Ravi V Prasad | 18 Oct 2002 15:57
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Information Society & New Economy

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Dear Ravi,

this is to remind that deadline for chapters
submission for our forthcoming
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sabrina syed | 18 Oct 2002 21:26
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Digital dividends -Jhai PC-Laos

I haven't checked, but presuming this is not yet
posted as news on list.
Read some where this one costs around 400 US dollars.

-sabrina.

"Jhai PC is a project of non-government organisation
(NGO), Jhai Foundation. "

"Jhai Computer and Communication System Stage One: 
What we are trying to do is give five remote villages,
which have no electricity or phones, a means of
communication and the use of simple business tools.
Each village will have a Jhai computer connected in a
network with the other villages that connects to the
internet and to our high school-based Internet
Learning Centers. 

These villagers can use these Jhai computers to
communicate in the Lao language by email and by voice
with each other and with others, for example, people
who buy their products in Vientiane and our staff in
the United States. The Jhai computers will also
provide them with the opportunity to do simple
business functions like writing documents and creating
spreadsheets for budgetary and simple accounting
purposes. 

The design team is headed by Lee Felsenstein assisted
by Mark Summer. The software is LINUX-based and is
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Frederick Noronha | 18 Oct 2002 20:20

NEWS-LUCKNOW: Vajpayee to launch state-run cellular service

Vajpayee to launch state-run cellular service Saturday

By Sharat Pradhan, Indo-Asian News Service

Lucknow, Oct 18 (IANS) Cellular telephony will take a giant leap forward
Saturday when Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee inaugurates the mobile
service of state-owned Bharat Sanchar Nigam Limited (BSNL) that aims to
cover 850 cities before the year is out.

The service, which aims at garnering a staggering four million subscribers
within the next 10 weeks, is being launched from Vajpayee's political
constituency here. India currently has eight million cellular phone users.

Vajpayee, who arrives here Saturday, will also inaugurate a Rs. 1.4 billion
petroleum complex and an optical fibre link connecting Delhi and the
country's commercial capital of Mumbai.

The petroleum complex includes an extension of the Haldia-Barauni-Kanpur gas
pipeline and "will cater to the local needs in and around Lucknow", said
A.N.Jha, spokesman for the Indian Oil Corporation that has set it up.

BSNL has invested Rs. 25 billion in the cellular service.

"As many as 1.5 million connections will be released in the first phase,
while 2.5 million will follow by the end of this year," a senior BSNL
official told IANS, speaking on condition of anonymity.

"Our target is to cover 850 Indian cities by the end of this year." As part
of this, 50 districts in Uttar Pradesh will be covered in the first phase
and the remaining 20 by the end of the year.
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Arun kumar garg | 19 Oct 2002 08:13

ICT penetration in rural india


 A lot of initiatives have started for promotion of ICT penetration in 
india e.g tarahaat,n-logue,mssrf,gyandoot,bhoomi,ITC,mahindra,tata etc. 
and many others.
I want to know what is the ground reality related to these projects.Are 
people actually benefitting from these projects?
Most of the related activities is concentrated in more progressive 
southern state whereas states like bihar,up,orissa,north-east,haryana, 
punjab,rajasthan,himachal rarely get mentioned in such initiatives.What 
is the reason for that and is this state of affairs going to continue?

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UB - good question!!!!!! exgalileo ICT penetration in rural india

good question!!!!!! exgalileo

No matter which way you try you cannot get away from the issue of density
and telematics....

TVs could be the answer? I had asked ISRO and Canadian ISRO about
collaboration on using spare satellite capacity on latest indiansats - they
were intrested then dead silence.....To do what?  If there are 35 million
cabled tvs and 80million plus TVs, and they can have a cheap phone/keyboard
interface and we throw in ground links to simputers and nlogue kiosks and
cordect to get terrestiral telematics connections to land switch (telephone
exchnage) routing, it would seem to me a lot of the poblem would be solved.

I hope you realised who was getting those BSNL GSM phones -  just look at
the map and calculate how many people in the hills are not getting the
connections - the UP towns talked about for one million plus GSM ;lines' run
right across from Meerut to Calcutta in a straight line - none are going
above the terai as far as I can or know......only places with line of sight
to the plains (e.g. from around 6,000 feet at Bhimtal through a gap down to
Haldwani

for a distance of about 200 metres at that height.

