The SALIS ( Software And Licensing Information System)

Hi All,
Just attended the talk of SALIS
SALIS is a information repository built by funding of IPR Cell in Delhi.

The database is publicly available.
http://salis.iisc.ernet.in/

Would request you to please go through and put the comments back.
The term Intellectual Property seems misleading , i feel we should clearly
mark
copyrights, trademarks and patents (oops , news Software Patents are not
valid in India )
Anybody having details

Regards

Kanti

Attn: Legal specialists -- License of Splunk server

Hi all,
    I just saw a promotion link in SF.NET regarding a *open source
project*  called splunk server(https://splunkforge.org/). But when I
looked at the License(http://www.splunk.com/index.php/articles/news/66)
of the product it looks weird. In the first part they uses the term
*FREE SOFTWARE* and in the License part they says some restrictions
for use
<quote>
Subject to the terms and conditions of this Agreement, Splunk grants
to You a non-exclusive, worldwide, fully-paid up copyright license to
use, copy, and distribute the Free Splunk Software in binary form only
and only subject to the following conditions: (i) to index no more
than 500MB of peak daily volume of uncompressed data (the "Maximum
Peak Daily Volume�?).
</quote>

My doubt is that, does this come under the definition of Free
Software? If it doesn't it will be misleading to use the term *Free
Software*.

regards
Manilal K M.

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FOSS.IN/2005 - A report

FOSS.IN/2005 - Report

http://www.thejadias.org/blog/

The event formally known as LB or LinuxBangalore got a new name and a new
venue this year.
What could be more appropriate than the historical Bangalore Palace to hold
the conference.

We ( me and Praveen A ) had planned to put a stall for FSF-India at FOSS.IN.
I was never keen on putting a demo as i believe that the whole of FOSS.INdemoed
Free Software a lot.A lot of it infact as this was FOSS.IN.

We reached the venue on 29th Morning around 8:15.
Praveen had registered for a lot of volunteering and also helped some in the
conference as well.
He got in touch with Tejas and got right inside the registration counter to
help out.
( http://people.redhat.com/jmorris/images/fossinmisc2.jpg ).
Praveen wearing the "Freedom Matters" T-Shirt.Would upload the images in
some time.

The format of the FOSS expo area was known to us and the idea of a stall was
a bit off.
I got myself registered as a delegate and headed straight to the FOSS Expo
area.
The FOSS Expo area had nobody in at that time so i headed to Intel hall (
750 seater ).
As i was moving towards the hall i met Gaurav Nawani.
Gaurav mentioned that he would be putting up a demo of Blender in the FOSS

Re: Attn: Legal specialists -- License of Splunk server

Hi,
>     I just saw a promotion link in SF.NET regarding a *open source
> project*  called splunk server(https://splunkforge.org/). But when I
> looked at the License(http://www.splunk.com/index.php/articles/news/66)
> of the product it looks weird. In the first part they uses the term
> *FREE SOFTWARE* and in the License part they says some restrictions
> for use
SF.Net [and all sites under OSTG] accept ads from companies which sell
non-free stuff. In fact, M$ is the biggest advertiser on Linux.com. I
have seen the Splunk ad ... but where does it say that it's Free/Open
Source Software? SplunkForge is the site for Free/Open Source
extensions to the Splunk engine, which is non-free anyway.
Can you point us to any page where they claim that Splunk is free software?
Regards,
BG

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Re: FOSS.IN/2005 - A report

Sometime on Mon, Dec 05, 2005 at 02:59:32PM +0530, kanti jadia said:
> Am surprised at the low amount of information people have about FSF.
> People do not even know where gcc came from.
> I was kind of letting people know about FSF in India and its activities.
> FSF-India would be soon launching a fellowship programme and details about
> the same ( http://www.fsf.org.in/new/fellowship )
                               ^^^^^^ 

New FSF website has not been announced yet, i believe.

