Vickram Crishna | 1 Dec 2010 05:58
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Re: The 2G spectrum scandal and the expose of the Nira

We have talked about (I don't want to use the word discuss, since what we have 
actually discussed is the flagrant lack of information pertaining to the usage 
of what the government itself claims is a highly limited resource) alternative 
uses of spectrum other than that allegedly the result of current government 
policy.

What is the situation in other countries? Is actual usage publicly monitored?

I think we need to force the government to spell out its policy and the 
logic/rationale cited to support it. When a physical resource is turned into an 
economic asset, the incentive for some kind of people to hoard some of it for 
themselves, at the cost of the whole country, is evidently irresistible.   
 Vickram
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> From: Ramnarayan.K <ramnarayan.k@...>
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> 
> See news article that describes that a public interest organization
> has filed  a petition to prevent the destruction of the Radia Tapes
> 
> What is not odd  and what typifies the ailing of our system is not that
> some one has asked for  the tapes "not to be destroyed" but the surety
> we know that the tapes will be  destroyed.
> 
> Various articles have appeared about the national commons etc  so would
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Frederick Noronha | 1 Dec 2010 06:17
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Re: The 2G spectrum scandal and the expose of the Nira

Sorry for asking a basic question -- what then are the options in
spectrum management? Should there be "management" in the first place?
Or is this just too loaded a question? FN

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On 1 December 2010 10:28, Vickram Crishna <v1clist@...> wrote:
> We have talked about (I don't want to use the word discuss, since what we have
> actually discussed is the flagrant lack of information pertaining to the usage
> of what the government itself claims is a highly limited resource) alternative
> uses of spectrum other than that allegedly the result of current government
> policy.
>
> What is the situation in other countries? Is actual usage publicly monitored?
>
> I think we need to force the government to spell out its policy and the
> logic/rationale cited to support it. When a physical resource is turned into an
> economic asset, the incentive for some kind of people to hoard some of it for
> themselves, at the cost of the whole country, is evidently irresistible.
>  Vickram
> http://communicall.wordpress.com
> http://vvcrishna.wordpress.com
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Ramnarayan.K <ramnarayan.k@...>
>> To: india-gii@...
>> Sent: Tue, 30 November, 2010 19:18:20
>> Subject: Re: [india-gii] The 2G spectrum scandal and the expose of the Nira
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Vickram Crishna | 1 Dec 2010 07:09
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Well, speaking as an outsider, I don't think the theoretical usage figures will 
be all that difficult to enumerate, considering the elaborate structure of 
licenses created, and the fact that the Allocation Table can be regularly 
published. Actual measurements can be taken (if the wireless monitoring people 
are given proper equipment, a deadline, and the motivation to get out into the 
field and do the job for which they are being paid) as well, on a graduated 
scale of regularity depending on the location. Meaning, we should get numbers we 
can live with, inside of a year, and finetune them on an ongoing basis. 

But without waiting to go there, surely the country (world's greatest IT 
superpower seems to indicate we should know something about technology) deserves 
to hear that pragmatic alternatives to doing things the old way exist?

In an answer in Parliament, Minister of State for Planning etc (his full title 
reads like one of those old maharaja names that go on for ever) Narayanasamy 
stated unequivocally that UIDAI has got equipment vendors to rejig their devices 
(presumably rewrite the device drivers) to comply with UIDAI's vision of a 
multi-platform enrolment system. I don't think it is overly jingoistic to 
believe that the Nokia's, Ericsson's and Huawei's of the world would fall over 
themselves to produce radio equipment designed for versatility, flexibility and 
optimal spectrum usage, instead of only sticking to inappropriate (for us) GSM 
and CDMA specs, in order to fuel our communications revolution. We can send the 
old equipment to the US or somewhere still stuck in the old world. Delhi, for 
instance. 
 Vickram
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Banibrata Dutta | 2 Dec 2010 07:20
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India Patent Office - draft Manual for Practise and Procedures -- up for review

Hi,


India Patent Office (http://www.patentoffice.nic.in/) has called for a review by stake holders (and I'd say it includes general public), of it's new/revised Manual of Practise and Procedure for Patent Office. The purpose that this document serves is (as per the Manual itself) :-

This manual has been compiled with an intention to codify the practices and
procedures being followed by the Indian Patent Office and is intended to serve as
a procedural guide for the practitioners and other users of the Indian Patent
System. Judicial decisions on the procedural matters have also been included.

