Jeffrey Race | 1 Jun 10:49 2005
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Re: Skype

On Tue, 31 May 2005 22:20:35 +0200, Sini¹a Pavloviæ wrote:
>** Reply to message from Kenn Yuill <kenn.yuill <at> sympatico.ca> on Thu, 26 May
>2005 18:36:14 -0400>
>> IMHO, It is likely that Skype would be more receptive to making a 
>> version for Java, rather than any native one for the various operating 
>> systems other than Windows.>They already have it for Linux, and Mac and PocketPC, I think, but if it is for
>Java, and it works, I will not complain. ;-)>--
>Pozdrav iz Doboja, Republika Srpska	Visit: http://www.srpska.com

For a VoIP client running in a Java sandbox, without any downloaded
local executable:

 <http://theswitchboard.ca>

I've not had time to try it yet but read about it in the Wall Street Journal.
Anyone who can test, please advise result.    I am running  temporarily a
Win2K box and could be one end if someone wants to test with me.

Jeffrey Race

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Ed Durrant | 1 Jun 12:35 2005
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Re: Skype

Jeffrey Race wrote:

>On Tue, 31 May 2005 22:20:35 +0200, Sini¹a Pavloviæ wrote:
>  
>
>>** Reply to message from Kenn Yuill <kenn.yuill <at> sympatico.ca> on Thu, 26 May
>>2005 18:36:14 -0400>
>>    
>>
>>>IMHO, It is likely that Skype would be more receptive to making a 
>>>version for Java, rather than any native one for the various operating 
>>>systems other than Windows.>They already have it for Linux, and Mac and PocketPC, I think, but if it is for
>>>      
>>>
>>Java, and it works, I will not complain. ;-)>--
>>Pozdrav iz Doboja, Republika Srpska	Visit: http://www.srpska.com
>>    
>>
>
>For a VoIP client running in a Java sandbox, without any downloaded
>local executable:
>
> <http://theswitchboard.ca>
>
>I've not had time to try it yet but read about it in the Wall Street Journal.
>Anyone who can test, please advise result.    I am running  temporarily a
>Win2K box and could be one end if someone wants to test with me.
>
>Jeffrey Race
>
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Sam Lewis | 4 Jun 17:11 2005

Ipodder 2.0.5

I downloaded Ipodder and it installed without a hitch.  However when I 
run it the Icon gets the slashes for a second or two then goes back to 
normal and nothing happens.  In the popuplog.os2 I get this

06-04-2005  09:49:39  SYS3171  PID 004c  TID 0001  Slot 00b1
E:\ODIN\SYSTEM32\PE.EXE
c0000005
1504fbdc
P1=00000002  P2=0002ffec  P3=XXXXXXXX  P4=XXXXXXXX 
EAX=0003020c  EBX=000005a0  ECX=00030124  EDX=00030124
ESI=00005460  EDI=0003020c 
DS=0053  DSACC=f0f3  DSLIM=ffffffff 
ES=0053  ESACC=f0f3  ESLIM=ffffffff 
FS=150b  FSACC=00f3  FSLIM=00000030
GS=0000  GSACC=****  GSLIM=********
CS:EIP=005b:1504fbdc  CSACC=f0df  CSLIM=ffffffff
SS:ESP=0053:0002fff0  SSACC=f0f3  SSLIM=ffffffff
EBP=00030114  FLG=00012206

WGSS50.DLL 0001:0002fbdc

It can be downloaded here
http://ipodder.sourceforge.net/index.php

Is there something I can do to correct this? 

Thanks,
Sam

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Gregory L. Marx | 4 Jun 18:30 2005
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Re: Ipodder 2.0.5

Sam Lewis wrote:

