Interesting ... comments anyone?

RE: Interesting ... comments anyone?

Re: Interesting ... comments anyone?

>     Sex.com case heralds end of Internet - NSI
>     Court filing reveals doomsday scenario
>         http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/29152.html

End of the internet, no.
A bit of responsibilty for the domain registrars, hopefully.

It appears both sides are attempting to sway the opinion (of the public
and the judges(s))

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Re: Interesting ... comments anyone?

>     Sex.com case heralds end of Internet - NSI
>     Court filing reveals doomsday scenario

One can only hope that the parties involved come to their senses ...

This sort of thing would probably not have happened if more TLD's were
made available initially.  Good (i.e. generic, single word) 2nd hand .com
domains are being sold for astronomical prices.

rgrds,

Johan

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RE: Interesting ... comments anyone?

It blown out of all proportion. It is inevitable that with the number of
registrations and updates taking place on a daily basis that mistakes
will happen. What is needed is a method to rectify the errors as quickly
as possible. Its ludicrous to try and hold a company responsible for loss
of earnings for millions of dollars because some minnion of a company did
not double check a signiture or spot forgery. The case should never have
gone on for as long as it did.

-tom

> I think NSI is clutching as straws, they know they are in the wrong for
> what they did.  I don't know much about the law or their contracts, but
> I think they're just looking for an excuse to raise the prices, somewhat
> like most south africans do when the rand went a bit wobbly, but when it
> stabilised again, the prices never fell!
>
> Regards
>
> --Craig
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>     Sex.com case heralds end of Internet - NSI
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Re: Interesting ... comments anyone?

Thomas Cleghorn wrote:
 > Its ludicrous to try and hold a company responsible for loss
 > of earnings for millions of dollars because some minnion of a company did
 > not double check a signiture or spot forgery. The case should never have
 > gone on for as long as it did.

But (at least as far as I understand things) the case went on for as
long as it did /because/ NSI refused to admit it had done anything
wrong in the first place, and refused to reverse the fraudulent domain
name transfer when it was drawn to their attention.

Ant.

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[Fwd: US Grants ICANN Extension of Global Domain Powers]

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: US Grants ICANN Extension of Global Domain Powers
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 11:53:27 -0500
From: "Pierre Dandjinou" <dandjinou.pierre@...>
To: <aig@...>

US Grants ICANN Extension of Global Domain Powers

By Kevin Murphy
February 3, 2003

ICANN, which manages policy aspects of the internet's domain name system, is
to be granted a three-year extension of its powers to manage the world's
country-code domain names, ComputerWire has learned.

The US Department of Commerce last week quietly published a document
detailing its decision to "sole-source" the contract for the so-called IANA
function to ICANN, as opposed to opening the contract for competitive
bidding.

ICANN and a spokesperson for the DoC's National Telecommunications and
Information Administration both confirmed the extension, although ICANN
general counsel Louis Touton added that no contract has yet been signed. ANA
is responsible for maintaining the definitive list of which organizations,
individuals, and domain servers are associated with
approximately 240 country-code top-level domains (ccTLDs), such as .uk,
.us,and .fr.

The decision will cause concern to some in the international
community,particularly those concerned in the policy aspects of the
ccTLD -industry. Some ccTLD operators had considered a counter-bid for the
IANA contract before its March expiration.

A statement buried six clicks into a Federal web site heavily suggests That
the ICANN-DoC Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) and the IANA contract are
essentially inseparable, and that ICANN is the only party fit to run IANA.

The NTIA document said that ICANN, having assumed "key resources and
associated privatization responsibilities under the MoU" is therefore the
"only responsible entity that can continue to provide seamless performance
of the IANA functions".

As a further link, the three-year IANA contract will come up for renewal at
periods of six months, one year, one year, and six months - paced to
coincide exactly with the times the MoU comes up for renewal, Touton and the
NTIA said.

ICANN's Touton added that the decision was made because of how closely
linked the policy-making functions of ICANN are with the policy-implementing
functions of IANA, and that it "wouldn't make sense" for a third party to
take over IANA.