Any comments/suggestions on the revised draft may be sent to sukhdeep.ipo <at> nic.in latest by 4th December 2010. The Manual will be finalised before 31st December 2010 Revised Manual [http://www.patentoffice.nic.in/ipr/patent/Revised_DraftManual_PatentOffice_04November2010.pdf]

Just saw this from a NASSCOM Emerge mailer. Folks on this list may be interested in responding.

--
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Banibrata
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Ramnarayan.K | 4 Dec 2010 16:58
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Quid pro quo or tit for tat - Pakistan' hackers target India's top police agency

So a few days after so called "indian" hackers had a laugh now its
time for our friendly neighbor"hoods" to have a laugh
and in the meanwhile we must wonder how safe sensitive data is.

Pakistan' hackers target India's top police agency

By Penny MacRae (AFP) – 2 hours ago

NEW DELHI — Cyber-attackers who identified themselves as the "Pakistan
Cyber Army" have hacked the website of India's top police agency,
officials said on Saturday.

The website of the Central Bureau of Investigation (CBI) was hacked by
programmers who left a message saying that the attack was in revenge
for similar Indian assaults on Pakistani sites, Press Trust of India
said.

Link
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jFVJWh2e2-i7-ll6pAuGUOsETcbQ?docId=CNG.eb6f793d7e091dc5315bb6b6cbcea713.551
The hackers signed their message on the Indian police website: "Long
Live Pakistan."

CBI authorities said they were working to restore the site, which
offered information to the public.

The spokeswoman said she could not comment on Indian media reports
that more than 200 other Indian sites had also been attacked by
Pakistani hackers.

"We came to know the CBI site had been compromised Friday night," the
spokeswoman told AFP, asking not to be named. "It will take us a
couple of days to restore the site."

She said she could not immediately say who was responsible for the attack.

The CBI has "registered a case" and is investigating the attack, she said.

The message posted on the CBI site said the attack was "in response to
the Pakistani websites hacked by 'Indian Cyber Army'," the Press Trust
of India (PTI) reported.

"Hacked hahaa funny," the message said. "Let us see what you
investigating agency so called CBI can do" (sic).

Hackers had also infiltrated the server of the National Informatics
Centre (NIC), which maintains most of the government's websites, PTI
reported.

In August, a group also calling itself the "Pakistan Cyber Army"
hacked into the website of independent Indian MP Vijay Mallya, a
flamboyant liquor baron, who is also head of Kingfisher Airlines.

The group claims to have hacked a number of Indian websites in recent
years, including India's state-run Oil and Natural Gas Corporation, in
retaliation for Indian hackers accessing Pakistan sites.

Indian IT specialists have long lamented what they say is a lack of
awareness about Internet security across the country, including in the
corridors of power.

Sunil Abraham, executive director of the Bangalore-based Centre for
Internet and Society, said it would have been easy for attackers to
get into the CBI public site as it was "not a particularly sensitive"
one.

The Indian government "has a very low level of cyber awareness and
cyber security. We don't take cyber security as seriously as the rest
of the world," he said.

He added that the government needed to "make at least 10 times the
current level of investment to get their standards to match the rest
of the world."

According to the Indian Computer Emergency Response Team, a government
agency that tracks IT security issues, more than 3,600 Indian websites
were hacked in the first six months of this year.

Copyright © 2010 AFP
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Frederick Noronha | 4 Dec 2010 19:23
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Fwd: Spectrum Management

A list-member sent me this URL offlist... FN

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PS: I'm not lobbying for anyone, at least not now, and not consciously :-)

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Frederick,

> Sorry for asking a basic question -- what then are the options in
> spectrum management? Should there be "management" in the first place?
> Or is this just too loaded a question? FN

It's a very good and difficult question.   Farber & Faulhaber proposed
this, which I like:

http://assets.wharton.upenn.edu/~faulhabe/SPECTRUM_MANAGEMENTv51.pdf

(I'm not sure about the list policies, etc. and am mostly lurking, so
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Vickram Crishna | 5 Dec 2010 09:57
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The writers seem to see some value left in fitting an open spectrum regime 
within the concept of spectrum as property, by defining a sort of agile use akin 
to (their analogy) an aircraft flying overhead: it occupies your own land, but 
at a distance above that is deemed to be too far for you to bother (apparently 
1000 feet in the US, I have no idea whether this is a general aviation rule) or 
for anyone to care if you are bothered, more accurately. For the spectrum, it 
means that someone's agile radios may be using bits and pieces of spectrum that 
you have been allocated (ie, 'own') but since it is very weak, your own 
receivers (and those within reach) will treat such signalling as background 
noise. 

