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ali mahmudi | 1 Sep 18:31

Re: [indoexpat-uk] Unek-unek jadi Org Indonesian Expats: Sdh Sulit, sipersulit lagi ....

Kebetulan saya tinggal di Aberdeen, Scotland.
Di Aberdeen ada konsulat Belanda.

Cukup banyak rekan-2 Indonesia expat yang bekerja di oil & Gas.
Mereka bekerja sebagai expat, hanya kira-2 2 tahun aja di UK; dan kemudian bisa diperpanjang lagi.

Beberapa ciri orang-2 expat:
fasilitas rumah, listrik dan gas yang dibayarin perusahaan.
fasilitas mobil (mobil dibayarin perusahaan).
container / shipping dibayar perusahaan.
liburan 1-2 kali setahun dibayar perusahaan
anak-2 sekolah di International School
Umumnya, mereka bekerja di Indonesia dan sedang ditempatkan/dipinjamkan di UK.
Jangan kaget, kalau ada yang tetap menerima gaji di Indonesia, dan juga menerima 'living allowance' di UK.
Perkiraan income mereka, gaji mereka 3-4 kali gaji lokal.

Perkiraan saya dari budget para expat.
Jika allowance rumah dan utility bills dijatah £1800 per bulan (rumah dgn standard sewa £1500 sebulan
udah wajar).
kemudian mobil dijatah £200 per bulan. (sewa harian mobil baru kira-2 £5-7 sehari... kalau malas
mbersihin mobil, perlu ganti oli, bisa nukar mobil...)
kemudian, ditambah living allowance kira-2 £40-70 per day....

Utk karyawan Chevron... allowance rumah dan mobil bisa diberikan dalam bentuk CASH.
Utk karyawan BP... allowance rumah diberikan dalam bentuk rumah alias CLAIM (bukan cash) dan mobil
diberikan dalam bentuk mobil sewa. kalau minta CASH, hanya diberikan setengah nya.

Kalau milis kita disebut indoexpat...
mungkin karna kita gak mau disebut TKI (Tenaga Kerja Indonesia).

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Okto Sriyono | 1 Sep 23:00

Re: [indoexpat-uk] Unek-unek jadi Org Indonesian Expats: Sdh Sulit, sipersulit lagi ....

Sebenarnya yang dimaksud expat dalam pengertian kita apa sih (bukan terjemahan bhs inggris lho)?

 
Benar, tenaga kontraktor lebih tinggi bayarannya dari pada permanent. Asal siap sport jantung saja
setiap mau habis kontrak, kalau untung diperpanjang terus sampai bertahun-tahun - kalau apes
"pulangkan saja aku pada ayah ibuku" (meniru syair lagu yang pernah terkenal di Indonesia).
 
Saya sebelum jadi "kuli" lokal di sini pernah juga jadi expat keliling dunia, kalau pulang ke Indonesia
selalu dengan "senyum" lebar. Saya pernah di sewakan apartment besar dengan 3 kamar (tetapi
yang terpakai cuma 1) seharga sekitar lebih $2000 per bulan (padahal itu belum yang top nya dibanding
orang lain), apartment gak cari dan bayar sewa sendiri, tau-tau sudah dikasih - dibersihkan seminggu
sekali. Dikasih meal allowance tapi setiap hari selalu dikasi voucher makan gratis sama perusahaan
lokal. Disewakan mobil Mazda Salon 626 full electric (11 tahun lalu mobil begini termasuk bagus). Gaji
Indonesia gak kemakan sama sekali, malah dinaikkan (lupa berapa %). Gak pernah mikir bayar listrik, gak
pernah mikir bayar air, gak pernah mikir belanja/masak padahal dapur ada lengkap dengan peralatan
masak/makan, gak pernah mikir bayar lain-lain. Tapi itu dulu, waktu masih bujangan. Kalau sekarang,
mikir 10x belum tentu berani ambil (walaupun pusing mikirin
 utility bill sama tax yg terus naik) kecuali kalau kepepet.
Money is not everything.
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From: ali mahmudi <amahmudi <at> hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] Unek-unek jadi Org Indonesian Expats: Sdh Sulit, sipersulit lagi ....
To: "Okto Sriyono" <okto.sriyono <at> yahoo.co.uk>
Date: Monday, 1 September, 2008, 5:31 PM

Kebetulan saya tinggal di Aberdeen, Scotland. 
Di Aberdeen ada konsulat Belanda.

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pantaiema | 3 Sep 11:40

[indoexpat-uk] Another Real Story of Indonesan Expats in the EU (SAD but TRUE)

Beberapa menit yg lalu saya dpat kabar bahwa, bahwa kelaurga dekat saya, yang saya anggap sdh sebagai Paman
saya meninggal dunia. Dia tinggalnya di salah satu EU countries.

