~NGL~ | 1 Mar 2012 02:28
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[WISPA] Excede (viasat-1) Satalitte Internet

Anyone run into Excede (viasat-1)  Satalitte Internet? They claim download speeds of 12 Megs and can use Skype and Vonage for $60.00 per month and a $149.95 setup fee.
Any Comments?
NGL
 
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Daniel White | 1 Mar 2012 02:49
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Re: [WISPA] Excede (viasat-1) Satalitte Internet

It still has exceedingly bad latency just like any other satellite service, but the capacity figures are true (at least until those spot beams become more saturated)


Also watch out for the bandwidth caps, and contract terms.  I’m not sure I would use Skype or Vonage on a service like that.

 

Daniel White

(303) 746-3590

 

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Anyone run into Excede (viasat-1)  Satalitte Internet? They claim download speeds of 12 Megs and can use Skype and Vonage for $60.00 per month and a $149.95 setup fee.

Any Comments?

NGL

 

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Greg Ihnen | 1 Mar 2012 03:10
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Re: [WISPA] Excede (viasat-1) Satalitte Internet

I'm not familiar with them but that service has got to have bandwidth caps like DirecWay. Also it's hard to believe that Skype and Vonage would work well because they must be over-sold (high contention ratio) at that price.

Greg
On Feb 29, 2012, at 8:58 PM, ~NGL~ wrote:

Anyone run into Excede (viasat-1)  Satalitte Internet? They claim download speeds of 12 Megs and can use Skype and Vonage for $60.00 per month and a $149.95 setup fee.
Any Comments?
NGL
 
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Mike Hammett | 1 Mar 2012 06:11
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Re: [WISPA] Excede (viasat-1) Satalitte Internet

I think this is brought up at least once a week. :-)

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On 2/29/2012 7:28 PM, ~NGL~ wrote:
> Anyone run into Excede (viasat-1)  Satalitte Internet? They claim 
> download speeds of 12 Megs and can use Skype and Vonage for $60.00 per 
> month and a $149.95 setup fee.
> Any Comments?
> NGL
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>
>
>
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Matt Hoppes | 1 Mar 2012 13:20

[WISPA] VoIP CALEA Question

We are considering doing some limited VoIP offerings to supplement our 
GSM offerings in certain situations.

A question that just arose, and I don't know the answer to is:

* Understanding that an interconnected VoIP carrier must be CALEA 
compliant and be able to record calls.

** How does this situation work if the audio stream does not pass 
through your soft-switch? (e.g. end user makes a call, my soft switch 
sets up the call between end-user and Level3, and then a re-invite 
happens which sends the audio from the end-user direct to the Level3 switch)

How am I suppose to be able to record that call?
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Dennis Burgess | 1 Mar 2012 15:06

Re: [WISPA] VoIP CALEA Question

Don't think the requirement is to "record" the call, but CALEA would
allow you to record, or capture the packets, that would include the
call. The LEA would be required to "extract" or retrieve the call from
the data.  Its more of a digital wire-tapping of packets, vs what kind
of packets.   So, you would capture as close to the "target" as
possible, so in our case, we would do it at the AP, so you would still
get all of the packets going to and from the client.  

I'm sure someone else who has read more of the code can answer other
questions.  

Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer 
Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net 
LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training - Author of "Learn RouterOS: Second
Edition"

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Subject: [WISPA] VoIP CALEA Question

We are considering doing some limited VoIP offerings to supplement our
GSM offerings in certain situations.

A question that just arose, and I don't know the answer to is:

* Understanding that an interconnected VoIP carrier must be CALEA
compliant and be able to record calls.

** How does this situation work if the audio stream does not pass
through your soft-switch? (e.g. end user makes a call, my soft switch
sets up the call between end-user and Level3, and then a re-invite
happens which sends the audio from the end-user direct to the Level3
switch)

How am I suppose to be able to record that call?
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Faisal Imtiaz | 1 Mar 2012 15:38

Re: [WISPA] VoIP CALEA Question

Do a google search on "Mikrotik CALEA", take a look at  The Mikrotik 
WIki as well as Butch's CALEA (MUM 2007) presentation.
This will give you an excellent idea on how to accomplish what you are 
asking for .

Regards.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet&  Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, Fl 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: Support <at> Snappydsl.net

On 3/1/2012 7:20 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
> We are considering doing some limited VoIP offerings to supplement our
> GSM offerings in certain situations.
>
> A question that just arose, and I don't know the answer to is:
>
> * Understanding that an interconnected VoIP carrier must be CALEA
> compliant and be able to record calls.
>
> ** How does this situation work if the audio stream does not pass
> through your soft-switch? (e.g. end user makes a call, my soft switch
> sets up the call between end-user and Level3, and then a re-invite
> happens which sends the audio from the end-user direct to the Level3 switch)
>
> How am I suppose to be able to record that call?
> _______________________________________________
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Matt Hoppes | 1 Mar 2012 15:56

Re: [WISPA] VoIP CALEA Question

I'm obviously not asking the question properly.

