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Steve Bertrand | 1 May 2009 15:25
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Domain Registrar recommendation

Hi all,

Over the past 10 years or so, I've been dealing with a relatively small
registrar in my local area for my personal domains (canadiandomain.com).
Unfortunately, they can not provide IPv6 glue.

A few months ago, I registered a handful more personal domains (which
are currently idle) at godaddy.com, as apparently they can provide IPv6
glue.

I am going to set up one of the new domains as strictly IPv6 only for
statistics gathering. The point is, is that I haven't 'configured' any
of the domains at GoDaddy yet, so I am not experienced in regards to
their reliability.

Before I migrate my primary domain (ibctech.ca) to a new registrar so I
can have v6 glue, I'm looking for feedback on whether it is advisable to
move it to GoDaddy, or if I should look elsewhere.

I've heard horror stories about GoDaddy domains randomly being shut
down, and it taking weeks of circular dancing in order to justify having
it re-enabled. I can not have that happening. Moreover, I want as smooth
as possible transition

All feedback appreciated.

Steve
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Daniel Austin MBCS | 1 May 2009 16:41

Re: Domain Registrar recommendation

Hi Steve,

I've always found Enom to be fine with IPv6 glue records (although I have to raise support tickets to get them
done, they are usually done within a couple of hours)
I don't have any experience of Godaddy though - the name in itself has always been enough to put me off them :)

>---- Original Message ----
>From: Steve Bertrand <steve <at> ibctech.ca>
>To: ipv6-ops <at> lists.cluenet.de
>Sent: Fri, May 1, 2009, 2:25 PM
>Subject: Domain Registrar recommendation
>
>Hi all,
>
>Over the past 10 years or so, I've been dealing with a relatively small
>registrar in my local area for my personal domains (canadiandomain.com).
>Unfortunately, they can not provide IPv6 glue.
>
>A few months ago, I registered a handful more personal domains (which
>are currently idle) at godaddy.com, as apparently they can provide IPv6
>glue.
>
>I am going to set up one of the new domains as strictly IPv6 only for
>statistics gathering. The point is, is that I haven't 'configured' any
>of the domains at GoDaddy yet, so I am not experienced in regards to
>their reliability.
>
>Before I migrate my primary domain (ibctech.ca) to a new registrar so I
>can have v6 glue, I'm looking for feedback on whether it is advisable to
>move it to GoDaddy, or if I should look elsewhere.
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Leo Baltus | 1 May 2009 17:04
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Cannot assign requested address

Hello,

We are trying to set up services using home-brewed scripts to set-up
ipv6 adresses and bind services to them, just as we do this for ipv4.

Using a fairly recent linux kernel (2.6.27.21), or any other linux
kernel I can get my hands on, the following scripts fails:

ip -f inet6 a add ::2/128 dev eth0 && nc -l ::2 1234
nc: Cannot assign requested address

An EADDRNOTAVAIL is issued.

Basically, we set up an ipv6 address and let nc listen on it.

Introducing a 2 sec. sleep between setting up the interface and
bind()'ing to it, seems to be the only workaround I have found.

Is there somebody here who knows what is going on, or why this is
different from ipv4?

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Bernhard Schmidt | 1 May 2009 17:43
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Re: Cannot assign requested address

Hi Leo,

> We are trying to set up services using home-brewed scripts to set-up
> ipv6 adresses and bind services to them, just as we do this for ipv4.
> 
> Using a fairly recent linux kernel (2.6.27.21), or any other linux
> kernel I can get my hands on, the following scripts fails:
> 
> ip -f inet6 a add ::2/128 dev eth0 && nc -l ::2 1234
> nc: Cannot assign requested address
> 
> An EADDRNOTAVAIL is issued.
> 
> Basically, we set up an ipv6 address and let nc listen on it.
> 
> Introducing a 2 sec. sleep between setting up the interface and
> bind()'ing to it, seems to be the only workaround I have found.

You are most probably hit by Duplicate Address Detection as defined in 
RFC2462 Section 5.4. You will probably see the address being "tentative" 
in ip -6 addr while the DAD is run.

You can disable DAD on the interface setting the sysctl variable 
net.ipv6.conf.et0.dad_transmits to 0, or enable the optimistic DAD 
support (RFC4429) in recent Linux kernels.

Bernhard
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Charles | 1 May 2009 18:46

Re: Domain Registrar recommendation

I use domainsite and am rolling out my sites over v6. 