> I downloaded Ipodder and it installed without a hitch.  However when I 
> run it the Icon gets the slashes for a second or two then goes back to 
> normal and nothing happens.  In the popuplog.os2 I get this
>
> 06-04-2005  09:49:39  SYS3171  PID 004c  TID 0001  Slot 00b1
> E:\ODIN\SYSTEM32\PE.EXE
> c0000005
> 1504fbdc
> P1=00000002  P2=0002ffec  P3=XXXXXXXX  P4=XXXXXXXX EAX=0003020c  
> EBX=000005a0  ECX=00030124  EDX=00030124
> ESI=00005460  EDI=0003020c DS=0053  DSACC=f0f3  DSLIM=ffffffff 
> ES=0053  ESACC=f0f3  ESLIM=ffffffff FS=150b  FSACC=00f3  FSLIM=00000030
> GS=0000  GSACC=****  GSLIM=********
> CS:EIP=005b:1504fbdc  CSACC=f0df  CSLIM=ffffffff
> SS:ESP=0053:0002fff0  SSACC=f0f3  SSLIM=ffffffff
> EBP=00030114  FLG=00012206
>
> WGSS50.DLL 0001:0002fbdc 

I get the same error whenever I use PE.EXE so I tried INNOWIN.EXE and 
instead iPodder generated a LOG file:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "iPodderGui.pyw", line 38, in ?
  File "iPodderWindows.pyc", line 6, in ?
  File "gui\tree.pyc", line 16, in ?
  File "ipodder\grabbers.pyc", line 56, in ?
  File "ipodder\configuration.pyc", line 18, in ?
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Dietrich Teickner | 5 Jun 14:50 2005
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Re: Mathematica, any progress? Fibers in NTDLL?

It can be, that the TEB struct must be compleat rewritten for 
fiber/Fls(Functions).
The main-problem is, we have no sources from wgss50.dll and I know 
nothing about the usage of the TEB structure inside this innotek.dll.
Second problem, can be that we can only more carefull merge older 
odin-dlls with newers. Some dlls used TEB pointers, I know not all 
references to fields of them yet, the wine structure of TEB has made 
many changes after the last copy/resyc with odin(xp).
I will try ask the innotek-peoples about the the TEB-references. I had 
ask in former times "Achim Hasenmueller" to wgss50-sources and changes 
inside wgss50. They have byed this sources from IBM (IBMBrowser ?)
wgss50 = w(indows)g(rahic)s(ub)s(ystem)50 ? 50 for Netscape 5.0 or nt 
5.0 (w2k) ?

The can/will not merge this sources into odin and they
'have no time for'/'will have no time for'/'can no made' changes in this.

Dietrich

Cheng-Yang Tan wrote:
> 
> Hi Dietrich,
>  
>    I found a mention of fibers in NTDLL of wine:
>  
> http://winehq.com/site/docs/wine-devel/c2749
>  
> Hopefully this is of some use to you.
>  
> Tan
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Dietrich Teickner | 5 Jun 14:59 2005
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Re: Mathematica, any progress? Fibers in NTDLL? 2 small changes

It can be, that the TEB struct must be compleat rewritten for
fiber/Fls(Functions).
The main-problem is, we have no sources from wgss50.dll and I know
nothing about the usage of the TEB structure inside this innotek.dll.
Second problem, can be that we can only more carefull merge older
odin-dlls with newers. Some dlls used TEB pointers, I know not all
references to fields of them yet, the wine structure of TEB has made
many changes after the last copy/resyc with odin(xp).
I will try ask the innotek-peoples about the the TEB-references. I had
ask in former times "Achim Hasenmueller" to wgss50-sources and changes
inside wgss50. They have byed this sources from IBM (IBMBrowser ?)
wgss50 = w(indows)g(rahic)s(ub)s(ystem)50 ? 50 for Netscape 5.0 or nt
5.0 (w2k) ?

They can/will not merge this sources into odin and they
'have no time for'/'will have no time for'/'can no made' changes in this.

It seams, that wgss50.dll never refers any function with the chars "TEB"

Dietrich

Cheng-Yang Tan wrote:
> 
> Hi Dietrich,
>  
>    I found a mention of fibers in NTDLL of wine:
>  
> http://winehq.com/site/docs/wine-devel/c2749
>  
> Hopefully this is of some use to you.
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Dietrich Teickner | 5 Jun 15:51 2005
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Re: Mathematica, any progress? Fibers in NTDLL? 3 changes

It can be, that the TEB struct must be compleat rewritten for
fiber/Fls(Functions).
The main-problem is, we have no sources from wgss50.dll and I know
nothing about the usage of the TEB structure inside this innotek.dll.
Second problem, can be that we can only more carefull merge older
odin-dlls with newers. Some dlls used TEB pointers, I know not all
references to fields of them yet, the wine structure of TEB has made
many changes after the last copy/resyc with odin(xp).
I will try ask the innotek-peoples about the the TEB-references. I had
ask in former times "Achim Hasenmueller" to wgss50-sources and changes
inside wgss50. They have byed this sources from IBM (IBMBrowser ?)
wgss50 = w(indows)g(rahic)s(ub)s(ystem)50 ? 50 for Netscape 5.0 or nt
5.0 (w2k) ?

