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Eduard Llach | 14 Nov 2004 03:22

Hi

Hi there, I'm a Delphi developer ... and i've done some things with 
Delphi/Win32API and VirtualPascal/OS2api ... but i'm interested in a 
more productive development environment for OS/2 ( and if is possible, 
portable to windows )

I've seen Sybil development environment, it's really impressive. And 
some applications done with it, like PDE ... really good applications! 
I've tryied it, but I can't compile, I think I need SpeedPascal 
Compiler, but is not for sale any more ( or anywhere ). Is there any way 
to get it?

Also, I would be glad to help with Sybil development ( or testing, 
improving, importing components, do applications, btw ... ) if you let 
me ( well, I Always was sure that i must have to learn german, now I 
know why ).

Sorry for my poor english ... I'm from Catalonia ( and member of 
TeamOS/2 Spain ).

Edu
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Dave Parsons | 14 Nov 2004 09:55
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Re: Hi

On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 03:22:28 +0100, Eduard Llach wrote:

> Hi there, I'm a Delphi developer ... and i've done some things with 
> Delphi/Win32API and VirtualPascal/OS2api ... but i'm interested in a 
> more productive development environment for OS/2 ( and if is possible, 
> portable to windows )
> 
> I've seen Sybil development environment, it's really impressive. And 
> some applications done with it, like PDE ... really good applications! 
> I've tryied it, but I can't compile, I think I need SpeedPascal 
> Compiler, but is not for sale any more ( or anywhere ). Is there any way 
> to get it?
> 
> Also, I would be glad to help with Sybil development ( or testing, 
> improving, importing components, do applications, btw ... ) if you let 
> me ( well, I Always was sure that i must have to learn german, now I 
> know why ).

Hello & welcome to the list.

I understand from what you have said that you have downloaded
WDSibyl from http://members.chello.at/webstar/wdsibyl.html.

The compiler, SPC25.EXE, was in OS2IDE.ZIP in earlier versions,
but I have just checked and the current version, 22-10-04, is
only 2MByte instead of previously 4MByte.
Many files are now missing, including the compiler.

Wolfgang, can you take a look please.
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Wolfgang | 14 Nov 2004 11:52
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Re: Hi

Hello!

>>Hi there, I'm a Delphi developer ... and i've done some things with 
>>Delphi/Win32API and VirtualPascal/OS2api ... but i'm interested in a 
>>more productive development environment for OS/2 ( and if is possible, 
>>portable to windows )
>>
>>I've seen Sybil development environment, it's really impressive. And 
>>some applications done with it, like PDE ... really good applications! 
>>I've tryied it, but I can't compile, I think I need SpeedPascal 
>>Compiler, but is not for sale any more ( or anywhere ). Is there any way 
>>to get it?
>>
>>Also, I would be glad to help with Sybil development ( or testing, 
>>improving, importing components, do applications, btw ... ) if you let 
>>me ( well, I Always was sure that i must have to learn german, now I 
>>know why ).
>>    
>>
>
>Hello & welcome to the list.
>
>I understand from what you have said that you have downloaded
>WDSibyl from http://members.chello.at/webstar/wdsibyl.html.
>
>The compiler, SPC25.EXE, was in OS2IDE.ZIP in earlier versions,
>but I have just checked and the current version, 22-10-04, is
>only 2MByte instead of previously 4MByte.
>Many files are now missing, including the compiler.
>
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Dave Parsons | 14 Nov 2004 12:26
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Re: Hi

On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 11:52:51 +0100, Wolfgang wrote:

> Hello!
> 
> >
> >The compiler, SPC25.EXE, was in OS2IDE.ZIP in earlier versions,
> >but I have just checked and the current version, 22-10-04, is
> >only 2MByte instead of previously 4MByte.
> >Many files are now missing, including the compiler.
> >
> >Wolfgang, can you take a look please.
> >  
> >
> 
> I have check it. The Size is ok, because I have delete some Files.
> e.g. TipOfDay.txt, *.mk, SPCW20.EXE, ICEDIT.EXE, DBExplorer.EXE....
> I have remove this files, because it is not necessary, I have not the 
> Source or it has has any errors.
> But WDSibyl must startet.
> 
> The SPCC25.EXE are not exist, because there ist a new Version from me 
> WDSPC10.EXE. This use at the moment the SPDLL25.dll, but when a new 
> compiler exist, than the file SPDLL25.dll were delete.
> Other Files were in the Future change.

Ah, ok. I wondered about that new file but I haven't had time
to install the latest version yet.
What are you basing the new compiler on, or are you intending
to start from scratch? That would seem to be a lot of work.
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Eduard Llach | 14 Nov 2004 13:19

Re: Hi

Yes! I've compiled OK ...

Just only a few things:

* "Save all" menu does not save the project ( spr ) file. You can only 
save the project manually when closing the IDE.

* If you try to compile the project without having the project's file 
saved, then IDE beeps but no error message is shown. Is by this reason I 
thought I can't compile with this version. With last "bug", if you try 
to start a new project, you can't compile it until you close the IDE and 
save the project, and then you reopen the IDE to work.

* When starting the IDE It alerts me I need to have at least two 
help-files. Is there any way to remove this warning or get this files?
   - WDSybil.HLP
   - OS2API.HLP

* Some message appears in german. Well, now I know that "Abbruch" is 
cancel ;). Really isn't important.

