http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/nonMSschools/ -- -- Ian Ofqual Accredited IT Qualifications A new approach to assessment for learning www.theINGOTs.org - 01827 305940 You have received this email from the following company: The Learning Machine Limited, Reg Office, 36 Ashby Road, Tamworth, Staffordshire, B79 8AQ. Reg No: 05560797, Registered in England and Wales.
Ian Lynch <ian.lynch <at> zmsl.com> wrote: > http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/nonMSschools/ Various LUGs are criticising the wording of this, but I think it's broadly a good idea. There's also http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/gcserealcomp which is more general but could still support FOSS in a big way: "We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to Expand the GCSE curriculum to include a "real" computing skills course." Regards, -- -- MJ Ray (slef) Webmaster for hire, statistician and online shop builder for a small worker cooperative http://www.ttllp.co.uk/ http://mjr.towers.org.uk/ (Notice http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html) tel:+44-844-4437-237
On Tue, 2009-02-17 at 09:18 +0000, MJ Ray wrote: > Ian Lynch <ian.lynch <at> zmsl.com> wrote: > > http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/nonMSschools/ > > Various LUGs are criticising the wording of this, but I think it's > broadly a good idea. There's also > http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/gcserealcomp > which is more general but could still support FOSS in a big way: > > "We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to Expand the GCSE > curriculum to include a "real" computing skills course." We already have a GCSE equivalent course/qualification that requires students to learn some HTML, take part in community projects and learn about Open Systems and FOSS. Since we are making headway in Malaysia and several EU countries partly helped by EU grants, rather than trying to change the government attitude to GCSE which is a minority IT qualification in English schools in any case, back the INGOTs from grass roots with viral marketing and we bypass GCSE and the politics altogether! -- -- Ian Ofqual Accredited IT Qualifications A new approach to assessment for learning www.theINGOTs.org - 01827 305940 You have received this email from the following company: The Learning Machine Limited, Reg Office, 36 Ashby Road, Tamworth, Staffordshire, B79 8AQ. Reg No: 05560797, Registered in England and Wales.(Continue reading)
I have recently been checking the organisations to which I subscribe or am a member of. For some I pay my membership subscriptions by cheque, in the latter case it is quite easy to remember if I am an active member of and wish to continue subscribe to them, as they regularly ask me for another cheque. Other organisations I pay by Bank Standing Order or Direct Debit, and having gone through the list I have resigned my membership and stopped some payments. I was one of the first ten people to join the AFFS, (membership No. 9), and have continued to pay by Standing Order ever since, I am currently trying to discover its present status, then I realised that there has not, of late been much activity on this mailing list, (it was through my membership of the AFFS that I subscribed to it). Has enthusiasm for the AFFS and FSFE-UK waned? Whilst I was never as technically competent as the vast majority of those subscribed to this list, or the membership of the AFFS I did share their objectives. Perhaps we should make an effort to re-invigorate at least this list, and as a consequence once again try to promote the benefits of Free Software and the objectives of FSFE? -- -- John Seago GNU/Linux Registered User No. #219566 http://counter.li.org/
Dear John, same here. I tried some time ago to find out what the current status of AFFS is. I did get some replies, which confirmed that AFFS is currently dormant. I personally don't have much time, but I would certainly like to see AFFS coming back to life. All the best, Marc 2009/2/26 John¹ <seago.john <at> googlemail.com> > I have recently been checking the organisations to which I subscribe or am > a member of. For some I pay my membership subscriptions by cheque, in the > latter case it is quite easy to remember if I am an active member of and > wish to continue subscribe to them, as they regularly ask me for another > cheque. Other organisations I pay by Bank Standing Order or Direct Debit, > and having gone through the list I have resigned my membership and > stopped some payments. > > I was one of the first ten people to join the AFFS, (membership No. 9), and > have continued to pay by Standing Order ever since, I am currently trying > to discover its present status, then I realised that there has not, of > late been much activity on this mailing list, (it was through my > membership of the AFFS that I subscribed to it). Has enthusiasm for the > AFFS and FSFE-UK waned? Whilst I was never as technically competent as the > vast majority of those subscribed to this list, or the membership of the > AFFS I did share their objectives. Perhaps we should make an effort to > re-invigorate at least this list, and as a consequence once again try to > promote the benefits of Free Software and the objectives of FSFE?(Continue reading)
On Friday 27 February 2009 08:23:22 Marc Eberhard <eberhardma <at> googlemail.com> wrote: > same here. I tried some time ago to find out what the current status of > AFFS is. I did get some replies, which confirmed that AFFS is currently > dormant. I personally don't have much time, but I would certainly like > to see AFFS coming back to life. It would be interesting to know how many of those who were members of the AFFS are still members, (in the sense that they are still paying a subscription), I can't at the moment remember what the rules on a quorum ended up as, (my desktop with its archives is at the moment being rebuilt), but if there are a sufficient number of us left it might be possible to at least attempt some form of revival. Would all those who are still paying a membership subscription please make themselves known? -- -- John Seago GNU/Linux Registered User No. #219566 http://counter.li.org/