If one is willing to bend one's concepts of ownership and commons to this 
extent, I don't see the great difficulty in localising an economic form where 
monetising greed is no longer an option. Greed may continue, but it won't 
directly result in any small number of persons aggregating all of the 
transferable wealth. The big problem is of course that the persons charged with 
effecting any such change are those most directly affected by removal of their 
current methods of accumulating wealth. The smartest of them of course are only 
interested in accumulating power. 

It may seem a bit OT, but without some serious form of understanding of what 
drives our actions, we are doomed to continue muddling our way through basic 
errors of navigation. And of course the only way to devalue the concept of money 
is to remove the accumulation of cash as a meaningful goal, by substituting all 
forms of income and wealth taxes with straightforward anonymised transaction 
taxes, each so minor that the transactors don't care, plus they are no loner 
subject to identification, and removing all possibility of alternate 
transactions by switching fully to electronic money.

I see this alternative as a form of enabling village level entrepreneurship 
hitherto unavailable to the rural dweller - one that mimics or parallels urban 
societal occupations in many ways - creative, commercial, and supportive, while 
removing the tendency of owners to hobble their audience's ability to 
communicate freely.    

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> A list-member sent me this URL offlist... FN
> 
> Frederick Noronha ::  +91-9822122436 :: +91-832-2409490
> 
> PS: I'm not lobbying for anyone, at  least not now, and not consciously :-)
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> Frederick,
> 
> > Sorry for asking a basic question --  what then are the options in
> > spectrum management? Should there be  "management" in the first place?
> > Or is this just too loaded a question?  FN
> 
> It's a very good and difficult question.   Farber & Faulhaber  proposed
> this, which I like:
> 
> http://assets.wharton.upenn.edu/~faulhabe/SPECTRUM_MANAGEMENTv51.pdf
> 
> (I'm  not sure about the list policies, etc. and am mostly lurking, so
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Pillai: The Real Radia Tapes Are Coming ... He said the government has about 6,000 to 8,000 wiretaps happening at any point, and only about 3% to 5% of them are for corporate or white-collar investigations.

http://blogs.wsj.com/indiarealtime/2010/12/06/pillai-the-real-radia-tapes-are-coming/

December 6, 2010, 4:16 PM IST

Pillai: The Real Radia Tapes Are Coming

By Amol Sharma

Indian Home Secretary G.K. Pillai said he gave the go-ahead to bug
Niira Radia’s phone to further a tax-evasion investigation. So you
think you’ve already heard the damning evidence in 2G-Gate,
Radia-Gate, Barkha-Gate, Raja-Gate, or whatever you want to call it?

Well, think again.

Indian Home Secretary G.K. Pillai said in an interview to the Wall
Street Journal that the roughly 100 tapes that have been leaked to the
Indian media – recordings of wiretapped calls between corporate
lobbyist Niira Radia and the country’s journalistic and political
power brokers – barely scratch the surface of the stuff that will be
at the heart of the government’s investigation.

The tapes that have come out contain only “juicy elements” meant by
the leakers to “titillate” the media, he said, while the remaining
5,000-plus recordings contain the details that will actually assist
investigators as they draw up formal charges against wrongdoers.

“The investigation part is much more, which has not yet come out,”
said Mr. Pillai, the top bureaucrat in the Home Ministry, which
oversees domestic security issues and approves wiretap requests by
central government agencies. “The parts that have come out aren’t
really connected to the investigation.”

What’s gotten the most attention from the calls released thus far, as
India Real Time has reported in detail, are questions of media ethics
and integrity stemming from the dealings Hindustan Times columnist Vir
Sanghvi and NDTV group editor Barkha Dutt had with Ms. Radia; a trove
of conversations on the formation of the Indian Cabinet last year; and
the Ambani brothers’ feud.