Sedihnya saya tdk bisa kunjungi penguburannya krn saya tdk punya VISA ke negara tsb. Seperti sdh saya
jelaskan sebelumnya buat org indo melamar VISA bisa ambil waktu 6 migggu. SAD but TRUE, real story

Barangkali ada rekan-rekan yang bisa bagi pengalamnnnya mengenai melamar VISA di Eu countries

      
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Chris Prakoso | 3 Sep 12:05

Re: [indoexpat-uk] Another Real Story of Indonesan Expats in the EU (SAD but TRUE)

Sorry about your loss, my thought and prayer are with you and your family.

Kalau cerita soal visa, kayaknya nggak bakal ada habisnya ya.
Unfortunately, nggak banyak yang bisa kita lakukan selain menerima 'nasib' :(

But, speaking about 'nasib', kemaren ini saya apply visa schengen
multi-entry ke Kedutaan Slovakia, dapet sampai February 2009.  Lucky ?
Maybe, but probably more because I've been going back and forth to
Slovakia once a year for the past 4 years.
Slovakia, beserta beberapa negara Eropa Timur yang lain, baru tahun
ini masuk Schengen, jadi prosesnya agak lebih panjang (1 bulan -
biasanya 2 minggu), harus pake appointment, dan dokumen yang
diperlukan banyak (salah satunya: 6 bulan Bank Statement terakhir).

Regards,
Bagus

2008/9/3 pantaiema <pantaiema@...>:
> Beberapa menit yg lalu saya dpat kabar bahwa, bahwa kelaurga dekat saya, yang saya anggap sdh sebagai
Paman saya meninggal dunia. Dia tinggalnya di salah satu EU countries.
>
> Sedihnya saya tdk bisa kunjungi penguburannya krn saya tdk punya VISA ke negara tsb. Seperti sdh saya
jelaskan sebelumnya buat org indo melamar VISA bisa ambil waktu 6 migggu. SAD but TRUE, real story
>
> Barangkali ada rekan-rekan yang bisa bagi pengalamnnnya mengenai melamar VISA di Eu countries
>
>
>
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Eko Kurniawan | 9 Sep 12:25

[indoexpat-uk] Foreign worker limits introduced

Ini bakalan di taro di syarat tier-2 ato gimana ya?

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7605455.stm

Foreign worker limits introduced

New measures aimed at cutting the number of foreign workers coming to the UK from outside the EU are due to be
announced later.
The types of businesses which can use non-EU workers because of skill or labour shortages will be listed.
It means employers whose jobs are not on the list will find it more difficult to bring in foreign workers in
future.
The government says this system is more effective than simply bringing in limits on overall numbers.
The shortage occupation list has been compiled by the Migration Advisory Committee.
Professor David Metcalf, the chairman of the Migration Advisory Committee, said that an employer would
have to meet three hurdles to be able to hire somebody from outside Europe.
"Firstly the job has got to be skilled, secondly there has got to be a shortage, and thirdly and perhaps most
importantly, it has to be sensible to bring a person in - there we are looking at the tension between the
short-run fix of bringing immigrants in and the long-run need to upskill the economy," he said.
The changes, which involved looking at 12 different indicators, will result in a more skilled labour
supply, he added.
According to the list, maths and science teachers are still needed, but teachers with other subjects will
face restrictions.
Midwives, social workers and IT technicians from outside the EU are all no longer needed, according to the
list.
Only care workers earning at least £8.80 an hour will be allowed to come to Britain from later this year - a
salary level most care-home owners will not be able to pay.
"It is so far above what the medium pay levels are within care homes for senior care workers, it is just not

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ali mahmudi | 9 Sep 12:55

Re: [indoexpat-uk] Another Real Story of Indonesan Expats in the EU (SAD but TRUE)


Sad Story...

Saya sempat dengar ada warga Indonesia yang meninggal di Belanda. 
Saya dengar kira-2 hari Sabtu / Minggu kemarin ini. 
Apakah itu keluarga anda ?

Ali mahmudi
> Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 02:40:35 -0700> From: pantaiema@...>
Subject: [indoexpat-uk] Another Real Story of Indonesan Expats in the EU (SAD but TRUE)> To:
amahmudi@...> > Beberapa menit yg lalu saya dpat kabar bahwa,
bahwa kelaurga dekat saya, yang saya anggap sdh sebagai Paman saya meninggal dunia. Dia tinggalnya di
salah satu EU countries.> > Sedihnya saya tdk bisa kunjungi penguburannya krn saya tdk punya VISA ke
negara tsb. Seperti sdh saya jelaskan sebelumnya buat org indo melamar VISA bisa ambil waktu 6 migggu. SAD
but TRUE, real story> > Barangkali ada rekan-rekan yang bisa bagi pengalamnnnya mengenai melamar VISA di
Eu countries> > > > _________________________________________________________________> To
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Perry Ismangil | 9 Sep 13:11

Re: [indoexpat-uk] Foreign worker limits introduced

Ya betul, ini maksudnya syarat untuk Tier 2, sponsored.

