Burr Sutter | 9 Nov 13:44 2007
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jbpm in Atlanta

Sorry for the late notice but we can do this in the JBoss office in Buckhead starting at 2pm on 11/09/2007

If you are still interested feel free to contact me via cell phone: 770-714-3292 (i'll be in meetings until noon then returning voice mails)

*JBoss, a division of Red Hat*
3340 Peachtree Road, NE
Suite 1200
Atlanta, GA. 30326
USA
Tel: +1-404-467-8555
Fax: +1-404-948-1496
 
Tower Place (the building with the green stripes at night), the parking deck is located toward the back right-side of the building.
 
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Gunnar Hillert | 10 Nov 01:30 2007

Re: jbpm in Atlanta - Thanks!!!!

Hi Burr,

Many thanks to you and Koen Aers for hosting this event today. This was an awesome event and we certainly learnt a lot!

Dank u wel!

Tot ziens -

Gunnar




Burr Sutter wrote:
Sorry for the late notice but we can do this in the JBoss office in Buckhead starting at 2pm on 11/09/2007

If you are still interested feel free to contact me via cell phone: 770-714-3292 (i'll be in meetings until noon then returning voice mails)

*JBoss, a division of Red Hat*
3340 Peachtree Road, NE
Suite 1200
Atlanta, GA. 30326
USA
Tel: +1-404-467-8555
Fax: +1-404-948-1496
 
Tower Place (the building with the green stripes at night), the parking deck is located toward the back right-side of the building.
 
Burr
 
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Scott Mitchell | 15 Nov 15:00 2007

Web Services Framework of Choice

So, if you were starting from scratch on a web services project what framework/approach would you take these days? I can tell you that in our situation we have a Spring managed middle tier in case that colors the conversation at all. We obviously have to support SOAP, but REST is of interest as well.

XFire (now CXF?) looks interesting. Enunciate (http://enunciate.codehaus.org/) also looks interesting, but I don't know if it really has legs.

Any thoughts/experiences would be very welcome.

Thanks,
Scott

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Carl Hall | 15 Nov 15:46 2007
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Re: Web Services Framework of Choice

I've used Axis 1, Axis 2 and XFire in the past; each with varying
levels of success but I have most often and most recently chosen XFire
(moving to CXF) because of its ease of use, how it gets out of the way
(unlike Axis 2) and performance (over Axis 1).  I think each has an
Eclipse plugin that can help you get going with consuming or
publishing a web server.

On Nov 15, 2007 9:00 AM, Scott Mitchell <scott@...> wrote:
> So, if you were starting from scratch on a web services project what
> framework/approach would you take these days? I can tell you that in our
> situation we have a Spring managed middle tier in case that colors the
> conversation at all. We obviously have to support SOAP, but REST is of
> interest as well.
>
> XFire (now CXF?) looks interesting. Enunciate
> (http://enunciate.codehaus.org/) also looks interesting, but I don't know if
> it really has legs.
>
> Any thoughts/experiences would be very welcome.
>
> Thanks,
> Scott
>
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Les Hazlewood | 15 Nov 18:51 2007

Re: Web Services Framework of Choice

I concur.  You'll probably want to stay away from Axis (both versions).  The original XFire is good, and although I haven't used Enunciate, it looks really clean and simple.  But since Spring is definitely my core framework of choice, and CXF uses Spring under the hood, and CXF is like next-generation XFire with more features and maybe more development support behind it, I'd go with CXF if starting a new project.

Regards,

Les

On 11/15/07, Carl Hall <carl.hall-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
I've used Axis 1, Axis 2 and XFire in the past; each with varying
levels of success but I have most often and most recently chosen XFire
(moving to CXF) because of its ease of use, how it gets out of the way
(unlike Axis 2) and performance (over Axis 1).  I think each has an
Eclipse plugin that can help you get going with consuming or
publishing a web server.


On Nov 15, 2007 9:00 AM, Scott Mitchell < scott-erHwF/MJlSKKEeXX6DDxUNi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> So, if you were starting from scratch on a web services project what
> framework/approach would you take these days? I can tell you that in our
> situation we have a Spring managed middle tier in case that colors the
> conversation at all. We obviously have to support SOAP, but REST is of
> interest as well.
>
> XFire (now CXF?) looks interesting. Enunciate
> (http://enunciate.codehaus.org/ ) also looks interesting, but I don't know if
> it really has legs.
>
> Any thoughts/experiences would be very welcome.
>
> Thanks,
> Scott
>
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Burr Sutter | 15 Nov 21:02 2007
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Re: Web Services Framework of Choice

From my perspective it has become a two horse race.  Apache CXF (XFire + IONA's engineers working on Celtix) and Metro (the Sun RI for JAX-WS).  Ideally the Java world would get down to one defacto standard web services stack because the biggest issue is related to interoperability.  Metro is the best for .NET interop at this time but CXF has a broader open source appeal.
 