Apparently none of that has anything to do with the legal case going
forward. Mr. Pillai said he gave the go-ahead to bug Ms. Radia’s phone
to further a tax-evasion investigation. Asked how that probe is
connected to the controversial allocation of so-called 2G mobile phone
spectrum in 2008, he would only say that the potentially illegal
movement of funds in and out of India is being scrutinized closely. He
declined to offer further specifics on who will likely be charged and
for what specifically.

One of Ms. Radia’s public relations firms, Vaishnavi Group, has said
that the company is “fully transparent” and that the lobbyist is
cooperating with financial authorities. The firm declined to
immediately comment further on Monday.

Mr. Pillai said the leaking of the Radia tapes has spooked India’s
corporate establishment, with honchos of India Inc. now calling him to
find out if they, too, are being tapped. (Tata Group Chairman Ratan
Tata, whose firm is one of Ms. Radia’s clients, has told India’s
Supreme Court that the disclosure of recordings of his personal
conversations with her that were totally unrelated to the government’s
probe violated his privacy.)

Mr. Pillai said the fears of widespread wiretapping are much
exaggerated and that he follows strict guidelines in approving any
surveillance.

He said the government has about 6,000 to 8,000 wiretaps happening at
any point, and only about 3% to 5% of them are for corporate or
white-collar investigations.

Investigators must show him some evidence that a suspect has done
something illegal – a document, an email, a bank statement.

Each wiretap can go for a maximum of 60 days before his approval must
be sought again. And Mr. Pillai’s authorizations are reviewed every
two weeks by a board including the telecom secretary, Cabinet
secretary and law secretary, he says.

Meanwhile, elected politicians at both the state and central
government levels are not wiretapped as a matter of policy, he says.
The only way investigators could hear their conversations is if they
happened to be caught on the other end of the line talking to a bugged
individual, as happened when Ms. Radia had phone conversations with
former telecom minister A. Raja about the status of his position in
the cabinet appointments that followed last year’s election. (Those
calls were among those that were leaked.)

Mr. Pillai said he is concerned that the Radia tapes leaked and is
awaiting the results of a government inquiry into how the disclosure
happened.

But he said all the Radia tapes will likely become public at some
point anyway, since the Supreme Court has asked for a full set of
copies and can be petitioned to release them eventually. Then, “you
can’t do pick and choose,” he said. “Everything will come out.”

Recd via ZestMedia. --FN
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Tarun Dua | 7 Dec 2010 04:08

Re: Quid pro quo or tit for tat - Pakistan' hackers target India's top police agency

On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 9:28 PM, Ramnarayan.K <ramnarayan.k@...> wrote:
> So a few days after so called "indian" hackers had a laugh now its
> time for our friendly neighbor"hoods" to have a laugh
> and in the meanwhile we must wonder how safe sensitive data is.
That is needlessly melodramatic.
-Tarun
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Ramnarayan.K | 7 Dec 2010 17:16
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Info pirates seek an alternative internet

There are two articles, related, one is posted below  and for the
other a link is provided.

 Its quite clear that the debate about "various freedoms" is
intensifying and the response from most of the countries , whose
untidy beans are being spilled has been to do what they have always
wanted to do "curtail more freedom" in the name of better security.
and then go after the messenger. That in their pursuit of "so called
criminals " extraordinary efforts and political maneuvering is
undertaken only highlights the scare that wikileaks is causing among
the "affected" . Wish they would show the same sense of urgency when
it comes to all the criminals and murderers and scamsters who hide
behind political doors and corporate fences .

One wishes for a lot more Julian Assanges and a lot more
wikileblowers, but what seems s sure is that we should see a lot more
information being spilled onto the net now that people know that there
are ways and means and possibly more knowledge about how to do it
safely and anonymously, including the use of snail mail.

1. Info pirates seek an alternative internet
2. Wikileaks defended by Anonymous hacktivists
(http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-11935539)

Info pirates seek an alternative internet
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn19816-info-pirates-seek-an-alternative-internet.html?DCMP=OTC-rss&nsref=online-news
    * 17:23 06 December 2010 by Paul Marks

After dumping thousands of secret US diplomatic cables in the public
domain last week, WikiLeaks ended up losing its web hosting company –
twice – and its wikileaks.org web domain to boot as providers got cold
feet about its content. But a plan being hatched by fellow travellers
in the file-sharing community may shield the controversial data dumper
from such takedowns in future.