They can/will not merge this sources into odin and they
'have no time for'/'will have no time for'/'can no made' changes in this.

It seams, that wgss50.dll never refers any function with the chars "TEB"

Currently we have 3 Odin-dll, that we commonly used with changed with 
changes at TEB. wgss50.dll has to do only with graphic changes (I 
think), samples FreeCell 1bpp bitmaps.

I found currently Kernel32.dll, user32.dll, ole2os2.dll as the affected 
odin.dlls.

Dietrich

Cheng-Yang Tan wrote:
> 
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Cheng-Yang Tan | 5 Jun 19:09 2005
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Re: Re: Mathematica, any progress? Fibers in NTDLL? 3 changes

Hi all,
   First of all let me thank Dietrich for having taken a look at getting Mathematica to work in ODIN. I think that having this major app working would be a good thing for OS/2. Parts of Mathematica are already working, like the command line and the kernel. The problem is with the Mathematica GUI which communicates with the kernel and from what I understand, if fibers are available in ODIN, Mathematica GUI will work.
 
Cheng-Yang Tan
 


Dietrich Teickner <dietrich_teickner <at> arcor.de> wrote:
It can be, that the TEB struct must be compleat rewritten for
fiber/Fls(Functions).
The main-problem is, we have no sources from wgss50.dll and I know
nothing about the usage of the TEB structure inside this innotek.dll.
Second problem, can be that we can only more carefull merge older
odin-dlls with newers. Some dlls used TEB pointers, I know not all
references to fields of them yet, the wine structure of TEB has made
many changes after the last copy/resyc with odin(xp).
I will try ask the innotek-peoples about the the TEB-references. I had
ask in former times "Achim Hasenmueller" to wgss50-sources and changes
inside wgss50. They have byed this sources from IBM (IBMBrowser ?)
wgss50 = w(indows)g(rahic)s(ub)s(ystem)50 ? 50 for Netscape 5.0 or nt
5.0 (w2 k) ?

They can/will not merge this sources into odin and they
'have no time for'/'will have no time for'/'can no made' changes in this.

It seams, that wgss50.dll never refers any function with the chars "TEB"

Currently we have 3 Odin-dll, that we commonly used with changed with
changes at TEB. wgss50.dll has to do only with graphic changes (I
think), samples FreeCell 1bpp bitmaps.

I found currently Kernel32.dll, user32.dll, ole2os2.dll as the affected
odin.dlls.

Dietrich

Cheng-Yang Tan wrote:
>
> Hi Dietrich,
>
> I found a mention of fibers in NTDLL of wine:
>
> http://winehq.com/site/docs/wine-devel/c2749
>
> Hopefully this is of some use to you.
>
> Tan
>
>
> */Dietrich Teickner /* wrote:
>
> Hi Tan,
>
> Sorry No,
>
> try to understand what is FlsAlloc,FlsGetValue, .. FiberP rocess.
>
> It seams, that this is the first known application, that will used this.
> I find also no tip in wine for this.
>
> Dietrich
>
> Cheng-Yang Tan wrote:
> > Hi Dietrich
> >
> > Is there any progress in getting Mathematica to
> > work with ODIN?
> >
> > Tan
> >
> >
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John H. Lindsay | 5 Jun 19:49 2005
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Re: Re: Mathematica, any progress? Fibers in NTDLL? 3 changes

Cheng-Yang Tan wrote:

> Hi all,
>    First of all let me thank Dietrich for having taken a look at 
> getting Mathematica to work in ODIN. I think that having this major 
> app working would be a good thing for OS/2. Parts of Mathematica are 
> already working, like the command line and the kernel. The problem is 
> with the Mathematica GUI which communicates with the kernel and from 
> what I understand, if fibers are available in ODIN, Mathematica GUI 
> will work.
>  
> Cheng-Yang Tan