On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 11:25 AM, Eko Kurniawan
<ekokurniawan@...> wrote:
> Ini bakalan di taro di syarat tier-2 ato gimana ya?
>
> ----------------------
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7605455.stm
>
> Foreign worker limits introduced
>
> New measures aimed at cutting the number of foreign workers coming to the UK from outside the EU are due to be
announced later.
>
> The types of businesses which can use non-EU workers because of skill or labour shortages will be listed.
> It means employers whose jobs are not on the list will find it more difficult to bring in foreign workers in future.
> The government says this system is more effective than simply bringing in limits on overall numbers.
> The shortage occupation list has been compiled by the Migration Advisory Committee.
> Professor David Metcalf, the chairman of the Migration Advisory Committee, said that an employer would
have to meet three hurdles to be able to hire somebody from outside Europe.
> "Firstly the job has got to be skilled, secondly there has got to be a shortage, and thirdly and perhaps most
importantly, it has to be sensible to bring a person in - there we are looking at the tension between the
short-run fix of bringing immigrants in and the long-run need to upskill the economy," he said.
> The changes, which involved looking at 12 different indicators, will result in a more skilled labour
supply, he added.
> According to the list, maths and science teachers are still needed, but teachers with other subjects will
face restrictions.
> Midwives, social workers and IT technicians from outside the EU are all no longer needed, according to the list.
> Only care workers earning at least £8.80 an hour will be allowed to come to Britain from later this year - a

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Perry Ismangil | 9 Sep 15:44

Re: [indoexpat-uk] Foreign worker limits introduced

Ini daftarnya yang komplit

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/aboutus/workingwithus/indbodies/mac/macfirstshortagelist/

On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 12:11 PM, Perry Ismangil <perry@...> wrote:
> Ya betul, ini maksudnya syarat untuk Tier 2, sponsored.
>
> On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 11:25 AM, Eko Kurniawan
<ekokurniawan@...> wrote:
>> Ini bakalan di taro di syarat tier-2 ato gimana ya?
>>
>> ----------------------
>>
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7605455.stm
>>
>> Foreign worker limits introduced
>>
>> New measures aimed at cutting the number of foreign workers coming to the UK from outside the EU are due to
be announced later.
>>
>> The types of businesses which can use non-EU workers because of skill or labour shortages will be listed.
>> It means employers whose jobs are not on the list will find it more difficult to bring in foreign workers in future.
>> The government says this system is more effective than simply bringing in limits on overall numbers.
>> The shortage occupation list has been compiled by the Migration Advisory Committee.
>> Professor David Metcalf, the chairman of the Migration Advisory Committee, said that an employer would
have to meet three hurdles to be able to hire somebody from outside Europe.
>> "Firstly the job has got to be skilled, secondly there has got to be a shortage, and thirdly and perhaps
most importantly, it has to be sensible to bring a person in - there we are looking at the tension between the
short-run fix of bringing immigrants in and the long-run need to upskill the economy," he said.
>> The changes, which involved looking at 12 different indicators, will result in a more skilled labour

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Eko Kurniawan | 9 Sep 16:49

Re: [indoexpat-uk] Foreign worker limits introduced

Wah cuma dikit banget ya yang masuk shortage occupation list?
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm........

----- Original Message ----
From: Perry Ismangil <perry@...>
To: ekokurniawan@...
Sent: Tuesday, September 9, 2008 2:44:37 PM
Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] Foreign worker limits introduced

Ini daftarnya yang komplit

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/aboutus/workingwithus/indbodies/mac/macfirstshortagelist/

On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 12:11 PM, Perry Ismangil <perry@...> wrote:
> Ya betul, ini maksudnya syarat untuk Tier 2, sponsored.
>
> On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 11:25 AM, Eko Kurniawan
<ekokurniawan@...> wrote:
>> Ini bakalan di taro di syarat tier-2 ato gimana ya?
>>
>> ----------------------
>>
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7605455.stm
>>
>> Foreign worker limits introduced
>>
>> New measures aimed at cutting the number of foreign workers coming to the UK from outside the EU are due to
be announced later.
>>
>> The types of businesses which can use non-EU workers because of skill or labour shortages will be listed.

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Chris Prakoso | 9 Sep 17:36

Re: [indoexpat-uk] Foreign worker limits introduced

Skilled Ballet Dancers everyone ? or Skilled Chef ? :D
Maybe we should think about changing our occupation :)

Jadi inget 10 tahun lalu, waktu IT Specialist lagi seret-seretnya,
sampai-sampai Visa Kerja-ku di-ikutkan 'jalan tol', sebulan langsung
jadi.
On the hindsight, I think I was very lucky.

Cheers,
Bagus

On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 3:49 PM, Eko Kurniawan <ekokurniawan@...> wrote:
> Wah cuma dikit banget ya yang masuk shortage occupation list?
> Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm........
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Perry Ismangil <perry@...>
> To: ekokurniawan@...
> Sent: Tuesday, September 9, 2008 2:44:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] Foreign worker limits introduced
>
> Ini daftarnya yang komplit
>
> http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/aboutus/workingwithus/indbodies/mac/macfirstshortagelist/
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 12:11 PM, Perry Ismangil <perry@...> wrote:
>> Ya betul, ini maksudnya syarat untuk Tier 2, sponsored.

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