It all started with a tweet on 28 November: "Hello all ISPs of the
world. We're going to add a new competing root-server since we're
tired of ICANN. Please contact me to help."

This missive, complaining about the Internet Corporation for Assigned
Names and Numbers, was from Peter Sunde, an anti-copyright activist
based in Sweden and one of the founders of The Pirate Bay website,
which tracks the locations of copyrighted movie and music BitTorrent
files. It instantly lit a flame among file-sharers. "That small tweet
turned into a lot of interest," Sunde blogged two days later. "We
haven't organised yet, but are trying to… we want the internet to be
uncensored. Having a centralised system that controls our information
flow is not acceptable."
Taken down on a whim

What's their beef? The file-sharers believe that ICANN, which controls
the internet's domain name system (DNS), takes down web domains at the
whim of politicians and industry bosses, if they are considered to
infringe the law. The DNS is effectively a phone book for the net, a
look-up table which converts a website's URL into a machine-readable
IP address that locates the relevant server and brings users their
requested page. The DNS comprises 13 large registry computers, called
root servers, dotted around the world. Each holds an identical copy of
the internet's master look-up table. If a domain is deemed illegal,
ICANN can render it useless by simply steering traffic away from it.

Sunde has lost at least one domain this way, seeing it taken over by
music trade body the International Federation of the Phonographic
Industry and, with others, faces a huge fine and prison for running
The Pirate Bay. The wikileaks.org domain name was lost last week when
the provider, EveryDNS, terminated it.

So activists, led by Sunde, hope to construct an alternative registry:
one that will initially work like existing systems, but which in the
long run will become a decentralised, peer-to-peer (P2P) system in
which volunteers each run a portion of a DNS on their own computers.
By breaking up the internet phone book and hosting it in pieces, they
will strip ICANN of its power. Any domain it tries to take away will
still be accessible on the alternative registry.
Eminently feasible

The exercise that Sunde and his colleagues are undertaking - if it
ever gets off the ground - is reminiscent of Search Wikia, an attempt
to make a distributed ad-free search engine to rival Google. Run by
Wikipedia founder Jimmy Wales, the site aimed to be open and honest
about its search algorithm, so that advertisers couldn't exploit
loopholes in it for unfair advantage. But with its index spread around
a few thousand volunteer servers, it could not reach anything like
Google's scale or speed, and folded its tent in April 2009.

Oddly, Wikia - the parent company of Wikipedia - owns the domain names
wikileaks.net, wikileaks.com and wikileaks.us - for reasons not yet
clear. They expire in January.

Ben Laurie, a London-based security consultant and a former technical
adviser to WikiLeaks, thinks the alternative internet idea is
eminently feasible. "Technically, this is all pretty easy. What they
have put together already is really quite professional. Persuading
everybody to use it is going to be the difficult bit. Why should
people trust it more than ICANN's root server?"

He thinks WikiLeaks is the kind of premium content that could convince
people to take it up. If it works, a sort of "shadow internet" could
form, one in which legal action against counterfeiters and copyright
scofflaws would be nearly impossible.
Whose internet?

Still, ICANN does a lot of work managing the 280 top level domains –
such as .com and .org plus the 248 national suffixes – and the
frequent changes made to them. "A lot of people think ICANN is a waste
of time, and I often agree, but it does some important things these
people will not be able to," says Laurie.

Indeed. The back story to all this is that Sunde and colleagues Carl
Lundstrom and Fredrik Neij, on 26 November lost an appeal in the
Swedish courts and face a £4.2 million fine - and prison terms varying
from four to 10 months - for running the Pirate Bay. They are now
making a final appeal to Sweden's Supreme Court.

Laurie feels ICANN's proprietorial attitude to the net needs
challenging. He recalls a manager from one of ICANN's political
overseers, the US Department of Commerce, collaring him at an Internet
Engineering Task Force meeting. "I've come to find out what you are
doing with my internet," she said. That's an attitude the P2P DNS
crowd will surely be hoping to change.
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