ICANN has been accused in the past of using the IANA function to further its
own ends. One of the Herculean tasks in the MoU requires ICANN to sign
stable operating agreements with each of the ccTLD operators, but this has
proved difficult.

In the majority of the cases when ICANN has signed such an agreement, it has
coincided with the re-delegation of a ccTLD to a new operator. The most
recent such deal was with the new government of Afghanistan.

Last October, a number of ccTLDs, disgruntled with their treatment by ICANN
over the four years of its existence, said they would consider mounting a
bid to take over the IANA function, being the groups most affected by its
decisions.

But the current international political climate would have made the US
venturing outside its borders for a contractor unlikely. Recent
denial-of-service attacks against the DNS root servers has created a mindset
among some where the DNS is a US national, rather than international,
resource that must be protected against "terrorism" like any physical
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Spam education needed - Lazerlink

Greetings IOZ'ers

I'm sure we had a thread last year about Lazerlink...

read their response to my cease and desist request... 

ta

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Francois Visser - Lazer Link Corporation
[mailto:Francois@...]
Sent: 07 February 2003 01:09 AM
To: Mike Wright
Subject: Re: Enquiry

Hi Mike.

This is definately not a spam.  If anybody are interested in receiving our
specials lists, they just reply. We obtained your addy from a whois on the
server.  If the specific person is not interested, we just discard the email
addy.  We give people the option to be on our list.

Regards,

Francois Visser
Lazer Link Corporation SA (Pty) Ltd.
Tel: +27 11 902 9691
Fax: +27 11 902 3847
E-mail: francois@...
Web: www.lazerlink.co.za
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Mike Wright 
To: 'Francois Visser - Lazer Link Corporation' 
Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 4:53 AM
Subject: RE: Enquiry

Francios - how did you get my address ? 

I was spammed by Lazerlink last year and I hope it's not a start of another
round...

-----Original Message-----
From: Francois Visser - Lazer Link Corporation
[mailto:Francois@...]
Sent: 06 February 2003 11:55 PM
To: mikew@...
Subject: Enquiry

 Lazer Link Corporation SA (Pty) Ltd.
Tel: 27 11 902-3847
Fax: 27 11 902-9691
Website: www.lazerlink.co.za Vat reg: 4550148623
Co. reg: 1989/05387/07

Hi there,

Lazer Link Corporation is a company who specialises in Notebook/Laptop
computers. 

We do the following:
Sale of New & Pre-Owned Notebook Computers 
Trade-Ins 
Repairs 
Upgrades

Are you are interested in receiving our weekly specials?  Let me know.

You can contact me in the following ways:
E-mail: francois@...
Tel: 011 902 3847
Fax: 011 902 9691

Regards,

Francois Visser
Lazer Link Corporation SA (Pty) Ltd.
Tel: +27 11 902 9691
Fax: +27 11 902 3847
E-mail: francois@...
Web: www.lazerlink.co.za

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Re: Spam education needed - Lazerlink

Noooo, Mike, what have you done.  You replied, now they will think you are 
interested and send you more crappy offers.

I hate this kind of email, I get so many of these damn things daily... 
worst is the ones from outside ZA with no unsubscribe thing.

Good luck with getting them to stop.

--Craig

On Thu, 6 Feb 2003 15:17:41 +0200, "Mike Wright" <mikew@...> 
wrote :