Hi Folks,

Cheng-Yang Tan wrote:

 > Hi all,
 >    First of all let me thank Dietrich for having
 > taken a look at getting Mathematica to work in ODIN.
 > I think that having this major app working would be
 > a good thing for OS/2. Parts of Mathematica are
 > already working, like the command line and the
 > kernel. The problem is with the Mathematica GUI
 > which communicates with the kernel and from what I
 > understand, if fibers are available in ODIN,
 > Mathematica GUI will work.
 > 
 > Cheng-Yang Tan
.....

A real salute to you all if you can get that one
working.  I've been longing for a good one in this
category ever since Maple for OS/2 went South.
For that matter, has anyone any word on Scientific
Workplace and/or Scientific Word under Odin? 

John.

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Dietrich Teickner | 5 Jun 21:50 2005
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Re: Re: Mathematica, any progress? Fibers in NTDLL? 3 changes

Sorry Tan,

I can not agree with this, it was one step. I know not all stepps atter.
Thats not a problem of Mathematica, every if wee have a new 
appllication, we know not what we need for running.

Dietrich

Cheng-Yang Tan wrote:
> Hi all,
>    First of all let me thank Dietrich for having taken a look at getting 
> Mathematica to work in ODIN. I think that having this major app working 
> would be a good thing for OS/2. Parts of Mathematica are already 
> working, like the command line and the kernel. The problem is with the 
> Mathematica GUI which communicates with the kernel and from what I 
> understand, if fibers are available in ODIN, Mathematica GUI will work.
>  
> Cheng-Yang Tan
>  
> 
> 
> */Dietrich Teickner <dietrich_teickner <at> arcor.de>/* wrote:
> 
>     It can be, that the TEB struct must be compleat rewritten for
>     fiber/Fls(Functions).
>     The main-problem is, we have no sources from wgss50.dll and I know
>     nothing about the usage of the TEB structure inside this innotek.dll.
>     Second problem, can be that we can only more carefull merge older
>     odin-dlls with newers. Some dlls used TEB pointers, I know not all
>     references to fields of them yet, the wine structure of TEB has made
>     many changes after the last copy/resyc with odin(xp).
>     I will try ask the innotek-peoples about the the TEB-references. I had
>     ask in former times "Achim Hasenmueller" to wgss50-sources and changes
>     inside wgss50. They have byed this sources from IBM (IBMBrowser ?)
>     wgss50 = w(indows)g(rahic)s(ub)s(ystem)50 ? 50 for Netscape 5.0 or nt
>     5.0 (w2k) ?
> 
>     They can/will not merge this sources into odin and they
>     'have no time for'/'will have no time for'/'can no made' changes in
>     this.
> 
>     It seams, that wgss50.dll never refers any function with the chars "TEB"
> 
>     Currently we have 3 Odin-dll, that we commonly used with changed with
>     changes at TEB. wgss50.dll has to do only with graphic changes (I
>     think), samples FreeCell 1bpp bitmaps.
> 
>     I found currently Kernel32.dll, user32.dll, ole2os2.dll as the affected
>     odin.dlls.
> 
>     Dietrich
> 
>     Cheng-Yang Tan wrote:
>      >
>      > Hi Dietrich,
>      >
>      > I found a mention of fibers in NTDLL of wine:
>      >
>      > http://winehq.com/site/docs/wine-devel/c2749
>      >
>      > Hopefully this is of some use to you.
>      >
>      > Tan
>      >
>      >
>      > */Dietrich Teickner /* wrote:
>      >
>      > Hi Tan,
>      >
>      > Sorry No,
>      >
>      > try to understand what is FlsAlloc,FlsGetValue, .. FiberProcess.
>      >
>      > It seams, that this is the first known application, that will
>     used this.
>      > I find also no tip in wine for this.
>      >
>      > Dietrich
>      >
>      > Cheng-Yang Tan wrote:
>      > > Hi Dietrich
>      > >
>      > > Is there any progress in getting Mathematica to
>      > > work with ODIN?
>      > >
>      > > Tan
>      > >
>      > >
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