WWS2 | 1 Dec 2005 01:23
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[WISPA] Re: Call For Help on G4

Okay-sorry Ron.
 
G4 is a satellite/cable network that bought out the old TECH TV network.  They deal mostly with technology-games/equipment/etc, although they have the infamous Man Show on at night.
 
Call For Help is an original TECH TV show that was on for years that G4 tried to kill when the took them over.  Reason-it was on at 3pm and originally was geared to teens but they had a larger adult audience and G4 was stupid.  The Canada version of G4 took Leo and the show on [he has a radio show and website and books].  Finally after petitions and emails and campaigns protesting its cancelation, the USA version of G4 picked up the show [8am EST for me on Dish Network].  Call For Help solves computer problems of viewers, talks about new software and hardware, viruses, websites, and more.  I have learned a lot from Leo and crew-and I dont hold it against him that he likes Apple better than PC-but he does know both. 
 
It still is done live from Toronto Canada [used to be San Francisco and I believe near Leo's home in one of the Carolina's.
 
Call For Help is on Dish Network here in EST at 8am Monday-Friday, plus another time later in the day for the west coast.
 
Walter
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 11/30/2005 6:00:53 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, wireless-request <at> wispa.org writes:
Walter,
I know this is parochial, but WHAT SHOW, WHERE, WHEN?  Is it G4 TV? 
I've never heard of it.  So I'm igornant.

Ron Wallace

---- Original message ----
>Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 12:03:42 EST
>From: WWS2 <at> aol.com 
>Subject: [WISPA] G4 TV's Call For Help 
>To: wireless <at> wispa.org
>
>   This is a great show but today Leo made an error and I think
>   someone from WISPA should contact them and tell them about
>   WISP's.
>   
>   There was a caller today from Canada who was moving to where
>   there was no DSL or Cable, and asked about Satellite ISP.  Leo
>   talked about that and then mentioned new options WiMax and
>   BPL.  At no time did he mention WISP.  I did email Amanda [his
>   assistant] and the show about WISP and gave them the
>   www.wispa.org address, but also thought one of our leaders
>   could contact them and update them on what we are.
>   
>   
>   Walter W. Stumpf Jr.
>   Xanadu Group Inc.
>   Cognigen Founders' Club member
>   179 Statesville Quarry Road
>   Lafayette NJ 07848-3128 USA
>   973-702-3899
>   fax 775-667-1995
>   WISPA member
>   http://ld.net/?wstumpf
 
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<div>Okay-sorry Ron.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>G4 is a satellite/cable network that 
bought out the old TECH TV network.&nbsp; They deal mostly with 
technology-games/equipment/etc, although they have the infamous Man Show on at 
night.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Call For Help is an original TECH TV show 
that was on for years that G4 tried to kill when the took them over.&nbsp; 
Reason-it was on at 3pm and&nbsp;originally was geared to teens but they had a 
larger adult audience and G4 was stupid.&nbsp; The Canada version of G4 took Leo 
and the show&nbsp;on [he has a radio show and website and books].&nbsp; Finally 
after petitions and emails and campaigns protesting its cancelation, the USA 
version of G4 picked up the show [8am EST for me on Dish Network].&nbsp; Call 
For Help solves computer problems of viewers, talks about new software and 
hardware, viruses, websites, and more.&nbsp; I have learned a lot from Leo and 
crew-and I dont hold it against him that he likes Apple better than 
PC-but&nbsp;he does&nbsp;know both.&nbsp; </div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>It still is done live from Toronto Canada [used to be San Francisco and I 
believe near Leo's home in one of the Carolina's.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Call For Help is on Dish Network here in EST at 8am Monday-Friday, plus 
another time later in the day for the west coast.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Walter</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>In a message dated 11/30/2005 6:00:53 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
wireless-request <at> wispa.org writes:</div>
<blockquote>Walter,<br>I know this is parochial, but WHAT SHOW, WHERE, WHEN?&nbsp; 
  Is it G4 TV?&nbsp; <br>I've never heard of it.&nbsp; So I'm 
  igornant.<br><br>Ron Wallace<br><br>---- Original message ----<br>&gt;Date: 
  Wed, 30 Nov 2005 12:03:42 EST<br>&gt;From: WWS2 <at> aol.com&nbsp; <br>&gt;Subject: 
  [WISPA] G4 TV's Call For Help&nbsp; <br>&gt;To: 
  wireless <at> wispa.org<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; This is a great show but today 
  Leo made an error and I think<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; someone from WISPA should 
  contact them and tell them about<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; WISP's.<br>&gt;&nbsp; 
  &nbsp; <br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; There was a caller today from Canada who was 
  moving to where<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; there was no DSL or Cable, and asked about 
  Satellite ISP.&nbsp; Leo<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; talked about that and then 
  mentioned new options WiMax and<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; BPL.&nbsp; At no time did 
  he mention WISP.&nbsp; I did email Amanda [his<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; assistant] 
  and the show about WISP and gave them the<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; www.wispa.org 
  address, but also thought one of our leaders<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; could contact 
  them and update them on what we are.<br>&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; <br>&gt;&nbsp; 
  &nbsp; <br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; Walter W. Stumpf Jr.<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; Xanadu 
  Group Inc.<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; Cognigen Founders' Club 
  member<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; 179 Statesville Quarry Road<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  Lafayette NJ 07848-3128 USA<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  973-702-3899<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; fax 775-667-1995<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; WISPA 
  member<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; http://ld.net/?wstumpf<br>
</blockquote>
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Dylan Oliver | 1 Dec 2005 02:53
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[WISPA] marketing