This means u have to drive an hour from one side or about 20 minutes for the
other side of the 200 metre range to get a line of sight .....great

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gii - agriculture/rural/new industries - growth. China's 800 milllion exgalileo

I find this who area very troublesome - what came first the cow or the pill ? (that is a Swiss Question - chicken or egg is for we poor. Three things below: China as the model but 800 milliona re being dumped in name of new industries (read INdia?). Mr E-Commerce, KN Gupta on DIY or die, Shyam telecom and riots from the village tank and the head of Nivea India on 'pathetic' life.
 
 
just look at agriculture in the swiss economy and see how many swiss either have some parttime 'farm' thing going or control worldwide vast agri empires (not just Nestle I can assure you).
 
For more on China go and see my entries on rural areas and national minorities (including 100 million migrant workers) in the World Directory of Minorities, 1997 - it is a very expensive (nothing to do with me!) reference book so only in certain big libraries. I must have the original datafile somewhere so if someone wants desperately and can't find I might try ......The 'orphanage' deaths of girl children in rural areas was in my opinioin in part due to provincial towns being starved of money because the Centre said the private sector would invest,  in the interests of 'liberalisationa and privatisation and the local areas then found they had almost no money for cinderella services such as the elderly and orphans and of course the 'extended family' had gone off to the cities to try to earn money order resources to send home..........see all this in Gittings article below:
 
A final point - here's is what head of Nivea INdia said at the Delhi povery summit in 2002 attended by business and opened by the PM.
 
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There are also warnings from key figures such as Rajiv Mehrotra, at the New Delhi Global Telecom Summit in September 2001, when he was head of Shyam Telecom and chairman of the cellular industry’s own association. He told this author that there would be social unrest if the rural population continued to see the citydwellers getting more and more of the telematic pie and income at the expense of rural producers.

   To meet rural needs and telematics rights under the USO, the regulator will need to act forcefully in the long-term public interest.  At the 16 October 2001, Indian national summit on ‘Public private partnership for rural prosperity’ in New Delhi, the summit chairman, Raghu Mody, head of Nivea India and President of India’s Association of Chambers of Commerce, concluded by saying. ‘Life in rural India is pathetic. Fifty kilometres outside Delhi life is terrible...After 50 years, how can we allow little pools of prosperity and this poverty to continue? We should now make this a national movement, as did Mahatma Gandhi to get our independence’.

            Self-reliance includes rural people taking telematic power to themselves, taking control of their own Web and not waiting for someone else to do the impossible of closing the info-gap. The message and means are clearly spelt out in the Bangalore Declaration.31 Let us return to and conclude with K.N.Gupta, former Executive Director of C-DOT. He is now the Government of India's Controller of Certifying Authorities at the Ministry of Information and Telecommunications - the man in charge of making India's e-commerce work for the future. ‘The problem is self-reliance and indigenisation and if you don’t do that then you get run over every time – absolutely every time, and the only way out is to do what C-DOT did’.32

 

Now for the article by John Gittings who has been covering china for the Guardian longer then I can remember
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The forgotten 800 million: how rural life is dying in the new China

In the run-up to the congress in which Beijing must face up to its future, the country's peasants are suffering growing inequality

John Gittings in Poyang Lake, Jiangxi
Saturday October 19, 2002
The Guardian

It is only a small hill but it saved the village beside Poyang Lake from being banished from its land. Long grass hides the ruins of the farmers' old houses, abandoned after the great flood four years ago.

The new village sits on the hill, two rows of single-storey bare brick houses squeezed close together. It lacks the old atmosphere, but it is better than being moved far away.

Only one family has obstinately stayed on. "They came and smashed holes in the roof to make them move", says a villager, "but now they seem to have given up."

Nearly 500,000 people have been "resettled" off the flood plains around the lake in Jiangxi province since the 1998 disaster. Embankments have been breached to let the lake return to its natural size - environmentally sensible but at a human cost. Even today in a far more open China, social engineering on this huge scale can take place with hardly anyone noticing.

There has been little discussion of rural problems in the run-up to the 16th Communist party congress which opens on November 8 in Beijing. Much more attention is paid to urban unemployment, the reform of state industry and banking, and the growing importance of private enterprise.

Yet though the percentage of Chinese living on the land has declined in the last 20 years of economic reform, because of population growth the absolute number is the same - a staggering 800 million.