> Greetings IOZ'ers
> 
> I'm sure we had a thread last year about Lazerlink...
> 
> read their response to my cease and desist request... 
> 
> ta
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Francois Visser - Lazer Link Corporation
> [mailto:Francois@...]
> Sent: 07 February 2003 01:09 AM
> To: Mike Wright
> Subject: Re: Enquiry
> 
> 
> Hi Mike.
> 
> This is definately not a spam.  If anybody are interested in receiving 
our
> specials lists, they just reply. We obtained your addy from a whois on 
the
> server.  If the specific person is not interested, we just discard the 
email
> addy.  We give people the option to be on our list.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Francois Visser
> Lazer Link Corporation SA (Pty) Ltd.
> Tel: +27 11 902 9691
> Fax: +27 11 902 3847
> E-mail: francois@...
> Web: www.lazerlink.co.za
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Mike Wright 
> To: 'Francois Visser - Lazer Link Corporation' 
> Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 4:53 AM
> Subject: RE: Enquiry
> 
> 
> Francios - how did you get my address ? 
> 
> I was spammed by Lazerlink last year and I hope it's not a start of 
another
> round...
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Francois Visser - Lazer Link Corporation
> [mailto:Francois@...]
> Sent: 06 February 2003 11:55 PM
> To: mikew@...
> Subject: Enquiry
> 
> 
> 
>  Lazer Link Corporation SA (Pty) Ltd.
> Tel: 27 11 902-3847
> Fax: 27 11 902-9691
> Website: www.lazerlink.co.za Vat reg: 4550148623
> Co. reg: 1989/05387/07
> 
> 
> Hi there,
> 
> Lazer Link Corporation is a company who specialises in Notebook/Laptop
> computers. 
> 
> We do the following:
> Sale of New & Pre-Owned Notebook Computers 
> Trade-Ins 
> Repairs 
> Upgrades
> 
> Are you are interested in receiving our weekly specials?  Let me know.
> 
> You can contact me in the following ways:
> E-mail: francois@...
> Tel: 011 902 3847
> Fax: 011 902 9691
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 
> Francois Visser
> Lazer Link Corporation SA (Pty) Ltd.
> Tel: +27 11 902 9691
> Fax: +27 11 902 3847
> E-mail: francois@...
> Web: www.lazerlink.co.za
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RE: Spam education needed - Lazerlink

I remember this lot, they're getting the addresses from CO.ZA Whois. 

I remember somebody having the same arguement with them last year

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Wright [mailto:mikew@...]
Sent: 06 February 2003 15:18
To: 'ioz@...'
Subject: [IOZ] Spam education needed - Lazerlink

Greetings IOZ'ers

I'm sure we had a thread last year about Lazerlink...

read their response to my cease and desist request... 

ta

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Francois Visser - Lazer Link Corporation
[mailto:Francois@...]
Sent: 07 February 2003 01:09 AM
To: Mike Wright
Subject: Re: Enquiry

Hi Mike.

This is definately not a spam.  If anybody are interested in receiving our
specials lists, they just reply. We obtained your addy from a whois on the
server.  If the specific person is not interested, we just discard the email
addy.  We give people the option to be on our list.

Regards,

Francois Visser
Lazer Link Corporation SA (Pty) Ltd.
Tel: +27 11 902 9691
Fax: +27 11 902 3847
E-mail: francois@...
Web: www.lazerlink.co.za
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Mike Wright 
To: 'Francois Visser - Lazer Link Corporation' 
Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 4:53 AM
Subject: RE: Enquiry

Francios - how did you get my address ? 

I was spammed by Lazerlink last year and I hope it's not a start of another
round...

-----Original Message-----
From: Francois Visser - Lazer Link Corporation
[mailto:Francois@...]
Sent: 06 February 2003 11:55 PM
To: mikew@...
Subject: Enquiry

 Lazer Link Corporation SA (Pty) Ltd.
Tel: 27 11 902-3847
Fax: 27 11 902-9691
Website: www.lazerlink.co.za Vat reg: 4550148623
Co. reg: 1989/05387/07

Hi there,

Lazer Link Corporation is a company who specialises in Notebook/Laptop
computers. 

We do the following:
Sale of New & Pre-Owned Notebook Computers 
Trade-Ins 
Repairs 
Upgrades

Are you are interested in receiving our weekly specials?  Let me know.

You can contact me in the following ways:
E-mail: francois@...
Tel: 011 902 3847
Fax: 011 902 9691

Regards,

Francois Visser
Lazer Link Corporation SA (Pty) Ltd.
Tel: +27 11 902 9691
Fax: +27 11 902 3847
E-mail: francois@...
Web: www.lazerlink.co.za

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