluates the BLOCK or EXPR for each element of LIST (locally 
setting $_ to each element) and returns the list  value consisting of those 
elements for which the expression evaluated to true.  

I assume that "grep $doc, <at> list" is equivalent to "grep {$doc}  <at> list", and your 
$doc values were clearly true.  The BLOCK version of grep is very useful to 
apply more complex "examinations" than standard perl patterns.

On Thursday 31 July 2003 18:02, Danny Cox wrote:
> 	I was bitten by this yesterday (sorry, I was busy doing other things
> last night, or I would have posted then).
>
> 	I attempted to use the "grep EXPR,  <at> list" described in "Programming
> Perl" and it didn't work as I expected.
>
> 	Background: I wanted to set up a list and stuff 3 digit numbers into it
> (actually EDI document names: 810, 850, 208, etc.).  I wanted to use
> grep (the Perl grep) to let me know if that number was already extant.
> So, I used the following fragment:
>
> 	$count = grep $doc,  <at> list
>
> where $doc == "810" for example.  When the list was empty, $count was
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