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Mr. Puneet Kishor | 1 Jul 02:26

WisconsinView satellite data, now under CC0

My friend Dr. Sam Batzli, Director, WisconsinView, has made available  
the program's more than 6 Terabytes of satellite imagery under the CC0  
Protocol. Here is a "press release"

Since 2004, WisconsinView (http://www.wisconsinview.org) has made  
aerial photography and satellite imagery of Wisconsin available to the  
public for free over the web. As part of the AmericaView consortium,  
WisconsinView supports access and use of these imagery collections  
through education, workforce development, and research. Starting June  
30, 2009, WisconsinView is making available all of its more than 6  
Terabytes of imagery data under the new CC0 Protocol provided by  
Creative Commons. The CC0 (pronounced CC-Zero) Protocol waives any  
rights in a dataset, ensuring that all of the dataset is available to  
anyone without encumbrance of any kind. More information on CC0 is  
available at http://wiki.creativecommons.org/CC0, and the reasoning  
behind the protocol is described at
http://sciencecommons.org/projects/publishing/open-access-data-protocol/ 
. Further questions about WisconsinView may be directed to Dr. Sam  
Batzli, Director, WisconsinView at sabatzli@... or Puneet Kishor,  
Science Commons Fellow (Geospatial Data) at punkish@...

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Rufus Pollock | 1 Jul 13:10
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Re: Open Data is Civic Capital: Best Practices for "Open Government Data"

2009/6/20 Josh Tauberer <tauberer@...>:
> On 06/08/2009 05:04 AM, Rufus Pollock wrote:
[...]
>> One extra item that is worth thinking about is how these kind of
>> principles will play outside of the US -- attitudes to Government data
>> in, e.g. European countries, is often rather different than in the
>> States (where we have federal data in the Public Domain by default).
>> For example, item 8 from the original 8 principles saying "data is not
>> subject to any copyright, patent, ..." is simply not true in the UK.
>
> True vs not true is the wrong words, right? Definition/requirements are met
> vs not met. In places where there is crown copyright, this definition will
> simply never hold. Too bad for them: they don't have an open government.

I think there was a misunderstanding here: what I meant was that in a
lot of jurisdictions (most of those which are not the USA!) government
content or data does *not* start out "not subject to copyright, patent
..." (whereas in the USA, at least in theory, for federal data/content
it does).

Thus, in many places, to make the data "open" it needs to be
explicitly licensed/dedicated. Now that could be by
licensing/dedicating to the public domain or, as is the case with the
UK PSI click-use license, making the data freely available for use and
reuse but subject to an attribution and (minor) integrity requirement.

At least in this second case, though the data is "open", that does not
mean it is "not subject to any copyright, ..." -- just in the way that
code licensed under the GPL or content under a Creative Commons
attribution license is open but the material is still "subject to
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paula le dieu | 2 Jul 13:12

Re: Open Database License (ODbL) v1.0 Released

Wow! Great work!

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2009/6/29 Rufus Pollock <rufus.pollock-wKZDxAJnXxE@public.gmane.org>
Open Data Commons have released v1.0 of the Open Database License
(ODbL) a share-alike license for data and databases. See the full
announce below.

This is big news for anyone working on open data so please
redistribute to all interested individuals and communities.

Regards,

Rufus

 ~~ Open Database License (ODbL) v1.0 Released ~~

<http://www.opendatacommons.org/2009/06/29/open-database-license-odbl-v10-released/>

Open Data Commons are delighted to announce the release of v1.0 of the
Open Database License (ODbL):

 <http://www.opendatacommons.org/licenses/odbl/>

The Open Database License (ODbL) is an open license for data and
databases which gives users freedom to use, reuse and redistribute
subject only to the requirement of attribution and share-alike.

This license, the first of its kind, is a major step forward for open
data. There are currently very few licenses available suited to data
and databases and none which provide for share-alike (existing
share-alike licenses such as the GPL, GFDL and CC By-SA are all
unsuitable for data).

The development of the ODbL, has been a major effort extending over
more than one and half years with an intensive consultation and review
period for the last 6 months. We'd like to express our thanks to the
communities and individuals who have contributed during this time.
Have fun using it!

### About Open Data Commons

Open Data Commons, http://www.opendatacommons.org/, exists to provide
legal solutions for open data. In March 2008 it launched the first
ever open data license: the Public Domain Dedication and License. Open
Data Commons is an Open Knowledge Foundation project run by its
advisory council and like the Foundation is a not-for-profit effort
working for the benefit of the general open knowledge community.