* It could be really pretty if there was a "Close" in file menu, to 
close the active tab in Window Editor ( or in a "Popup Menu" over the 
tab ). Also, a "Close All" could be pretty or a "Open Project" which 
replaces the current open project ... or "recent projects" option,  But 
both best implemented than in Delphi 7, which make Delphi's IDE crash 
sometimes ;)

If you want I can try to fix some of this ... what policy follow you to 
post source's updates?
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Wolfgang | 14 Nov 2004 13:45
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Re: Re: Hi

Hello Eduard!

> Just only a few things:
>
> * "Save all" menu does not save the project ( spr ) file. You can only 
> save the project manually when closing the IDE.

That I must look in the Source.
You can use the Mneu "Project/Save", than the SPR-Files are seved.

>
> * If you try to compile the project without having the project's file 
> saved, then IDE beeps but no error message is shown. Is by this reason 
> I thought I can't compile with this version. With last "bug", if you 
> try to start a new project, you can't compile it until you close the 
> IDE and save the project, and then you reopen the IDE to work.

Thank you for the Info. Perhaps I can correct this.

> * When starting the IDE It alerts me I need to have at least two 
> help-files. Is there any way to remove this warning or get this files?
>   - WDSybil.HLP
>   - OS2API.HLP

I have send you the HLP-Files. The Problem is, not actual

>
> * Some message appears in german. Well, now I know that "Abbruch" is 
> cancel ;). Really isn't important.
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Eduard Llach | 14 Nov 2004 14:01

Re: Hi

Wolfgang wrote:
> Hello Eduard!
> 
>> Just only a few things:
>>
>> * "Save all" menu does not save the project ( spr ) file. You can only 
>> save the project manually when closing the IDE.
> 
> 
> 
> That I must look in the Source.
> You can use the Mneu "Project/Save", than the SPR-Files are seved.
> 
OK!
>>
>> * If you try to compile the project without having the project's file 
>> saved, then IDE beeps but no error message is shown. Is by this reason 
>> I thought I can't compile with this version. With last "bug", if you 
>> try to start a new project, you can't compile it until you close the 
>> IDE and save the project, and then you reopen the IDE to work.
> 
> 
> 
> Thank you for the Info. Perhaps I can correct this.
ok again
> 
>> * When starting the IDE It alerts me I need to have at least two 
>> help-files. Is there any way to remove this warning or get this files?
>>   - WDSybil.HLP
>>   - OS2API.HLP
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Eduard Llach | 14 Nov 2004 14:18

German Messages in WD_Sybil

   - Dialog buttons : "Cancel" and "Help" appears as "Abburch" and 
"Hilfe" everywhere, with the hints in german too. Also for "Ja", and "Nein".
   - Component Palette : "Zusatz" and "Beispiele" tag's
   - Find/Replace Dialog : Completly in german

Maybe you need to "Build All" the project again, deleting all SPU files.

   - View/Browser : If there's no compiled unit (new project, for 
example ), it crashes, raises an exception ( in german too ) and makes 
whole sybil crash.

    - Can the behaivor of undo be changed? as an example, if I press 
Ctrl+Z undo last change, but if I press ctrl+backspace appear the dialog 
box. it could be relatively "easy" to do, just calling the sliding undo 
on the backgroud and undoing only one change automatically.

Thanks
Edu
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Dave Parsons | 14 Nov 2004 17:19
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Re: German Messages in WD_Sybil

On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 14:18:08 +0100, Eduard Llach wrote:

>    - Dialog buttons : "Cancel" and "Help" appears as "Abburch" and 
> "Hilfe" everywhere, with the hints in german too. Also for "Ja", and "Nein".
>    - Component Palette : "Zusatz" and "Beispiele" tag's
>    - Find/Replace Dialog : Completly in german
> 
> Maybe you need to "Build All" the project again, deleting all SPU files.
> 
>    - View/Browser : If there's no compiled unit (new project, for 
> example ), it crashes, raises an exception ( in german too ) and makes 
> whole sybil crash.
> 
>     - Can the behaivor of undo be changed? as an example, if I press 
> Ctrl+Z undo last change, but if I press ctrl+backspace appear the dialog 
> box. it could be relatively "easy" to do, just calling the sliding undo 
> on the backgroud and undoing only one change automatically.
> 
> Thanks
> Edu
> 

Apart from the above, the build messages below the editor window
are also bilingual, e.g.

Starte Compiler fuer OS/2
...
Ende Compiler

Also most of the default paths are wrong which caused the
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Wolfgang | 15 Nov 2004 08:03
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Re: German Messages in WD_Sybil

Hello!

>>   - Dialog buttons : "Cancel" and "Help" appears as "Abburch" and 
>>"Hilfe" everywhere, with the hints in german too. Also for "Ja", and "Nein".
>>   - Component Palette : "Zusatz" and "Beispiele" tag's
>>   - Find/Replace Dialog : Completly in german
>>
>>Maybe you need to "Build All" the project again, deleting all SPU files.
>>
>>   - View/Browser : If there's no compiled unit (new project, for 
>>example ), it crashes, raises an exception ( in german too ) and makes 
>>whole sybil crash.
>>
>>    - Can the behaivor of undo be changed? as an example, if I press 
>>Ctrl+Z undo last change, but if I press ctrl+backspace appear the dialog 
>>box. it could be relatively "easy" to do, just calling the sliding undo 
>>on the backgroud and undoing only one change automatically.
>>
>>Thanks
>>Edu
>>
>>    
>>
>
>Apart from the above, the build messages below the editor window
>are also bilingual, e.g.
>
>Starte Compiler fuer OS/2
>...
>Ende Compiler
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