headers
Suresh Ramasubramanian | 1 Aug 2004 04:28
Favicon
Gravatar

Re: why not IPv6?

Ayyasamy, Senthilkumar  (UMKC-Student) [31/07/04 14:04 -0500]:

> The IPv6 can be found in press articles, presentations
> from microsoft, DARPA reports and vendor supported 
> forums - not in operational networks.

except for a few exceptions like say NTT/Verio.

As for when IPv4 is going to die out, that's at least 30..40 years in the
future, not "tomorrow or in the very near future, so trash ipv4" as a whole
lot of people have been fond of claiming, much as you see people with huge
placards proclaiming that the end of the world is near, and urging you to
repent ...

	srs

--

-- 
Suresh Ramasubramanian | suresh <at> hserus.net | gpg EDEDEFB9
email sturmbahnfuehrer | lower middle class unix sysadmin
___________________________
india-gii mailing list: https://ssl.cpsr.org/mailman/listinfo/india-gii
india-gii archives: https://ssl.cpsr.org/pipermail/india-gii/
Computer Professionals for Social Responsibility: http://www.cpsr.org/
Permalink | Reply | 0 comments |
headers
Suresh Ramasubramanian | 1 Aug 2004 04:34
Favicon
Gravatar

Re: why not IPv6?

Arun Mehta [30/07/04 20:29 +0530]:
> The site talks about the South Asian IPv6 Summit at Bangalore, India -- The
> next summit at Bangalore is scheduled for Jan 15 to Jan 22 2004. Apart from
> that, how much is the forum doing? 
> 
> Now, without getting too technical, why do we sneer at IPv6 this way? Is it
> because it is unnecessary, and needlessly going to cost lots of money?

Not exactly sneering at it. More like "ipv4 is not going to go away all that
soon, and it is not going to be practical to flip a switch and proclaim that
india is going to be v6 ready in 2006"

and neither is v6 a cureall for "security" and various other real or imagined
ills that affect the v4 internet.

Most countries that are far farther along the v6 road than we are (hell, the
v6forum in India doesnt have a v6 address, only a v4 address) ... and to make
the claims that Dayanidhi Maran has been making is foolhardy, to say the
least.

ipv6forum.org.in.       86400   IN      A       203.197.173.225
;ipv6forum.org.in.              IN      AAAA

--

-- 
Suresh Ramasubramanian | suresh <at> hserus.net | gpg EDEDEFB9
email sturmbahnfuehrer | lower middle class unix sysadmin
___________________________
india-gii mailing list: https://ssl.cpsr.org/mailman/listinfo/india-gii
india-gii archives: https://ssl.cpsr.org/pipermail/india-gii/
Computer Professionals for Social Responsibility: http://www.cpsr.org/
(Continue reading)

Permalink | Reply | 0 comments |
headers
Ayyasamy, Senthilkumar (UMKC-Student | 1 Aug 2004 04:53
Picon
Favicon

RE: why not IPv6?


>> The IPv6 can be found in press articles, presentations from 
>> microsoft,DARPA reports and vendor supported forums - not 
>> in operational networks.
>
>except for a few exceptions like say NTT/Verio.

yes. actually even more http://www.cidr-report.org/v6/
I was wrong about IPv6 use in operational networks.

But, a lot of them do dual stack (both IPv6 and IPv4)
or teredo( IPv6/NAT)planning for a full fledged IPv6
exit strategy. This will only encourage living with 
IPv4 not use IPv6.

___________________________
india-gii mailing list: https://ssl.cpsr.org/mailman/listinfo/india-gii
india-gii archives: https://ssl.cpsr.org/pipermail/india-gii/
Computer Professionals for Social Responsibility: http://www.cpsr.org/
Permalink | Reply | 0 comments |
headers
Pradeep Chandran | 2 Aug 2004 06:28
Picon
Favicon

Re: TouchtelDSL experiences

Arun Mehta wrote:

> I use Touchtel DXL in New Delhi, and firstly, my wife is thrilled. She hated dialup, the cable connection
was iffy -- she noticed the improvement real quick.
> 
> My reaction? the bandwidth is better than dialup, but folks -- this isn't broadband. But you know what: for
now, I don't care, since I immediately got a WiFi router. My advice to anyone who owns a laptop and has a DSL
connection: run, don't walk, to the phone and order WiFi. If you've got a desktop too, or more machines than
that, go for the router. Mine has 4 Ethernet ports, DSL modem, 802.11g (don't get 802.11b -- is on its way
out, its hardware available at throw-away prices, compatible with g but much slower) and cost Rs. 12.5 K
two months ago. This is indeed networking for dummies.