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Joseph Seddon | 2 Jul 18:47
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PSI click to CC-BY-SA compatibility

Heya guys,
 
This is my first post to the list :) Hope we can have some great successes with WMUK and OKFN working together :)
 
I wanted to ask whether UK PSI click use content is compatible and easily convertible to a CC-BY-SA license.
 
One of the directors at Wikimedia UK had a meeting with Richard Stirling from the cabinet office about crown copyright and we are currently lobbying them to ensure that PSI licensed content is useable on wikimedia projects. This particularly revoles around the compatibility with CCBYSA. Not only will this benefit us, but everyone, in and out of the UK.
 
 
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Wikimedia UK
 
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Rufus Pollock | 2 Jul 18:58
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Re: PSI click to CC-BY-SA compatibility

2009/7/2 Joseph Seddon <joseph.seddon <at> wikimedia.org.uk>:
> Heya guys,
>
> This is my first post to the list :) Hope we can have some great successes
> with WMUK and OKFN working together :)
>
> I wanted to ask whether UK PSI click use content is compatible and easily
> convertible to a CC-BY-SA license.

My basic feeling is: yes. See:

<http://www.opendefinition.org/licenses/ukpsi>

The only issue would be a) the fact you must get a click-use license
(it would be preferable if this were automatic -- and I think they are
moving that way ...) b) the obligations under section 9 (which are
reproduced at above link). These are generally innocuous and focused
on you not "passing" your derivative material off as official (which
is sort of similar to the provisions in the CC licenses).

However niggling items like 9.4 (reproduce Material accurately from
the current Official Source except where you make it clear that there
is a more up to date version available;) could, possibly, be
problematic re CC by-sa.

In summary: in spirit the answer would seem a definite yes.

In practice likely also yes though one may have to check about those
pesky section 9 items

> One of the directors at Wikimedia UK had a meeting with Richard Stirling
> from the cabinet office about crown copyright and we are currently lobbying
> them to ensure that PSI licensed content is useable on wikimedia projects.
> This particularly revoles around the compatibility with CCBYSA. Not only
> will this benefit us, but everyone, in and out of the UK.

Good stuff. The major issue to lobby on, if any, are those clauses in section 9.

Rufus

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Andy Kaplan-Myrth | 2 Jul 19:07
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Re: PSI click to CC-BY-SA compatibility

My understanding of the PSI licence is that it is much more 
restrictive than CC-BY-SA. In particular, it requires copies to be 
verbatim and does not license some commercial uses. I suspect it would 
be very difficult to roll over PSI licensed works into CC-BY-SA 
licences without major concessions by the OPSI.

It would be less of a challenge to make them compatible with 
CC-BY-NC-ND, but that would defeat the purpose of compatibility with 
Wikimedia, from what I understand.

I'm no expert in the PSI licence however, so feel free to correct any 
misunderstandings here.

Cheers,
Andy

Rufus Pollock wrote:
> 2009/7/2 Joseph Seddon<joseph.seddon@...>:
>> Heya guys,
>>
>> This is my first post to the list :) Hope we can have some great successes
>> with WMUK and OKFN working together :)
>>
>> I wanted to ask whether UK PSI click use content is compatible and easily
>> convertible to a CC-BY-SA license.
>
> My basic feeling is: yes. See:
>
> <http://www.opendefinition.org/licenses/ukpsi>
>
> The only issue would be a) the fact you must get a click-use license
> (it would be preferable if this were automatic -- and I think they are
> moving that way ...) b) the obligations under section 9 (which are
> reproduced at above link). These are generally innocuous and focused
> on you not "passing" your derivative material off as official (which
> is sort of similar to the provisions in the CC licenses).
>
> However niggling items like 9.4 (reproduce Material accurately from
> the current Official Source except where you make it clear that there
> is a more up to date version available;) could, possibly, be
> problematic re CC by-sa.
>
> In summary: in spirit the answer would seem a definite yes.
>
> In practice likely also yes though one may have to check about those
> pesky section 9 items
>
>> One of the directors at Wikimedia UK had a meeting with Richard Stirling
>> from the cabinet office about crown copyright and we are currently lobbying
>> them to ensure that PSI licensed content is useable on wikimedia projects.
>> This particularly revoles around the compatibility with CCBYSA. Not only
>> will this benefit us, but everyone, in and out of the UK.
>
> Good stuff. The major issue to lobby on, if any, are those clauses in section 9.
>
> Rufus
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Luis Villa | 2 Jul 19:15
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Re: PSI click to CC-BY-SA compatibility

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Rufus Pollock<rufus.pollock@...> wrote:
> 2009/7/2 Joseph Seddon <joseph.seddon@...>:
>> Heya guys,
>>
>> This is my first post to the list :) Hope we can have some great successes
>> with WMUK and OKFN working together :)
>>
>> I wanted to ask whether UK PSI click use content is compatible and easily
>> convertible to a CC-BY-SA license.
>
> My basic feeling is: yes. See:
>
> <http://www.opendefinition.org/licenses/ukpsi>
>
> The only issue would be a) the fact you must get a click-use license
> (it would be preferable if this were automatic -- and I think they are
> moving that way ...)