------Original Message------
From: Daniel Austin MBCS
Sender: ipv6-ops-bounces+charles=thewybles.com <at> lists.cluenet.de
To: ipv6-ops <at> lists.cluenet.de
To: Steve Bertrand
Subject: Re: Domain Registrar recommendation
Sent: May 1, 2009 7:41 AM

Hi Steve,

I've always found Enom to be fine with IPv6 glue records (although I have to raise support tickets to get them
done, they are usually done within a couple of hours)
I don't have any experience of Godaddy though - the name in itself has always been enough to put me off them :)

>---- Original Message ----
>From: Steve Bertrand <steve <at> ibctech.ca>
>To: ipv6-ops <at> lists.cluenet.de
>Sent: Fri, May 1, 2009, 2:25 PM
>Subject: Domain Registrar recommendation
>
>Hi all,
>
>Over the past 10 years or so, I've been dealing with a relatively small
>registrar in my local area for my personal domains (canadiandomain.com).
>Unfortunately, they can not provide IPv6 glue.
>
>A few months ago, I registered a handful more personal domains (which
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Tim | 1 May 2009 18:55
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Re: Domain Registrar recommendation

I've been shopping for a cheap personal registrar as well and have
some of the same issues with GoDaddy.

> I use domainsite and am rolling out my sites over v6. 

Do they allow you to set v6 glue records?  What is the process?  Can
it be done through a web interface or does it require a support
ticket?

thanks!
tim
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Chris Burton | 1 May 2009 19:18

Re: Domain Registrar recommendation

> I've always found Enom to be fine with IPv6 glue records (although I have 
> to raise support tickets to get them done, they are usually done within a 
> couple of hours)
> I don't have any experience of Godaddy though - the name in itself has 
> always been enough to put me off them :)

I found enom OK after the first few tickets saying it wasn't possible, 
subsequent requests have gone through quite quickly though. You can setup 
just IPv4 OR IPv6 glue via the web interface just not both.

Chris.
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Steve Bertrand | 1 May 2009 19:35
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Re: Domain Registrar recommendation

Tim wrote:
> I've been shopping for a cheap personal registrar as well and have
> some of the same issues with GoDaddy.

Regarding issues, are you saying that you have experienced some of the
problems that I originally was enquiring about, ie. GoDaddy disabling
your domain for no apparent reason?

I'm going to enable the domains I have registered there now (after I get
my zones set up), but I am extremely hesitant about migrating my
existing domain until I can get more details/feedback from others.

My current domain is generally only used for email for myself and
family, but given that I belong to ~30 mailing lists and is my primary
source of personal email communication (~1k messages a day), it would
not be good if it went down, even for a short time.

>> I use domainsite and am rolling out my sites over v6. 
> 
> Do they allow you to set v6 glue records?  What is the process?  Can
> it be done through a web interface or does it require a support
> ticket?

The ISP I work for hosts ~400 domains, almost all of them are registered
through OpenSRS. My experience with them has been very good, and my
understanding is that they are in the process of rolling out IPv6 glue
ability at this time, and can manually do it for "critical" domains[1]
if a ticket is opened. I don't consider my domain to be 'critical', so
I'm holding off migrating my domain under the work account at OpenSRS.
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Tim | 1 May 2009 20:35
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> Regarding issues, are you saying that you have experienced some of the
> problems that I originally was enquiring about, ie. GoDaddy disabling
> your domain for no apparent reason?

I've just heard lots of bad things about them, directly related to the
issues you mentioned.

> My current domain is generally only used for email for myself and
> family, but given that I belong to ~30 mailing lists and is my primary
> source of personal email communication (~1k messages a day), it would
> not be good if it went down, even for a short time.

I'm basically in the same situation.

> The ISP I work for hosts ~400 domains, almost all of them are registered
> through OpenSRS. My experience with them has been very good, and my
> understanding is that they are in the process of rolling out IPv6 glue
> ability at this time, and can manually do it for "critical" domains[1]
> if a ticket is opened. I don't consider my domain to be 'critical', so
> I'm holding off migrating my domain under the work account at OpenSRS.

That's good to know.  I ran across bookmyname.com, which supposedly
supports v6 glue, but I'd love to hear others' experiences with them
before trying them out.

cheers,
tim
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Steve Bertrand | 1 May 2009 22:28
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Re: Domain Registrar recommendation

Tim wrote:
>> Regarding issues, are you saying that you have experienced some of the
>> problems that I originally was enquiring about, ie. GoDaddy disabling
>> your domain for no apparent reason?
> 
> I've just heard lots of bad things about them, directly related to the
> issues you mentioned.
> 
>> My current domain is generally only used for email for myself and
>> family, but given that I belong to ~30 mailing lists and is my primary
>> source of personal email communication (~1k messages a day), it would
>> not be good if it went down, even for a short time.
> 
> I'm basically in the same situation.
> 
>> The ISP I work for hosts ~400 domains, almost all of them are registered
>> through OpenSRS. My experience with them has been very good, and my
>> understanding is that they are in the process of rolling out IPv6 glue
>> ability at this time, and can manually do it for "critical" domains[1]
>> if a ticket is opened. I don't consider my domain to be 'critical', so
>> I'm holding off migrating my domain under the work account at OpenSRS.
> 
> That's good to know.  I ran across bookmyname.com, which supposedly
> supports v6 glue, but I'd love to hear others' experiences with them
> before trying them out.

Well, it appears as though I am out of luck. I should of read the fine
print ;)

All of my domains are .ca. Although CIRA is capable of handling IPv6
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