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Beartooth | 11 Dec 2006 19:12

VDQ : FM from Pine/Alpine?

Somewhere in that great long 'mergery' thread series, here or on c.m.p, is
an example I can clone to re-enable handling Fastmail from Pine; that
would spare me re-studying the whole topic. I can find it that way if need
be. 

There was also a nice short thread on c.m.p just the other day that may
work.

IOW, I'll manage. But if anyone here happens to have something
better handy -- like such an example in a FAQ or on a web page that you
don't have to make any effort to look up -- it sure would be nice to have.

--

-- 
Beartooth Staffwright, PhD, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert
Fedora Core 6; CXO 5.0.1; Pine 4.64, Pan 0.119; Privoxy 3.0.3;
Dillo 0.8.6, Galeon 2.0.3, Epiphany 2.16, Opera 9.02, Firefox 1.5
Remember I know precious little of what I am talking about.

Beartooth | 11 Dec 2006 15:59

VDQ : googlesyndication.com

I have http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/imap/isps/ open on Firefox,
and have told the noscript extension to allow ii.com.

Now it says scripts are partially allowed, and when I click on options, it
shows googlesyndication.com as not allowed. What is that site? What does
it do?

If/when I want to google something, I'll do it on a google tab, probably
on a different browser; if googlesyndication is one of those little
nasties that searches all of the web when what you're trying to do is
search the site itself, good riddance.

The site googlesyndication.com doesn't seem to tell me what allowing it on
another site will do.

--

-- 
Beartooth Staffwright, PhD, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert
Fedora Core 6; CXO 5.0.1; Pine 4.64, Pan 0.119; Privoxy 3.0.3;
Dillo 0.8.6, Galeon 2.0.3, Epiphany 2.16, Opera 9.02, Firefox 1.5
Remember I know precious little of what I am talking about.

Beartooth | 6 Dec 2006 22:54

Referrer (for fastmail)?

I know you have to use the right form of the right name to give Nancy
credit for putting you onto Fastmail, but I can't remember what it is nor
where to find it.

I'm trying to get back onto Fastmail after having given a cerdit card
mix-up time to settle down, and maybe I can at least get the referral
right at the same time ...

--

-- 
Beartooth Staffwright, PhD, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert
Fedora Core 6; CXO 5.0.1; Pine 4.64, Pan 0.119; Privoxy 3.0.3;
Dillo 0.8.6, Galeon 2.0.3, Epiphany 2.16, Opera 9.02, Firefox 1.5
Remember I know precious little of what I am talking about.

Curtis Jewell | 19 Sep 2006 05:45

Picon

Online.ie's entry in the Service Providers list needs updated...

You won't be able to get IMAP from them unless you pay for it (they're
currently free)

Here's the message I got from them (I changed the Euro character to "EUR"):

Dear Online.ie email user,

Online.ie email and webmail has upgraded to a premium service. For more
information on this new service, please go to
http://www.online.ie/Email/emailfeatures.aspx

NOTE: Please be advised that Online.ie will be closing down POP/IMAP access
to all non-premium users in the next month. Quota will also be changed
accordingly.

Please read message below carefully
-----------------------------------

PREMIUM EMAIL & WEBMAIL PROVIDES:

* Increased storage capacity
                - Premium 1: 50mb quota - EUR 25
                - Premium 2: 100mb quota - EUR 50

* Spam filtering manager - You will be able to:
                - Choose where your spam gets filtered to
                - Choose what level of spam protection you want
                - Blacklist unwanted email addresses
                - Whitelist wanted email addresses

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Beartooth | 30 Aug 2006 17:47

OT? Fastmail problem


 	Dunno where else to ask. I forwarded three or four emails 
to my fastmail account, because I've found that a convenient way 
to look at attached pix; logged into it; and it says there are no 
messages in my inbox! Refresh does nothing. What can have 
happened??

--

-- 
Beartooth Staffwright,
Wordcrafty Squirreler
Venato ergo sum.

Beartooth | 26 Aug 2006 21:23

Mulberry


 	I installed it under XP. What am I supposed to learn from 
it?

 	Btw, my computer glasses are off having the lenses 
replaced; it debilitates my vision of the monitor far more than 
I expected, regardless whether I try to look with my regular 
glasses or with none. I'll have to get them back, to use till the 
new lenses come. Meanwhile, that may have something to do with my 
failure to see what's interesting in Mulberry -- I don't see 
much, period ...  

--

-- 
Beartooth Staffwright,
Wordcrafty Squirreler
Venato ergo sum.

