Application of madwifi.org as associated project

Hi all.

It took some time, but finally all open questions have been cleared (see
[1] and [2] for related discussions on this list) and all obstacles have
been moved out of the way. The MadWifi project (a.k.a. madwifi.org) would
hereby like to apply as an associated project.

Is there a realistic chance to get our application added to the agenda of
the next meeting (19th December), given that I've managed to provide all
relevant information below?

In case of questions I'll be available by e-mail as well as on #spi
(nickname "otaku42").

Who?
====
madwifi.org develops Linux kernel drivers for Wireless LAN devices with
Atheros chipsets. Started in late 2003 by two developers, the project
today has a total of 23 members. We currently provide two main drivers:
MadWifi and ath5k.

MadWifi has an established userbase and is one of the most advanced WLAN
drivers available for Linux today. It's available in all major Linux
distributions. It's embedded in products from companies such as FON [3]
and Meraki [4] and is also used in many academic projects [5].

MadWifi itself is open source but depends on a proprietary Hardware
Abstraction Layer (HAL) that is available in binary form only. This was
one of the main reasons for the project to shift [6] our focus of
development towards ath5k in September 2007. ath5k is a relatively new and

Re: Application of madwifi.org as associated project

Hi.

>> [2] http://madwifi.org/wiki/TeamMembers
> This page seems to be editable by anyone.  This is not a good idea for a
> charter-referenced document, IMO.

I agree, and it still needed an update. Thanks for the hint and reminder,
both issues have been fixed.

Bye, Mike

Re: Application of madwifi.org as associated project

On Mon, Dec 17, 2007 at 12:55:55PM +0100, Michael Renzmann wrote:
> [2] http://madwifi.org/wiki/TeamMembers

This page seems to be editable by anyone.  This is not a good idea for a
charter-referenced document, IMO.

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Re: Meetbot for SPI

Don Armstrong <don <at> donarmstrong.com> wrote:
> It'd be enough for one interested member (board or otherwise) to stick
> a bot in and send the completed logs to -general (or provide a link to
> them.) This shouldn't require anyone's approval.

Will anyone who can attend the new meeting time of third Wednesday
19:00Z send a log/summary, then, please?

Will anyone who attended the last meeting send a log, please?

Will anyone who logged the anti-bot discussion post it, please?

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Re: Meetbot for SPI

On Fri, Dec 28, 2007 at 11:18:32AM +0000, MJ Ray wrote:
> Don Armstrong <don <at> donarmstrong.com> wrote:
> > It'd be enough for one interested member (board or otherwise) to stick
> > a bot in and send the completed logs to -general (or provide a link to
> > them.) This shouldn't require anyone's approval.
> 
> Will anyone who can attend the new meeting time of third Wednesday
> 19:00Z send a log/summary, then, please?

Why not put a bot there yourself that only logs while meetings are
occurring and doesn't make noise, and then either emails those summaries
out to -general or allows you to do it after any necessary light
editing? (IMHO approved and maybe draft minutes but not logs should go
to -announce, but that's debatable.) That would seem to satisfy everyone
including Joerg. The bot can tell that a meeting is beginning by the
textual case-insensitive occurrence of "*gavel*" on a line by itself
around the official meeting start time and then by its reoccurrence at
the end of the meeting. I'll be glad to discuss any refinements of this
heuristic if that would help, as I'm sure would many others.

In related news, I've talked one-on-one with Neil about ways I can help,
and with some newly granted permissions relating to the website I'm
going to get the official public record of SPI's minutes/resolutions/etc
much more up to date within the upcoming days, as my schedule permits.

- Jimmy Kaplowitz
jimmy <at> spi-inc.org

Re: Our goals?

On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 14:40:42 -0800
"Joshua D. Drake" <jd <at> commandprompt.com> wrote:

Hello,

I am pushing the below to -general in hopes for more interaction.

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> 
> Hello,
> 
> As is common place toward the beginning of a New Year, people like to
> reflect and possibly make new resolutions. I was wondering what the
> SPI members would like to see SPI do in the next 12 months?
> 
> I was recently inspired by the following:
> 
> http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/press/2007Dec-newsletter.shtml
> 
> Just seeing how the foundation is communicating not only with its
> members but the general public. I would like to see SPI make a more
> concerted effort toward that end.
> 
> I would also like to see us not only embrace more projects but also
> work more closely with existing projects to help their advocacy
> efforts.
> 
> What would others like to see? What ideas do you have?

Re: Application of madwifi.org as associated project

Hi all.

> [...]
> The MadWifi project (a.k.a. madwifi.org) would
> hereby like to apply as an associated project.
> [...]

Since there was little feedback yet, I wonder if the way we sent in our
application was correct. If it's not (or if any information is missing),
please advise. Thanks in advance.

Bye, Mike

Re: Application of madwifi.org as associated project

On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 21:20:23 +0100 (CET)
"Michael Renzmann" <mrenzmann <at> madwifi.org> wrote:

> Hi all.
> 
> > [...]
> > The MadWifi project (a.k.a. madwifi.org) would
> > hereby like to apply as an associated project.
> > [...]
> 
> Since there was little feedback yet, I wonder if the way we sent in
> our application was correct. If it's not (or if any information is
> missing), please advise. Thanks in advance.

Hmmmm...

I don't recall seeing an actual application. Let me review the archives.

Sincerely,

Joshua D. Drake

> 
> Bye, Mike
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Re: Application of madwifi.org as associated project

On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 12:28:42 -0800
"Joshua D. Drake" <jd <at> commandprompt.com> wrote:

> 
> Hmmmm...
> 
> I don't recall seeing an actual application. Let me review the
> archives.

I am not sure why I didn't see this. I have read your application in
the archives. I am on the channel linuxpoet <at> #spi... and have pinged you.

Sincerely,

Joshua D. Drake
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Re: Application of madwifi.org as associated project

On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 21:20:23 +0100 (CET)
"Michael Renzmann" <mrenzmann <at> madwifi.org> wrote:

> Hi all.
> 
> > [...]
> > The MadWifi project (a.k.a. madwifi.org) would
> > hereby like to apply as an associated project.
> > [...]
> 
> Since there was little feedback yet, I wonder if the way we sent in
> our application was correct. If it's not (or if any information is
> missing), please advise. Thanks in advance.

When reading your post I see the following:

All "products" (code, documentation and thelike) of the project are
offered according to the principles and ideas of the "Free and Open
Software" movement (FOSS). Past claims that the project does not fully
honour FOSS due to the support and use of the binary-only HAL in MadWifi
should have been voided by our explanation in [4].

But [4] points to: http://meraki.com/

I am not sure about the context? Other than this, I have zero problem
with putting you up to be an affiliated project.

Sincerely,