Serious Chinese experts all agree that agriculture is stagnating for the majority living in the vast rural interior. "The future for peasant incomes and employment is grim," warns Chen Xiwen, deputy director of the state council's research centre, in a recent report.

Not only are average incomes barely rising, but the proportion derived from farming falls year by year. One in four of the rural labour force has left the villages to find work in booming urban China. Entire rural communities only get by because of the urban workers' remittances home.

Last year, according to Chen, there were more than 88 million migrant workers living away from home, most of them employed in "dirty, hard, dangerous and unsafe conditions".

The village beside Poyang Lake provides vivid proof of their flight. No attempt has been made to reclaim the abandoned houses and gardens where a single young buffalo grazes the turf quietly.

"One third of our able-bodied people go out to seek work," says a resident. "My brother is on the southern coast: he's found a job for my son. There's no one left to farm the land."

Millions of farmers are also heavily taxed by corrupt local officials who literally live off the land - in the old phrase "eating the emperor's [free] grain".

China's most famous advocate for peasant rights, Li Changping, says: "After paying taxes, the absolute majority of peasants do not have enough left to fund their agricultural production or rural industry".

Mr Li is a former rural official from another lakeside community - Dongting Lake in Hubei province. The peasants of Qipan, where he worked for 17 years, were paying three times as much tax as officially allowed to support a bloated bureaucracy. The cadres enjoyed subsidised housing, free cars, mobile phones, holiday travel and lavish banquets.

Mr Li described the peasants' plight in a letter to the premier Zhu Rongji which was then published in one of China's most adventurous newspapers. Stirred by the publicity, the government sent officials to investigate, but it was an empty victory: local thugs in league with the officials now collect the money instead.

There has been much official trumpeting about the success of a campaign to reduce rural taxes but the peasants may not be better off in the end.

In the past 20 years, central provision of funds for health and education has been slashed: even without corruption, local governments have less to spend on social services.

The little school at the village beside Poyang Lake has one teacher and one class - the first two years of primary school taught together. The teacher has been there for 30 years and his blackboard looks as old. The 35 children - 15 girls and 20 boys - are crammed together in the ground floor, diligently tracing their first Chinese characters.

There is a new district secondary school in the next village: serious maths and English is taught to extremely large classes of cheerful kids - some of whom go barefoot.

Real efforts are being made, but attendance rates across the country have fallen as the age - and school fees - rise. Teachers are paid late or not at all: Jiangxi province has just announced a new plan to try to give them their money.

Health services have been hit equally. Local doctors over-prescribe because they must live off the fees. Hospital in-patients leave before treatment is completed because they cannot afford the high charges.

In the 1960s, Mao Zedong proclaimed the goal of "narrowing the difference between town and countryside".

After years of neglect, this is beginning to be talked about again, but in the meanwhile the gap has widened. If the hidden value of better urban services is included, the real gap between average urban and rural incomes may be as wide as six to one.

In many Jiangxi villages, Mao's portrait is displayed in almost every peasant house. "We don't worship the chairman," explains one villager, "but we honour him for what he did."

Western predictions of a new peasant revolt are wide of the mark in Mr Li's view. He says: "China has the world's best peasants". They blame local cadres and governments, not Beijing for their plight.

However he predicts that, in spite of official restrictions on migration, the flow of jobless peasants will grow till "the rural problem becomes an urban problem".

China's city dwellers, most of whom only go to the countryside to visit famous beauty spots, will no longer be able to ignore the 800 million.



Frederick Noronha | 22 Oct 2002 11:39

NEWS: Private firms protest BSNL's 'anti-competitive' tariff

Private firms protest BSNL's 'anti-competitive' tariff

By Sumeet Chatterjee, Indo-Asian News Service

New Delhi, Oct 22 (IANS) The entry of state-run telecom giant Bharat Sanchar
Nigam Ltd. (BSNL) into India's rapidly growing mobile phone business is
posing a virtual survival challenge to private operators.

Private operators, struggling to increase their stake in a mobile phone
market expected to be one of the world's fastest growing this decade, have
accused BSNL of leveraging its mammoth infrastructure across India to
shatter competition.

The aggressive tariff package of BSNL includes free incoming calls on its
mobile phones and waiver off of airtime on long distance calls. These
services are currently not provided by the private operators in the country.