Hi guys, Apologies for not jumping in sooner, real life is busy right now :) The status of AFFS is technically dormancy, but really it has reached the end of its life. A number of aspects of it basically turned out to be unworkable, but live and learn I guess. The main issue is that AFFS has not really ever managed to disperse any assets: we've collected donations to the FSFE and forwarded those on, and we've paid for some conferences, but that's been basically about it. I guess the silver lining to that cloud is that there is now a small nest-egg which needs to be taken on by a group with (very) similar aims. The reason I say end of life isn't much to do with the AFFS or people itself; we still have issues with the bank account which have never really been sorted out properly despite efforts of a number of us (indeed, MJ kicked that off way back when). I would love to see interest in this type of work pick up again. FSFE has started showing more interest in the UK again, we still have software patents work to do, the Govt. is still interested in policy and things - there's plenty of scope, the problem has been simply lack of manpower I think. I know there is a relatively active free software group in Manchester again, and obviously there are still people on this list, but I think what is key is for people to get to grips with the actual issues and propose ways of addressing them and getting beyond the 'free software supporters club'. Cheers,(Continue reading)
On Friday 27 February 2009 09:50:10 Alex Hudson wrote: > Hi guys, > > Apologies for not jumping in sooner, real life is busy right now :) > > The status of AFFS is technically dormancy, but really it has reached > the end of its life. A number of aspects of it basically turned out to > be unworkable, but live and learn I guess. The main issue is that AFFS > has not really ever managed to disperse any assets: we've collected > donations to the FSFE and forwarded those on, and we've paid for some > conferences, but that's been basically about it. I guess the silver > lining to that cloud is that there is now a small nest-egg which needs > to be taken on by a group with (very) similar aims. > > The reason I say end of life isn't much to do with the AFFS or people > itself; we still have issues with the bank account which have never > really been sorted out properly despite efforts of a number of us > (indeed, MJ kicked that off way back when). there are two points that I would make, a) I am still paying a membership subscription, and therefore presumably still a member. b) That the forgoing being the case, I would have thought that it should be a priority of the remaining members to disburse what what ever "nest egg" there is to a suitable body, I would suggest the FSFE. -- -- John Seago GNU/Linux Registered User No. #219566 http://counter.li.org/(Continue reading)
Hey John, John¹ wrote: > there are two points that I would make, > a) I am still paying a membership subscription, and therefore presumably > still a member. > Well, not really - we stopped taking membership subscriptions a while ago. The problem with people having standing orders / direct debits was that we were unable to stop them, and we didn't always have up-to-date contact information - most should have been asked to stop. I think we're in the situation that we need to try again to contact people such as yourself, and refund subscriptions where possible, which isn't ideal but is about the best we can do. There are only a handful of people in this situation (five, I think, but don't quote me on that). > b) That the forgoing being the case, I would have thought that it should be > a priority of the remaining members to disburse what what ever "nest egg" > there is to a suitable body, I would suggest the FSFE. > It's really a job for the members of the last committee rather than the members of the org, but yes - the funds have to go to a body with the same aims, and FSF/E is probably the only game in town at the moment. That doesn't need to be the case, but that's certainly the default. Cheers, Alex.(Continue reading)
On Friday 27 February 2009 10:11:19 you wrote: > On Fri, 2009-02-27 at 10:07 +0000, John¹ wrote: > > b) That the forgoing being the case, I would have thought that it > > should be a priority of the remaining members to disburse what what > > ever "nest egg" there is to a suitable body, I would suggest the FSFE. > > Distributing the remaining funds might not be so simple as some of the > money was given for specific purpose (I am thinking in particular of the > money UKFSN donated for a UK grants programme). I don't know whether > other donations were similarly attached to a specific purpose or > otherwise conditional. Can I first ask a question? Are you still a paid up member of the AFFS? Secondly if there is a 'problem with the money that is laying in a bank account, then it is time that the members, (and if it proves to be the case that I am the only one left then I will take what ever actions I can), did something about it, In the case of donations for specific purposes, I would suggest that as the AFFS is no longer fulfilling its functions that they, (the donations for specific purposes be returned), the rest of the money be donated to a suitable body with similar aims, (again I would suggest FSFE), and the AFFS be wound up. -- -- John Seago GNU/Linux Registered User No. #219566 http://counter.li.org/
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