MJ Ray | 1 Apr 2008 13:03
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Re: Symbian reanimates software patent debate

Now that April Fools' is over, here's more info from Random-bits...

James Love <james.love <at> keionline.org> wrote:
> "It appears as if OOXML will be approved by the ISO.  If so, we are
> disappointed. Microsoft's control over document formats has destroyed
> competition on the desktop, and the fight over OOXML is really a fight
> over the future of competition and innovation. [...]
> James Love, Knowledge Ecology International (KEI)
> http://www.keionline.org

James Love <james.love <at> keionline.org> wrote:
> http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2008/03/31/iso_ooxml_votes_approve/
> OOXML approved as international standard? By Kelly Fiveash
> 31 Mar 2008 10:37 But voting process slammed
>
> Microsoft looks almost certain to have got its Office Open XML (OOXML)
> file format passed as an international standard but the ballot has been
> tarnished by accusations of voting irregularities.
>
> There’s no official word as yet from the International Standards
> Organisation (ISO), the body responsible for overseeing the ballot, but
> according to many observers that have been closely following the
> process, Microsoft appears to have secured enough votes
[...]
> The ISO said it will make an official announcement either later today or
> early tomorrow morning.

Don't you wish it was just foolery?
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Jon Grant | 2 Apr 2008 00:29

Fwd: [ORG-discuss] Fwd: UKUUG - free Evening talk - OpenMoko - 9th April

This talk looks interesting, I'm a embedded/mobile developer myself.

Anyone else heading down form the list?

Cheers, Jon

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Subject: [ORG-discuss] Fwd: UKUUG - free Evening talk - OpenMoko - 9th April
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Want to free your phone? Then head down to this talk on OpenMoko
 (GNU/Linux on mobiles).

  UKUUG 'free' Evening talk

  'OpenMoko (GNU/Linux on the mobile phone)' - speaker: Ole Tange

  Wednesday 9th April, 2008 - Talk starts at: 6:30 p.m. (ends approx. 8:30 p.m.)

  Venue:  Cruciform Lecture theatre 2,
  UCL, Cruciform Building, Gower Street, London WC1E 6BT

  There is no need to book a place - just turn up.

  see UKUUG web site for information:

  http://www.ukuug.org/events/openmoko/
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Tim Dobson | 2 Apr 2008 03:22
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Re: Fwd: [ORG-discuss] Fwd: UKUUG - free Evening talk - OpenMoko - 9th April

Jon Grant wrote:
> This talk looks interesting, I'm a embedded/mobile developer myself.
> 
> Anyone else heading down form the list?

I would love to go to this considering I'm hoping to get a Neo 
Freerunner to replace my elderly, non-free, wait for it.... Nokia 3310.

Unfortunatly this talk is a few hundred miles too far south.

Come to Manchester! ;)

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Chris Croughton | 2 Apr 2008 11:03
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Re: Fwd: [ORG-discuss] Fwd: UKUUG - free Evening talk - OpenMoko - 9th April

On Wed, Apr 02, 2008 at 02:22:44AM +0100, Tim Dobson wrote:

> Jon Grant wrote:
> >This talk looks interesting, I'm a embedded/mobile developer myself.
> >
> >Anyone else heading down form the list?
> 
> I would love to go to this considering I'm hoping to get a Neo 
> Freerunner to replace my elderly, non-free, wait for it.... Nokia 3310.
> 
> Unfortunatly this talk is a few hundred miles too far south.

Too far for me as well, and too early start in the evening for the
middle of the week.  If it were Friday I could get there.

Is there any information when the Freerunner will be available
(approximate timescale)?  I'm very interested in it but the OpenMoko
page doesn't seem to give any indication.  Approximate price would be
good as well (order of magnitude even, if it's 100 quid I'll go for it
but if it's 1000 I won't).

(I have a Nokia 6310, I only got that model because at the time I wanted
to be able to use it as a modem to get Internet access while away.
Otherwise a 3310 would do me fine, I only use the thing for occasional
voice calls and rare SMS messages.)

Chris C
Tim Dobson | 2 Apr 2008 17:30
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Fwd: [Sheflug] James Vasile - Replicating the Success of Free Software - 2nd April 2008

Sorry it's a bit late to mention this- it's tonight.
But if anyones in the north and can make it - see you there!