"The BSNL tariff plan is absolutely unfair to other private operators in the
country," said P.K. Sandell, advisor (telecom committee) of the Associated
Chambers of Commerce and Industry of India (Assocham).

"BSNL is taking advantage of its size to sweep out the private operators.
There is an element of dumping in BSNL's tariff strategy. They want to bring
down the rates drastically low so that competition in the sector is
completely eroded.

"This is not correct. I think TRAI (Telecom Regulatory Authority of India)
should step in to ensure a level-playing field is maintained," Sandell told
IANS.

BSNL, India's largest telecom firm, Saturday made its foray into the
country's booming mobile phone market under the 'CellOne' brand at tariffs
that are being termed by the rival companies as "anti-competitive".

Indian mobile phone companies charge on an average Rs 2.40 per minute for an
outgoing and an incoming call each.

Minister for Communications and IT Pramod Mahajan, however, sought to play
down the criticism, saying the tariff offered by BSNL was approved by the
telecom watchdog TRAI keeping in view the "competitive market" scenario.

"As far as cellular tariff is concerned, it has been decided by BSNL and not
by the government. To best of my knowledge, they have taken the permission
of TRAI to offer this package. I am only interested to see that customers
pay less and less."

BSNL has said it would offer free incoming calls to CellOne customers if the
call were made from any of its 37 million fixed-line phones or from other
CellOne users across the country.

Compared to this, private operators like Bharti TeleVentures and Essar
Hutchinson, a group company of Hong Kong-based Hutchinson Whampoa, offer
free incoming calls only from a subscriber on the same mobile network.

Private companies argue that more than 70 percent of the calls made to a
cellular telephone is on fixed-line network. Since BSNL owns 90 percent
share in the fixed-line market in India, it can afford to offer free
incoming calls.

BSNL, formed in October 2000 after the government corporatised the
state-owned telecom department, provides fixed-line telephone services
across India except in the two main cities of New Delhi and Mumbai.

The company will compete with three other private companies in most of the
22-telecom zones.

The second objection raised by private cellular companies is that BSNL has
waived off the airtime on long-distance calls.

This means a CellOne subscriber will pay only the long-distance component of
the call, while the subscribers of other operators pay the long-distance
component as well as the respective airtime tariff.

"Its completely anti-competitive. BSNL has massive cash flow and their
profit is huge so they can afford to do that," said a senior official of a
private cellular service provider.

"The private players by an chance would not be able to match BSNL's
resources and leverage it to offer mobile services at sharply lower rates.
This is a move to ensure the private operators don't get any business," the
official alleged.

The entry of BSNL into cellular operations comes in the wake of the tapering
off growth in the fixed-line telephones business, while the prospects of
growth in the cellular service expected to continue for the next five to 10
years.

BSNL is hoping to attract 2.5 million customers through its 'CellOne' brand
by the end of the first year of operations. The service will cover 350
cities initially, and rolled out to the rest of the country by December
2003.

India's $5.0-billion mobile phone sector has over eight million users, most
of them in big cities but is projected to grow to 20 million by March 2005.
India has the second largest mobile user base after China.

--Indo-Asian News Service

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Atanu Dey | 22 Oct 2002 18:43
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Re: NEWS: Private firms protest BSNL's 'anti-competitive' tariff

> Private firms protest BSNL's 'anti-competitive' tariff
> By Sumeet Chatterjee, Indo-Asian News Service
> 
> New Delhi, Oct 22 (IANS) The entry of state-run telecom giant Bharat Sanchar

 < kato snip kato snip >

> India's $5.0-billion mobile phone sector has over eight million users, most
> of them in big cities but is projected to grow to 20 million by March 2005.
> India has the second largest mobile user base after China.

 Begin Rant: what the heck is "India has the second largest mobile
 user base after China" supposed to mean?

 Clearly it is not 'installed base'. So then does it mean
 'potential users'? If so, I suppose "India has the second
 largest user base for Rolls Royces" too. 

 End of rant. 

 Atanu
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Udhay Shankar N | 22 Oct 2002 19:15
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Re: NEWS: Private firms protest BSNL's 'anti-competitive' tariff

At 09:43 AM 10/22/02 -0700, Atanu Dey wrote:

>  Clearly it is not 'installed base'. So then does it mean
>  'potential users'? If so, I suppose "India has the second
>  largest user base for Rolls Royces" too.

<Cue earlier thread about target markets here>

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