Hi,

Just wondering how you all approach marketing. At the moment I'm interested in obtaining a list of addresses of all businesses within say a 150-mile radius of Spring Green, WI. What I really want is a list of every entity leasing T1s or greater! Somehow I doubt that this information will be easy to come by. I'm willing to work at this, and am happy to rip apart / cobble together sundry databases. I heard that one could obtain property tax records from the IRS, but haven't found anything on this most promising claim.

Suggestions?

Thanks,
--
Dylan Oliver
Primaverity, LLC

<div><p>Hi,<br><br>
Just wondering how you all approach marketing. At the moment I'm
interested in obtaining a list of addresses of all businesses within
say a 150-mile radius of Spring Green, WI. What I really want is a list
of every entity leasing T1s or greater! Somehow I doubt that this
information will be easy to come by. I'm willing to work at this, and
am happy to rip apart / cobble together sundry databases. I heard that
one could obtain property tax records from the IRS, but haven't found
anything on this most promising claim.<br clear="all"><br>
Suggestions?<br><br>
Thanks,<br>-- <br>Dylan Oliver<br>Primaverity, LLC
</p></div>
Tony Weasler | 1 Dec 2005 04:23

Re: [WISPA] marketing

Hi Dylan,

  Marketing practices depend on your business model and your
customers.  If you can only reach a few entities, it's usually best to
go directly to them with your pitch.  If you want widespread
publicity, more traditional channels are usually most efficient:
Radio, TV, billboards, etc.  If you're creative you can probably come
up with ways to get into this type of media very inexpensively.
Others have been successful with door-knob hangers.

  Obviously, your ILEC has the all the voice/data circuit information
you could ever want, but I have a feeling that they will sell you
their fiber routes before they sell you their customer list.

  You can get business records from infousa.com.  Most libraries have
a subscription.  Check with them before using it for commercial
purposes.  One of the columns the data has is number of computers.
It's probably not that accurate, but it may be better than nothing.

The IRS does not collect property taxes, local municipalities do.
Check your city's assessor's office.  It looks like Spring Green
farmed it out to: Krueger Appraisals, LLC/Greg Grandprey 608-837-6005.
 They may be able to give you the data on CD.  Note that the building
owner is not necessarily the business owner.

 - Tony

On 11/30/2005 7:53 PM, Dylan Oliver created:
> Hi,
> 
> Just wondering how you all approach marketing. At the moment I'm
> interested in obtaining a list of addresses of all businesses within say
> a 150-mile radius of Spring Green, WI. What I really want is a list of
> every entity leasing T1s or greater! Somehow I doubt that this
> information will be easy to come by. I'm willing to work at this, and am
> happy to rip apart / cobble together sundry databases. I heard that one
> could obtain property tax records from the IRS, but haven't found
> anything on this most promising claim.
> 
> Suggestions?
> 
> Thanks,
> -- 
> Dylan Oliver
> Primaverity, LLC
> 
Brian Rohrbacher | 1 Dec 2005 05:21

[WISPA] canopy

is canopy horizontal and vertical like trango?  Software switchable?
G.Villarini | 1 Dec 2005 05:25

RE: [WISPA] canopy

Nop, just vertical

Gino A. Villarini, 
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
gav <at> aeronetpr.com
www.aeronetpr.com
787.767.7466
-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 12:22 AM
To: wireless <at> wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] canopy

is canopy horizontal and vertical like trango?  Software switchable?
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A. Huppenthal | 1 Dec 2005 05:33

Re: [WISPA] canopy

unless you mount it horizontally. :-)

G.Villarini wrote:

>Nop, just vertical
>
>Gino A. Villarini, 
>Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>gav <at> aeronetpr.com
>www.aeronetpr.com
>787.767.7466
>-----Original Message-----
>From: wireless-bounces <at> wispa.org [mailto:wireless-bounces <at> wispa.org] On
>Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher
>Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 12:22 AM
>To: wireless <at> wispa.org
>Subject: [WISPA] canopy
>
>is canopy horizontal and vertical like trango?  Software switchable?
>  
>

Brian Rohrbacher | 1 Dec 2005 05:36

Re: [WISPA] canopy

Ok, then to go horizontal an external antenna is required.  Which also 
means, one would never be able to use the Canopy integrated unit.

Where do you Canopy users out there get your favorite 900 antennas at?