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Date: 19 Mar 2008 12:20
Subject: [Sheflug] James Vasile - Replicating the Success of Free
Software - 2nd April 2008
To: sheflug <at> sheflug.org.uk

            Meetings are free and open to anyone to attend.

        Our next meeting will on Wednesday the 2nd of April.

                        Sheffield Hallam University
                        Room 7140
                        Stoddart Building
                        City Campus,
                        Howard Street,
                        Sheffield
                        S1 1WB

        http://www.shu.ac.uk/services/marketing/tour/stoddart.html
                                http://www.shu.ac.uk/visit/

                        Start at 7 p.m.  Finish 9 p.m.

 The next meeting will be on the evening of the 2nd of April.  James
 Vasile from the Software Freedom Law Center  will give a talk
 entitled "Replicating the Success of Free Software".  The Free
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Jon Grant | 2 Apr 2008 23:29

Fwd: [ORG-discuss] Office Open XML aproved by ISO

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Here is the official press release from ISO.
 http://www.iso.org/iso/pressrelease.htm?refid=Ref1123

 They seem to have broken every rule, with several
 countries complaining that their votes where
 incorrectly recorded.

 The Open Source Consortium have said they will lodge a
 official complaint over the UK changing its vote to a
 Yes, as soon as that is officially confirmed.
Tim Dobson | 5 Apr 2008 19:34
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[Fwd: [Fsuk-manchester] ODF Petition]

I don't think this has been mentioned on here yet:

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [Fsuk-manchester] ODF Petition
Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2008 17:32:00 +0100
From: Mac <Ammonius.Grammaticus <at> googlemail.com>
To: fsuk-manchester <at> nongnu.org

You may already know of the petition for the National Archive
to use ODF and not  M$ OOXML as planned.  If not, here's the URL:

http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/ODFinNA/

Mac

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Noah Slater | 6 Apr 2008 15:12
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Wikipedia to merge Free Software and Open Source

Hello,

The Wikitrolls and OSI appologists on Wikipedia are planning to merge the
articles on Free Software and Open Source to avoid "nitpicking and
agenda-advancing" despite the obvious absurdity of this.

If you care about making sure this doesn't happen, add your opinion here:

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Free_and_open_source_software#Merge_FS_.2B_OSS_here

There are other places on that page where you could weigh in.

Thanks,

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Philip Hunt | 6 Apr 2008 18:27
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Re: Wikipedia to merge Free Software and Open Source

On 06/04/2008, Noah Slater <nslater <at> bytesexual.org> wrote:
> Hello,
>
>  The Wikitrolls and OSI appologists on Wikipedia are planning to merge the
>  articles on Free Software and Open Source to avoid "nitpicking and
>  agenda-advancing" despite the obvious absurdity of this.

It isn't obvious to me that this is absurd.

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Tim Dobson | 6 Apr 2008 20:05
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Re: Wikipedia to merge Free Software and Open Source

Philip Hunt wrote:
> On 06/04/2008, Noah Slater <nslater <at> bytesexual.org> wrote:
>>  The Wikitrolls and OSI appologists on Wikipedia are planning to merge the
>>  articles on Free Software and Open Source to avoid "nitpicking and
>>  agenda-advancing" despite the obvious absurdity of this.
> 
> It isn't obvious to me that this is absurd.

Open Source and Free Software are separate things.

Noah isn't saying there is any problems with Open Source, or people who 
support Open Source or anything like that.

What he is stating, perhaps a bit cryptically, is that people who 
perhaps spend a little too much time on Wikipedia are trying to merge 
the articles on "Open Source Software" and "Free Software".

I think he believes here is that Open Source Software and Free Software 
have sufficiently different goals and ideals to merit different 
Wikipedia articles as opposed to a combined article.

Therefore he is encouraging people to show their support on the said 
Wikipedia discussion page, if they believe the same as him.

It may even be conceived that he could be reaching out to people from 
the Open Source Software movement, who don't want their Wikipedia entry 
diluted with talk about ethics.

I believe this is the message that Noah is trying to relay, in the 
simplest terms possible.
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