Satish Jha | 28 Nov 04:17 2007

Re: Time zones? Doesn't it make sense?

Thought given the focus of this group, prima facie it may seem OT. However,flattening the peaks is a challenge across all utilities, including power, telecom, internet etc..
 
There are many ways of dealing with it and several countries have changed the way they organise their work by bringing in flexibility in the time people may choose to work-called flexitime.. or use technologies that are efficient, increase capacity if they can, improve throughput etc.. Time zones were not designed to address such a situation.. day light saver in climates where sun means sheer joy..
 
We need to be a bit more innovative in dealing with these issues.. There are too many issues with creating time zones and given the chaos we live with, its not something we may be ready for as yet..

On Nov 27, 2007 3:12 PM, Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोंया <fredericknoronha <at> gmail.com> wrote:
Proposal for 2 time zones dropped

By RAMESH RAMACHANDRAN

New Delhi, Nov. 27: The Standing Committee on Energy has abandoned its
suggestion for different time zones for checking the peak shortages
and saving daylight. It has, instead, asked the ministry of power to
consider different "working hours" for the states in the east and west
of the country.

The parliamentary committee agreed with the ministry of power's
contention that introducing more than one time zone may pose practical
problems on account of "low literacy level" in the country. The
committee has given the ministry six months to come up with a solution
of the problem.

There exists a time difference between Arunachal Pradesh and Gujarat
of about two hours but there is only a single Indian Standard Time
(IST) for the whole country.

The Standing Committee on Energy, chaired by Mr Gurudas Kamat of the
Congress party, on Monday said in a report that adopting different
time zones in the country may also affect departments like Railways,
transport and aviation, Indian Meteorology Department, and
communication.

"More than one time zone will involve many difficulties in arriving at
a consensus to this effect between various players like state
governments and various ministries," the report read, while not
drastically improving the saving of daylight hours or keeping the peak
shortages in check.

The Standing Committee on Energy had suggested the ministry of power
to consider other solutions like having different time zones for the
country and staggering the office timings and school timings by about
one or two hours so that peak hour shortages were also staggered. The
peak power shortages have increased from 11.8 per cent in 2001-2002 to
13.9 per cent in 2006-2007. The ministry, in its reply to the
committee, relied on the views of a panel constituted by the secretary
of the department of science and technology to examine relevant
issues. The panel comprised the representatives of certain public
sector organisations like the National Physical Laboratory (NPL.)

The ministry cited the NPL as saying that there will be no drastic
improvement by incorporating two time zones. The NPL felt that "a more
pragmatic way" may be that the eastern states resort to time schedule
of 8 am to 4.20 pm and the western states follow a time schedule of 9
am to 5.30 pm.

"Instead of adopting different time zones in India, people in various
parts of the country should change their lifestyle by adjusting their
timings of their own regions. This is an easier way to address the
problem rather than to have different time zones in different parts of
India," the ministry of power reasoned.

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Sashikumar N | 28 Nov 08:35 2007
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Re: Time zones? Doesn't it make sense?

As i traveled to some of the border states in East (West Bengal & NE),
I noted even though sun rise is early (5.0 am in some cases), like
rest of India the government offices open at 10.0 am! and due to early
sun set again, they leave office early. I don't know why they can't
open office early. Another odd thing Bangladesh is 30  mins (GMT + 6
hrs) ahead of us and our states on either side of Bangladesh follows
IST (GMT + 5.30 hrs). Telling people to change lifestyle is not a
solution, I think one way to induce this change is to have different
time zones.

regards
sashi

On Nov 28, 2007 1:42 AM, Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोंया
<fredericknoronha <at> gmail.com> wrote:
> Proposal for 2 time zones dropped
>
> By RAMESH RAMACHANDRAN
>
> New Delhi, Nov. 27: The Standing Committee on Energy has abandoned its
> suggestion for different time zones for checking the peak shortages
> and saving daylight. It has, instead, asked the ministry of power to
> consider different "working hours" for the states in the east and west
> of the country.
>
> The parliamentary committee agreed with the ministry of power's
> contention that introducing more than one time zone may pose practical
> problems on account of "low literacy level" in the country. The
> committee has given the ministry six months to come up with a solution
> of the problem.
>
> There exists a time difference between Arunachal Pradesh and Gujarat
> of about two hours but there is only a single Indian Standard Time
> (IST) for the whole country.
>
> The Standing Committee on Energy, chaired by Mr Gurudas Kamat of the
> Congress party, on Monday said in a report that adopting different
> time zones in the country may also affect departments like Railways,
> transport and aviation, Indian Meteorology Department, and
> communication.
>
> "More than one time zone will involve many difficulties in arriving at
> a consensus to this effect between various players like state
> governments and various ministries," the report read, while not
> drastically improving the saving of daylight hours or keeping the peak
> shortages in check.
>
> The Standing Committee on Energy had suggested the ministry of power
> to consider other solutions like having different time zones for the
> country and staggering the office timings and school timings by about
> one or two hours so that peak hour shortages were also staggered. The
> peak power shortages have increased from 11.8 per cent in 2001-2002 to
> 13.9 per cent in 2006-2007. The ministry, in its reply to the
> committee, relied on the views of a panel constituted by the secretary
> of the department of science and technology to examine relevant
> issues. The panel comprised the representatives of certain public
> sector organisations like the National Physical Laboratory (NPL.)
>
> The ministry cited the NPL as saying that there will be no drastic
> improvement by incorporating two time zones. The NPL felt that "a more
> pragmatic way" may be that the eastern states resort to time schedule
> of 8 am to 4.20 pm and the western states follow a time schedule of 9
> am to 5.30 pm.
>
> "Instead of adopting different time zones in India, people in various
> parts of the country should change their lifestyle by adjusting their
> timings of their own regions. This is an easier way to address the
> problem rather than to have different time zones in different parts of
> India," the ministry of power reasoned.
>
> --
> Frederick Noronha http://fn.goa-india.org Ph +91-832-2409490
> 12000+ downloadable, sharable hi-res photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/
> PLEASE READ, a story on what's possible when there's a marriage
> between the Right to Information and media:
> The Indian Navy's deadly aircraft (The Mint)
> http://www.livemint.com/2007/11/26013747/The-Indian-Navy8217s-deadly.html
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