That's a big issue; CC (like all licenses meeting the OSI/FSF tests)
grant the right to redistribute subject only to very specific
restrictions (SA, NC, etc.) PSI in contrast, at least from a brief
reading, seems to grant redistribution only in very specific
circumstances, and later-generation parties do not seem to be
authorized to redistribute at all. Particularly 6.3 jumps out at me
("This will normally allow users and subscribers to download the
Material to screen and printer for their own use. It does not
otherwise allow you to authorise the reproduction of the Material".)

Really, I'd question whether PSI belongs on opendefinition.org;
specifically I don't see how it doesn't violate the second plank of
the definition.

But this is just from a very cursory review of the PSI.

(On checking my inbox again: Andy's comment about PSI s.9.4 is, I
believe, correct- this is not just an attribution/notice of
modification requirement like in a variety of open source
requirements, on the plain face of it it is a 'no derivatives'
requirement, more analogous to CC-ND than CC-SA.)

Luis
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Jonathan Gray | 2 Jul 19:23

Re: WisconsinView satellite data, now under CC0

This looks brilliant!

Just created a package on CKAN:

  http://ckan.net/package/read/wisconsin-view

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On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 2:26 AM, Mr. Puneet Kishor<punkish@...> wrote:
> My friend Dr. Sam Batzli, Director, WisconsinView, has made available
> the program's more than 6 Terabytes of satellite imagery under the CC0
> Protocol. Here is a "press release"
>
> Since 2004, WisconsinView (http://www.wisconsinview.org) has made
> aerial photography and satellite imagery of Wisconsin available to the
> public for free over the web. As part of the AmericaView consortium,
> WisconsinView supports access and use of these imagery collections
> through education, workforce development, and research. Starting June
> 30, 2009, WisconsinView is making available all of its more than 6
> Terabytes of imagery data under the new CC0 Protocol provided by
> Creative Commons. The CC0 (pronounced CC-Zero) Protocol waives any
> rights in a dataset, ensuring that all of the dataset is available to
> anyone without encumbrance of any kind. More information on CC0 is
> available at http://wiki.creativecommons.org/CC0, and the reasoning
> behind the protocol is described at http://sciencecommons.org/projects/publishing/open-access-data-protocol/
> . Further questions about WisconsinView may be directed to Dr. Sam
> Batzli, Director, WisconsinView at sabatzli@... or Puneet Kishor,
> Science Commons Fellow (Geospatial Data) at punkish@...
>
>
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Rufus Pollock | 2 Jul 19:32
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Re: PSI click to CC-BY-SA compatibility

2009/7/2 Joseph Seddon <joseph.seddon <at> wikimedia.org.uk>:
> A further issues that I though might be a problem is as follows:
>
> It does not otherwise allow you to authorise the reproduction of the
> Material

I assume you mean the sentence in 6.2. I would note that 6.2 begins by
saying the listing there is non-exhaustive ("includes the ...").

I would also emphasizethat this license is definitely *intended* to
permit reuse -- for example national statistics use it and most of the
uses of those statistics is going to be reuse. That said, as I stated,
and as emphasized by Andy section 9.6 could be an issue. The exact
implications of this section are slightly unclear, though I presume
them to be about trying to stop people using material to pretend to
have endorsement from the government. As such they might fall within
the ambit of the "integrity" sections of the CC license section 4a:

<quote>
If You create a Collection, upon notice from any Licensor You must, to
the extent practicable, remove from the Collection any credit as
required by Section 4(c), as requested. If You create an Adaptation,
upon notice from any Licensor You must, to the extent practicable,
remove from the Adaptation any credit as required by Section 4(c), as
requested.
</quote>

> You must not pass your rights under this Licence to anyone else.

This is the issue I mentioned in my first response that subsequent
users have to go and explicitly get their own license (though I have
heard they are looking to fix this).

> Would these clauses also prove issues with CC-BY-SA?

See above.

Rufus

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