I know how to do a CALEA capture for regular IP traffic.  My question is 
related to VoIP traffic in particular.

(e.g. Yes, if a customer has Vonage I obviously can't record the call... 
but I can capture the packets).

However, my understanding was always that if you provided VoIP from your 
network you had to be able to record both legs of the call so that the 
LEA can determine, for example, which side of the call a noise was heard on.

Matt Hoppes
Director of Information Technology
Indigo Wireless
+1 (570) 723-7312

On 3/1/12 9:38 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
> Do a google search on "Mikrotik CALEA", take a look at  The Mikrotik
> WIki as well as Butch's CALEA (MUM 2007) presentation.
> This will give you an excellent idea on how to accomplish what you are
> asking for .
>
> Regards.
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet&   Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, Fl 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
> Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: Support <at> Snappydsl.net
>
>
> On 3/1/2012 7:20 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
>> We are considering doing some limited VoIP offerings to supplement our
>> GSM offerings in certain situations.
>>
>> A question that just arose, and I don't know the answer to is:
>>
>> * Understanding that an interconnected VoIP carrier must be CALEA
>> compliant and be able to record calls.
>>
>> ** How does this situation work if the audio stream does not pass
>> through your soft-switch? (e.g. end user makes a call, my soft switch
>> sets up the call between end-user and Level3, and then a re-invite
>> happens which sends the audio from the end-user direct to the Level3 switch)
>>
>> How am I suppose to be able to record that call?
>> _______________________________________________
>> Wireless mailing list
>> Wireless <at> wispa.org
>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
>>
>
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Re: [WISPA] VoIP CALEA Question

You can only record what hits your network.

If it's handed off to someone else they'll have to record it.

marlon

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From: "Matt Hoppes" <mhoppes <at> indigowireless.com>
To: <Faisal <at> snappydsl.net>; "WISPA General List" <wireless <at> wispa.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 6:56 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoIP CALEA Question

> I'm obviously not asking the question properly.
>
> I know how to do a CALEA capture for regular IP traffic.  My question is
> related to VoIP traffic in particular.
>
> (e.g. Yes, if a customer has Vonage I obviously can't record the call...
> but I can capture the packets).
>
> However, my understanding was always that if you provided VoIP from your
> network you had to be able to record both legs of the call so that the
> LEA can determine, for example, which side of the call a noise was heard 
> on.
>
>
> Matt Hoppes
> Director of Information Technology
> Indigo Wireless
> +1 (570) 723-7312
>
> On 3/1/12 9:38 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
>> Do a google search on "Mikrotik CALEA", take a look at  The Mikrotik
>> WIki as well as Butch's CALEA (MUM 2007) presentation.
>> This will give you an excellent idea on how to accomplish what you are
>> asking for .
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>> Faisal Imtiaz
>> Snappy Internet&   Telecom
>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>> Miami, Fl 33155
>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>> Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: Support <at> Snappydsl.net
>>
>>
>> On 3/1/2012 7:20 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
>>> We are considering doing some limited VoIP offerings to supplement our
>>> GSM offerings in certain situations.
>>>
>>> A question that just arose, and I don't know the answer to is:
>>>
>>> * Understanding that an interconnected VoIP carrier must be CALEA
>>> compliant and be able to record calls.
>>>
>>> ** How does this situation work if the audio stream does not pass
>>> through your soft-switch? (e.g. end user makes a call, my soft switch
>>> sets up the call between end-user and Level3, and then a re-invite
>>> happens which sends the audio from the end-user direct to the Level3 
>>> switch)
>>>
>>> How am I suppose to be able to record that call?
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Wireless mailing list
>>> Wireless <at> wispa.org
>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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Terry White | 1 Mar 2012 17:56
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Re: [WISPA] Excede (viasat-1) Satalitte Internet

Yes 149 activation fee  9.95 monthly lease fee and

49.99 month 10 gb data cap

79.99 month 15 GB data cap

129.99 month 25 gb data cap.

Also seen  49.99 for 7 gb data cap and 54.99 for 10 gb data cap.

 

Looks like it has about 600-800 ms latency  and tesymy.net shows speed test at around 10-14 mg

 

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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Excede (viasat-1) Satalitte Internet

 

I'm not familiar with them but that service has got to have bandwidth caps like DirecWay. Also it's hard to believe that Skype and Vonage would work well because they must be over-sold (high contention ratio) at that price.

 

Greg

On Feb 29, 2012, at 8:58 PM, ~NGL~ wrote:



Anyone run into Excede (viasat-1)  Satalitte Internet? They claim download speeds of 12 Megs and can use Skype and Vonage for $60.00 per month and a $149.95 setup fee.

Any Comments?

NGL

 

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