Beartooth | 24 Aug 2006 21:46

Re: major revisions on the Power Pine page


 	This got postponed, then overlooked. -- rrn

On Mon, 21 Aug 2006, Nancy McGough wrote:

> Hi Beartooth,
>
> I just made a lot of changes in the incoming-folders and 
> incoming-archive-folders sections of my Power Pine page. Would 
> you mind reading through the just-revised sections and then 
> send any questions or comments you have in my mailing list? (I 
> just sent you instructions for subscribing to the list.)

 	Which I've just followed.

> Because of the problems you're having posting via NNTP/gmane, I 
> recommend that you subscribe to the list and send messages to 
> the list via email. To send a message to the list, use this 
> address:
>
> To: gmane.org.infiniteink@...
>
> But, make sure you subscribe first!
>
> Thank you, Nancy
>
> PS - The more I write about Pine incoming-folders, the suckier 
> I think the user interface is. This is an excellent example of 
> why developers need someone who knows something about user 
> interface design as part of their team.

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NM Public | 22 Aug 2006 13:05

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about "several ways to" configure Pine

> There's also a completely different general question -- one
> that I suppose I should put on gmane.mail.pine.general -- but
> I'm uncertain whether it's even a pine question or a linux
> question.
>
> In many of these problems, there are several ways to do
> something -- for instance, right at the top of the settings
> under MSC; or way down that, among the "normally hidden"
> options; or by editing the .pinerc directly. I'd presume any
> two equivalent, if it were purely a linux matter; but
> sometimes it seems to matter ....

First, please create a new thread for each new topic so it is 
easy to track the various issues we're discussing!

Here's what I recommend for configuring Pine:

  Normal Users:
    Use MSC without the hidden config

  Power Users:
   Use MSC with the hidden config

  Super Power Users who are using a remote config:
   Use MSC with the hidden config

  Super Power Users who are *not* using a remote config:
   Use a text editor directly on the pinerc file(s)
   IMPORTANT: This is not possible if you are using a remote 
config

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NM Public | 22 Aug 2006 12:53

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CMS and "your faq is so huge that I have an awful time keeping my place"

> There is a general Very Dumb Question: your faq is so huge
> that I have an awful time keeping my place -- especially in
> one common circumstance.
>    [ deleted ]
>
> Is there any easy way to cope with this? It's not unique to
> your faq, of course; I just happen to be most aware of that
> right now -- and you, if anyone, will know the answer if there
> is one. Something like putting a slip in a book, and a mark in
> a margin or a highlight on a section title.

I'm very aware of the problems with my large Power Pine (and 
other) pages and I've spent the last few years researching and 
trying to decide on a content management system (CMS) that I can 
use to make it more manageable. My current thought is that I'm 
going to use Drupal, which I've written about here:

   <http://deflexion.com/2006/07/drupal>

But, I'm still making up my mind. Any suggestions for a good 
content management system for my sites are very welcome!

In the meantime, the only suggestion I have is to print the 
sections of my pages that you are using and do things the old 
fashioned way -- i.e. with highlighting, sticky notes, physical 
cut & paste, etc.

Thank you for your patience with my overwhelming sites!
Nancy

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NM Public | 22 Aug 2006 12:39

Picon

UID 3488 greater than last 3487

> Suddenly, the tab at the bottom of my
> INBOX gave me this :
>
> [Message 407 UID 3488 greater than last 3487]

This sounds like a bug, probably with the IMAP server, but 
possibly with Pine. I recommend that you post about this in the 
pine-info list and make sure that you specify:

  * what IMAP server - Lserv uses Dovecot IMAP (I think), 
FastMail uses Cyrus IMAP

  * what are the exact steps to reproduce the bug

Stomping out this bug should be useful to both Pine and the 
Dovecot IMAP (or whatever IMAP) team!

Thank you,
Nancy

Beartooth | 21 Aug 2006 22:32

Re: Understanding Pine ... (fwd)

On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 08:43:25 +0100, NM Public wrote:

> Let me know if you have any questions about incoming-folders 
> and incoming-archive-folders. My hope is that what I have 
> written on my Power Pine page will help you to understand these 
> and to set these up yourself *without my needing to walk you 
> through the steps*.
>
> Do not hesitate to ask questions. Please ask before you 
> actually implement your incoming-folders and 
> incoming-archive-folders because it is easy to screw things up 
> (as you've discovered!).

I added two or three more incoming folders today, since the ones 
from yesterday are working fine. (I hadn't made archiving 
foldedrs for them yet.) Suddenly, the tab at the bottom of my 
INBOX gave me this :

[Message 407 UID 3488 greater than last 3487]

I have no idea what it's talking about. I removed one new folder, 
and things seemed to work, for a while. Now I get another such 
message, with different numbers. But this time, that doesn't stop 
it.

I now have five incoming folders, all of them being archived -- 
plus the INBOX.

The first time the archiving function put a bunch of messages 
into an archiving folder, they were all at the bottom, making the

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