Is 802.11g legal in India? I mean is the usage of this spectrum legal?

Have a nice day,
Pradeep
--

-- 
Knowledge is power. Power corrupts.
Study hard, be evil.
___________________________
india-gii mailing list: https://ssl.cpsr.org/mailman/listinfo/india-gii
india-gii archives: https://ssl.cpsr.org/pipermail/india-gii/
Computer Professionals for Social Responsibility: http://www.cpsr.org/
Permalink | Reply | 1 comment |
headers
Deepak Maheshwari | 2 Aug 2004 06:46

A new chapter in India's Telecom Regulation : TRAI puts on the web responses to its consultation paper regarding 'Spectrum'

Most regulators have such practice to offer an opportunity to the
stakeholders to respond to others' comments.

http://www.trai.gov.in/listofcomments30-7.htm

Though TRAI has not mentioned explicitly the underlying reason for putting
these documents on the web, the intent seems similar. A clear time-frame for
comments is in order.

Regards,

Deepak Maheshwari

___________________________
india-gii mailing list: https://ssl.cpsr.org/mailman/listinfo/india-gii
india-gii archives: https://ssl.cpsr.org/pipermail/india-gii/
Computer Professionals for Social Responsibility: http://www.cpsr.org/
Permalink | Reply | 0 comments |
headers
Arun Mehta | 2 Aug 2004 08:44
Picon

software export growth 15%, ITES 57%

not much, 15% in Rupees, not by the standards of this industry. What happened? Are our resources being
diverted to ITES? That, to me, sounds like moving down the value chain, not up.
Arun
___________
http://sify.com/finance/fullstory.php?id=13534352&headline=Software~exports~surge~25%~in~
Software exports surge 25% in '04
Sunday, 01 August , 2004, 13:38

India's software and services exports registered 25 per cent year-on-year growth in 2003-04, according
to estimates by Electronics and Computer Software Export Promotion Council.

"There has been a sustained increase in the exports of computer software and services from the country
despite the resistance from the developed countries to Business Process Outsourcing," ESC executive
director D K Sareen said in a statement.

According to the ESC estimates, export of IT enabled Services increased by 57.14 per cent to Rs 16,500 crore
during 2003-04 from Rs 10,500 crore in 2002-03. It, however, fell marginally short of the targeted Rs
17,198 crore.

Export of software and services grew 15.28 per cent to Rs 41,500 crore in 2003-04 against Rs 36,000 crore a
year earlier.

Software and services comprise 88 per cent of India's total IT exports.

During 2003-04, India's electronic hardware export touched Rs 7,700 crore against Rs 5,600 crore during
the previous year, the ESC statement said. 

___________________________
india-gii mailing list: https://ssl.cpsr.org/mailman/listinfo/india-gii
india-gii archives: https://ssl.cpsr.org/pipermail/india-gii/
(Continue reading)

Permalink | Reply | 0 comments |
headers
Arun Mehta | 2 Aug 2004 08:54
Picon

big mobile business from BSNL

Nokia, Nortel, Alcatel... does it make sense to stock spares from three vendors, and learn their software? 
And how are Siemens, Motorola and Ericsson doing? Not to mention the Japanese, Chinese and Koreans... is
the market big enough for so many vendors? If software is a major part of the cost of the switch, shouldn't
huge economies of scale suggest some serious consolidation in the years to come?
Arun
http://sify.com/finance/fullstory.php?id=13534350&headline=Nokia~likely~to~snap~up~BSNL~tender
Nokia likely to snap up BSNL tender
Sunday, 01 August , 2004, 13:30

Finnish telecom equipment vendor Nokia is believed to be the front-runner to bag the state-run BSNL's Rs
6000-crore cellular operation expansions tender for northern India while Nortel is likely to get
Eastern and Southern regions.

The contract for Western region has already been awarded to Alcatel-ITI.

The announcement of the winner of the orders are to be made soon, sources said.

The Northern region may go to Nokia while Nortel may get the remaining region of East and South, they said.

The actual price quoted by both the providers could not be known.

As per the bidding clause, a company can be awarded the contract for a maximum of two regions. According to
sources, Nortel bid lowest in the three regions and Nokia was the second lowest in two regions.