Burr

 
On 11/15/07, Les Hazlewood <les-i0TcOLe9C0f2eFz/2MeuCQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:
I concur.  You'll probably want to stay away from Axis (both versions).  The original XFire is good, and although I haven't used Enunciate, it looks really clean and simple.  But since Spring is definitely my core framework of choice, and CXF uses Spring under the hood, and CXF is like next-generation XFire with more features and maybe more development support behind it, I'd go with CXF if starting a new project.

Regards,

Les


On 11/15/07, Carl Hall <carl.hall-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org > wrote:
I've used Axis 1, Axis 2 and XFire in the past; each with varying
levels of success but I have most often and most recently chosen XFire
(moving to CXF) because of its ease of use, how it gets out of the way
(unlike Axis 2) and performance (over Axis 1).  I think each has an
Eclipse plugin that can help you get going with consuming or
publishing a web server.


On Nov 15, 2007 9:00 AM, Scott Mitchell < scott-erHwF/MJlSKKEeXX6DDxUNi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> So, if you were starting from scratch on a web services project what
> framework/approach would you take these days? I can tell you that in our
> situation we have a Spring managed middle tier in case that colors the
> conversation at all. We obviously have to support SOAP, but REST is of
> interest as well.
>
> XFire (now CXF?) looks interesting. Enunciate
> (http://enunciate.codehaus.org/ ) also looks interesting, but I don't know if
> it really has legs.
>
> Any thoughts/experiences would be very welcome.
>
> Thanks,
> Scott
>
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> ajug-members mailing list
> ajug-members-4vciHtwbE8s@public.gmane.org
> http://www.ajug.org/mailman/listinfo/ajug-members
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Joe Sam Shirah | 20 Nov 16:39 2007
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Fw: Open Source Java 6 Developer Preview Release


    Any Apple/Mac users here might be interested in the message below from
the Apple Dev list.

                                                         Joe Sam

Joe Sam Shirah -        http://www.conceptgo.com
conceptGO       -        Consulting/Development/Outsourcing
Java Filter Forum:       http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/java/
Just the JDBC FAQs: http://www.jguru.com/faq/JDBC
Going International?    http://www.jguru.com/faq/I18N
Que Java400?            http://www.jguru.com/faq/Java400

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Landon Fuller" <landonf@...>
To: <java-dev@...>
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 2:14 AM
Subject: Open Source Java 6 Developer Preview Release

Howdy everyone,

I'm pleased to announce the first Developer Preview release of the
open-source port of Java 6 to Mac OS X (Intel).

While I've spent some time testing this release with my own projects,
this preview release should be considered early-beta quality.
The project is very much in need of additional community testing -- If
you're hankering for Java 6, please give this a try!

The full announcement, as well as download and build instructions, are
available here:

http://landonf.bikemonkey.org/code/macosx/MacOS_Java_16_Developer_Preview_1.20071120.html

Cheers all!
Landon Fuller
Les Hazlewood | 20 Nov 19:42 2007

Re: Fw: Open Source Java 6 Developer Preview Release

Oh man... Thank you SO much for forwarding this on.  I've been waiting forever for something like this...  I hate not being able to utilize an almost a _year old_ JDK on my Mac.  Apple bastards...

I'm not bitter or anything...

Huge props to Sun for open sourcing their JDK and allowing projects like this to succeed and cater to people like me :)

On 11/20/07, Joe Sam Shirah <joe_sam-Bdlq13kUjeyLZ21kGMrzwg@public.gmane.org> wrote:

    Any Apple/Mac users here might be interested in the message below from
the Apple Dev list.


                                                         Joe Sam

Joe Sam Shirah -         http://www.conceptgo.com
conceptGO       -        Consulting/Development/Outsourcing
Java Filter Forum:       http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/java/
Just the JDBC FAQs: http://www.jguru.com/faq/JDBC
Going International?    http://www.jguru.com/faq/I18N
Que Java400?             http://www.jguru.com/faq/Java400

----- Original Message -----
From: "Landon Fuller" <landonf-iHXJ28LxybzxHHOgziuhFQ@public.gmane.org>
To: < java-dev-KAbXV2sdvEinzT0iUeSTvQ@public.gmane.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 2:14 AM
Subject: Open Source Java 6 Developer Preview Release

Howdy everyone,

I'm pleased to announce the first Developer Preview release of the
open-source port of Java 6 to Mac OS X (Intel).

While I've spent some time testing this release with my own projects,
this preview release should be considered early-beta quality.
The project is very much in need of additional community testing -- If
you're hankering for Java 6, please give this a try!