G.Villarini wrote:

>Nop, just vertical
>
>Gino A. Villarini, 
>Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>gav <at> aeronetpr.com
>www.aeronetpr.com
>787.767.7466
>-----Original Message-----
>From: wireless-bounces <at> wispa.org [mailto:wireless-bounces <at> wispa.org] On
>Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher
>Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 12:22 AM
>To: wireless <at> wispa.org
>Subject: [WISPA] canopy
>
>is canopy horizontal and vertical like trango?  Software switchable?
>  
>
G.Villarini | 1 Dec 2005 05:39

RE: [WISPA] canopy

Wait a sec, you talking 900 mhz? the integrated 900 units are
horizontal...both the ap and sm

Gino A. Villarini, 
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
gav <at> aeronetpr.com
www.aeronetpr.com
787.767.7466

-----Original Message-----
From: wireless-bounces <at> wispa.org [mailto:wireless-bounces <at> wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 12:36 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] canopy

Ok, then to go horizontal an external antenna is required.  Which also 
means, one would never be able to use the Canopy integrated unit.

Where do you Canopy users out there get your favorite 900 antennas at?

G.Villarini wrote:

>Nop, just vertical
>
>Gino A. Villarini, 
>Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>gav <at> aeronetpr.com
>www.aeronetpr.com
>787.767.7466
>-----Original Message-----
>From: wireless-bounces <at> wispa.org [mailto:wireless-bounces <at> wispa.org] On
>Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher
>Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 12:22 AM
>To: wireless <at> wispa.org
>Subject: [WISPA] canopy
>
>is canopy horizontal and vertical like trango?  Software switchable?
>  
>
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Brian Rohrbacher | 1 Dec 2005 06:00

Re: [WISPA] canopy

Ok, to clarify.  Moto does NOT make Vertical integrated units for 
900mhz?  All of moto's 900 gear is horizontal.

Next question.  900mhz sectors.  I was at the double radius site looking 
through antennas.  This antenna
http://www.tiltek.com/final/pdfs/TA-926H-4-120.pdf
looks nice.  What's the quality and price of it compared to other 900 
sectors?  It costs $525 for 3.
With my setup, I am not looking for capacity, I am looking for maximum 
coverage.  Would 3 120* sectors cover and penetrate the same area as 
using 6 60* integrated APs?  Or is the coverage of the 60* not enough of 
an improvement to justify the cost of 1 site with 6 antennas vs 2 sites 
with 3 on each?  I was thinking that the 60 x60 beam of the integrated 
units cover more than the 120 x 19 of the sectors.  And then there is 
the gain.....

Brian
G.Villarini wrote:

>Wait a sec, you talking 900 mhz? the integrated 900 units are
>horizontal...both the ap and sm
>
>Gino A. Villarini, 
>Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>gav <at> aeronetpr.com
>www.aeronetpr.com
>787.767.7466
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: wireless-bounces <at> wispa.org [mailto:wireless-bounces <at> wispa.org] On
>Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher
>Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 12:36 AM
>To: WISPA General List
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] canopy
>
>Ok, then to go horizontal an external antenna is required.  Which also 
>means, one would never be able to use the Canopy integrated unit.
>
>Where do you Canopy users out there get your favorite 900 antennas at?
>
>G.Villarini wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Nop, just vertical
>>
>>Gino A. Villarini, 
>>Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>gav <at> aeronetpr.com
>>www.aeronetpr.com
>>787.767.7466
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: wireless-bounces <at> wispa.org [mailto:wireless-bounces <at> wispa.org] On
>>Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher
>>Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 12:22 AM
>>To: wireless <at> wispa.org
>>Subject: [WISPA] canopy
>>
>>is canopy horizontal and vertical like trango?  Software switchable?
>> 
>>
>>    
>>
Peter R. | 1 Dec 2005 07:36

Re: [WISPA] marketing

You can lease such a detailed list from Harte-Hanks.
It will cost about $2 per lead, but it will be detailed.

You can get lists of new businesses from your Secretary of State's office.

Property lists are public record. Some are online; some you have to go 
to the Appraisor's office.

Great article in one of the newletters I get about marketing:
http://www.rad-info.net/newsletters/coldcall1.htm

Regards,

Peter
RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist
We Help ISPs Connect & Communicate
813.963.5884 
http://4isps.com

ISP Expo in Tampa, Dec. 9 & 10

Dylan Oliver wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Just wondering how you all approach marketing. At the moment I'm 
> interested in obtaining a list of addresses of all businesses within 
> say a 150-mile radius of Spring Green, WI. What I really want is a 
> list of every entity leasing T1s or greater! Somehow I doubt that this 
> information will be easy to come by. I'm willing to work at this, and 
> am happy to rip apart / cobble together sundry databases. I heard that 
> one could obtain property tax records from the IRS, but haven't found 
> anything on this most promising claim.
>
> Suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
> -- 
> Dylan Oliver
> Primaverity, LLC 


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