Anurag

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Re: Attn: Legal specialists -- License of Splunk server

On 12/5/05, Baishampayan Ghose <b.ghose@...> wrote:
> Hi,
> >     I just saw a promotion link in SF.NET regarding a *open source
> > project*  called splunk server(https://splunkforge.org/). But when I
> > looked at the License(http://www.splunk.com/index.php/articles/news/66)
> > of the product it looks weird. In the first part they uses the term
> > *FREE SOFTWARE* and in the License part they says some restrictions
> > for use
> SF.Net [and all sites under OSTG] accept ads from companies which sell
> non-free stuff. In fact, M$ is the biggest advertiser on Linux.com. I
> have seen the Splunk ad ... but where does it say that it's Free/Open
> Source Software? SplunkForge is the site for Free/Open Source
> extensions to the Splunk engine, which is non-free anyway.
> Can you point us to any page where they claim that Splunk is free software?
> Regards,
> BG
Visit this link. it was included in my first posting also.
http://www.splunk.com/index.php/articles/news/66

Re: Attn: Legal specialists -- License of Splunk server

On Monday, 5 Dec 2005 6:40 pm, Manilal K M wrote:

> Visit this link. it was included in my first posting also.
> http://www.splunk.com/index.php/articles/news/66
>

Yup, read this part carefully at the top of the page.

*******************************************************************************
THIS FREE SPLUNK SERVER END USER LICENSE AGREEMENT (THE "AGREEMENT") GOVERNS 
THE FREE SPLUNK SERVER SOFTWARE (THE "FREE SOFTWARE") PROVIDED BY SPLUNK INC. 
("SPLUNK") THAT IS MADE AVAILABLE FOR FREE DOWNLOAD FROM SPLUNK’S WEBSITE 
(TOGETHER WITH ANY UPDATES, UPGRADES, OR MODIFICATIONS THERETO, THE "FREE 
SOFTWARE"), PROVIDED THAT THIS AGREEMENT DOES NOT APPLY TO SPLUNK SOFTWARE 
LICENSED UNDER THE GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE OR THE SPLUNK PROFESSIONAL SOFTWARE 
LICENSE AGREEMENT.
*******************************************************************************

That is the problem of twisting common english words. If FSF can redefine the 
word "Free", so can Splunk, and they have just done that above. ;)

- Sandip

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Re: Attn: Legal specialists -- License of Splunk server

Manilal,
> Visit this link. it was included in my first posting also.
> http://www.splunk.com/index.php/articles/news/66
Well, they tend to use the term ``Free Software'' to mean freeware.
And the real ``Free Software'' is ``Open Source Software'' to them.
So we can't really do anything as the license clearly states that the
software is gratis and not libre.
Regards,
BG

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[Fw: Patents:]

From: JTD <jtd@...>
Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Patents
Date: 2005-12-06 10:48:28 GMT

Visited the Indian patent website http://patentoffice.nic.in
Browsing thru the applications reveals filings for such things as 
methods for zooming, play list, graphic equalisers - all in software 
- filed by the likes of Samsung (who seems to be one major spin 
master) , TCS (for a software for some business process) and others 
jerks from Australia, USA etc.
All the applications were filed in 2002. 
The patent office publishes applications every week. 
http://patentoffice.nic.in/ipr/patent/journal_archieve/
patent_journal_2005.htm We should scrutinise them and alert FSF India 
where ever software / computers / electronics and prior art is 
involved. I plan to do this diligently.
Ignore this and u are walking into quicksand.

rgds
jtd 

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No patents for mathematical or business methods or computer programs per se or algorithms in India

Rebentisch <arebenti@...> wrote to <in-help@...>
pointing to the following article:

http://www.mondaq.com/i_article.asp_Q_articleid_E_36364
India: Patentability of Softwares in India
30 November 2005
Article by Manisha Singh Nair

,----[Manisha Singh Nair wrote:]
| The Patents Act refers to computer programs in Section 3, which deals
| with inventions that cannot be patented. According to S. 3(k), a
| computer program per se is not patentable. This makes us think about
| what the term ?per se? stands for in this context.
|
| According to the Webster?s Encyclopedic Unabridged Dictionary, the
| term ?per se? refers to "by, of, for, or in itself; intrinsically". If
| we are to use this definition we can well assume that the software as
| such cannot be patented. But don?t the same words of the provision
| tell us something more- that if the claimed invention is some thing
| more than?mere? software, it is patentable?
`----

The Patents  Act declares  in Section 3,  among other things,  that "a
mathematical  or business  method  or  a computer  program  per se  or
algorithms;" are not inventions within the meaning of the Act.

Under  Section 7,  every application  for a  patent shall  be  for one
invention only.  It  is fairly obvious that an  invention that relates
to a mathematical  or business method or a  computer program in itself
or algorithms are not patentable in India.