The full announcement, as well as download and build instructions, are
available here:

http://landonf.bikemonkey.org/code/macosx/MacOS_Java_16_Developer_Preview_1.20071120.html


Cheers all!
Landon Fuller


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Jeremy Haile | 26 Nov 15:19 2007

Re: Fw: Open Source Java 6 Developer Preview Release

I think it's great to see projects like this, although I wonder how long it will be before companies feel comfortable running their mission-critical apps on an open-source JDK project.  Any thoughts?

In the short term, perhaps projects like this will pressure Apple to hurry up and put out their official JDK 6.



On Nov 20, 2007, at 1:42 PM, Les Hazlewood wrote:

Oh man... Thank you SO much for forwarding this on.  I've been waiting forever for something like this...  I hate not being able to utilize an almost a _year old_ JDK on my Mac.  Apple bastards...

I'm not bitter or anything...

Huge props to Sun for open sourcing their JDK and allowing projects like this to succeed and cater to people like me :)

On 11/20/07, Joe Sam Shirah <joe_sam-Bdlq13kUjeyLZ21kGMrzwg@public.gmane.org> wrote:

    Any Apple/Mac users here might be interested in the message below from
the Apple Dev list.


                                                         Joe Sam

Joe Sam Shirah -         http://www.conceptgo.com
conceptGO       -        Consulting/Development/Outsourcing
Java Filter Forum:       http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/java/
Just the JDBC FAQs: http://www.jguru.com/faq/JDBC
Going International?    http://www.jguru.com/faq/I18N
Que Java400?             http://www.jguru.com/faq/Java400

----- Original Message -----
From: "Landon Fuller" <landonf-iHXJ28LxybzxHHOgziuhFQ@public.gmane.org>
To: < java-dev-KAbXV2sdvEinzT0iUeSTvQ@public.gmane.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 2:14 AM
Subject: Open Source Java 6 Developer Preview Release

Howdy everyone,

I'm pleased to announce the first Developer Preview release of the
open-source port of Java 6 to Mac OS X (Intel).

While I've spent some time testing this release with my own projects,
this preview release should be considered early-beta quality.
The project is very much in need of additional community testing -- If
you're hankering for Java 6, please give this a try!

The full announcement, as well as download and build instructions, are
available here:

http://landonf.bikemonkey.org/code/macosx/MacOS_Java_16_Developer_Preview_1.20071120.html


Cheers all!
Landon Fuller


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Les Hazlewood | 26 Nov 18:34 2007

Re: Fw: Open Source Java 6 Developer Preview Release

My hope is that Apple will hurry up or that Sun creates an official Mac OS release.  I was excited more for day-to-day development activity on my Mac since I haven't been able to play with JDK 6 features for almost a year with any regularity.  I always deploy to *nix whenever possible (or Windows if required), so production is rarely an issue for mission critical apps (at least for me).

- Les

On 11/26/07, Jeremy Haile <jhaile-97jfqw80gc6171pxa8y+qA@public.gmane.org> wrote:
I think it's great to see projects like this, although I wonder how long it will be before companies feel comfortable running their mission-critical apps on an open-source JDK project.  Any thoughts?

In the short term, perhaps projects like this will pressure Apple to hurry up and put out their official JDK 6.



On Nov 20, 2007, at 1:42 PM, Les Hazlewood wrote:

Oh man... Thank you SO much for forwarding this on.  I've been waiting forever for something like this...  I hate not being able to utilize an almost a _year old_ JDK on my Mac.  Apple bastards...

I'm not bitter or anything...

Huge props to Sun for open sourcing their JDK and allowing projects like this to succeed and cater to people like me :)

On 11/20/07, Joe Sam Shirah <joe_sam-Bdlq13kUjeyLZ21kGMrzwg@public.gmane.org> wrote:

    Any Apple/Mac users here might be interested in the message below from
the Apple Dev list.


                                                         Joe Sam

Joe Sam Shirah -         http://www.conceptgo.com
conceptGO       -        Consulting/Development/Outsourcing
Java Filter Forum:       http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/java/
Just the JDBC FAQs: http://www.jguru.com/faq/JDBC
Going International?     http://www.jguru.com/faq/I18N
Que Java400?             http://www.jguru.com/faq/Java400

----- Original Message -----
From: "Landon Fuller" < landonf-iHXJ28LxybzxHHOgziuhFQ@public.gmane.org>
To: < java-dev-KAbXV2sdvEinzT0iUeSTvQ@public.gmane.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 2:14 AM
Subject: Open Source Java 6 Developer Preview Release

Howdy everyone,

I'm pleased to announce the first Developer Preview release of the
open-source port of Java 6 to Mac OS X (Intel).

While I've spent some time testing this release with my own projects,
this preview release should be considered early-beta quality.
The project is very much in need of additional community testing -- If
you're hankering for Java 6, please give this a try!

The full announcement, as well as download and build instructions, are
available here:

http://landonf.bikemonkey.org/code/macosx/MacOS_Java_16_Developer_Preview_1.20071120.html


Cheers all!
Landon Fuller


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