BSNL, the country's largest telecom firm, is expanding its mobile networks and had floated a tender of 11
million GSM lines.

BSNL is expected to exhaust 15 million GSM lines by December 2005 and a user base of 25 million customers. 

___________________________
(Continue reading)

Permalink | Reply | 0 comments |
headers
Arun Mehta | 2 Aug 2004 09:02
Picon

how much Microsoft work done in India?

I don't think 2000 people working for Microsoft here is large at all, and I don't doubt that the company will
continue to do almost all core development in Redmond. Yet, it is interesting that the company is so
defensive about it. Do we know more about this from other sources?
Arun
______
http://inhome.rediff.com/money/2004/jul/31micro.htm
Microsoft shifting jobs, work to India

Meenakshi Ganjoo in Silicon Valley | July 31, 2004 11:31 IST

Microsoft is shifting high-level work such as the next version of Windows Operating System to foreign
contractors, including Indians, a Seattle-based labour union has claimed.

The Washington Alliance of Technology Workers (WashTech) said it has obtained internal company
documents that show that Microsoft now employs nearly 2,000 workers in India, double the 970 number it
previously acknowledged.

Microsoft, however, disputed the notion, saying it doesn't use contractors for core development.

WashTech alleges the documents show that while Microsoft employs 970 full-time direct employees in
India, there are an additional 1,100 people working for the company in India under contracts with
outsourcing firms, bringing Microsoft's total presence in the country to more than 2,000 people.

WashTech, which wants to unionize Microsoft employees, is one of the most vocal critics of offshore
outsourcing, a hot-button in the current presidential campaign.

The documents include wage lists and projects for Microsoft at Infosys, Wipro, Satyam and Tata
Consultancy Services.

The internal documents, WashTech said, suggest that the contractors and employees are involved in
(Continue reading)

Permalink | Reply | 1 comment |
headers
Arun Mehta | 2 Aug 2004 09:10

how does the new AP government follow Naidu's footsteps?

It sets up committees, that's how. Did I tell you guys this joke I heard from C Northcote Parkinson, about how
committees are like a visit to the toilet? First there is a sitting, then a report, then the matter is
allowed to drop...

But the new CM is talking the same sort of language that Naidu used. Interesting, the bit about the fab. I'm in
favour, provided they rope in the educational institutions and get kids to learn how to make ICs.
Arun
________
http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2004/08/02/stories/2004080201321300.htm
 AP Govt sets up `think tanks' for tech sector

Our Bureau

Hyderabad , Aug. 1

THE Andhra Pradesh Government has created three separate `think tanks' in the areas of IT services, ITES
(BPO) and hardware sectors to look into specific requirements and help the State chart out necessary
policy changes.

The Andhra Pradesh Chief Minister, Dr Y.S. Rajashekara Reddy, said, "These `think tanks' will have
representatives from the Government and industry and work towards formulating a new strategy to boost
these sector. Information technology sector is amongst the fastest growing sector and there is huge
untapped potential. We need to further boost the sector, particularly in the areas of BPO and hardware,
the latter is often neglected."

Speaking at the meeting to launch the SDE Prameela Techno Park, which has been taken up by Satyam Computer,
Dr Reddy said the Nasscom-KPMG study has projected significant opportunity for growth of the IT sector in
the State, which can be addressed by providing the necessary human resource base as also real estate support.

Dr Reddy said, "We are exploring the possibility of locating a FAB Semiconductor foundry in the State.
(Continue reading)

Permalink | Reply | 0 comments |
headers
Suresh Ramasubramanian | 2 Aug 2004 09:12
Favicon
Gravatar

Re: how much Microsoft work done in India?

Arun Mehta wrote:

> One contract with Infosys Technologies is described as 'Longhorn Migration Guide,' and one with Wipro
Ltd describes testing for Longhorn and other products.

Bah. QA testing and documentation - most if not all of it low level 
scutwork.

--

-- 
Suresh Ramasubramanian | suresh@... | gpg EDEDEFB9
email sturmbahnfuehrer | lower middle class unix sysadmin
___________________________
india-gii mailing list: https://ssl.cpsr.org/mailman/listinfo/india-gii
india-gii archives: https://ssl.cpsr.org/pipermail/india-gii/
Computer Professionals for Social Responsibility: http://www.cpsr.org/
Permalink | Reply | 0 comments |

Gmane