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headers Sam Tuke | 16 Dec 2011 16:32

Hello!

Finally here is the link to the collected work of attendees at the FSCONS 
workshop which I ran on "Boosting Free Software within charities and NGOs". 
Please have a look at the etherpad, add your ideas, comment on what is there, 
and/or send your views to the discussion mailing list.

Etherpad: 
http://pr.etherpad.fsfe.org/95

Password:
ThanksForTheSweeties

A reminder of what we worked on:

*Group 1*: "Contact charities who already use Free Software and ask them to 
publicise this fact"

*Group 2*: "Devise questions for a survey to send to third sector 

On Friday 18 November 2011 13:14:18 Sam Tuke wrote:
> The European Parliament Free Software Users group, which supports MEPs with
> using and migrating to Free Software, is looking for someone to help them
> with their Drupal website.

Erik has notified me that my call for help resulted in 5-8 volunteers. Great to 
see so much support from FSFE Fellows for the parliamentary Free Software 
group! Thanks to everyone who contacted him.

Sam.

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  in Vienna/Austria, Switzerland, and 5 federal state elections in
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- Achieved widespread press coverage for distributed Free Software
  systems such as Yacy [5],
- defended the GNU GPL from legal challenges, working along side

Dear all,

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http://blogs.fsfe.org/fellowship-interviews/?p=509 .

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Dear discussants,

It has come to my attention that our mailing lists are publicly
archived at <http://web.archiveorange.com/archive/project/fsfeurope.org/>.
The web <at>  and translators <at>  have faced similar issues in the past, if I
remember correctly. On those lists it was decided that this is not
desirable. I think that the FSFE should not allow this kind of
archival as we have the functionality internally. However, since I am
not qualified to decide... I am writing this. I think it would be best
if the FSFE had a universal policy, but you are obviously welcome to
mirror the discussion on the lists relevant to you.

Anyway, let's discuss it. Your thoughts, opinions, actions are?

Merry Christmas!

Faithfully,
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"Heiki \"Repentinus\" Ojasild" <repentinus@...>
> It has come to my attention that our mailing lists are publicly
> archived at <http://web.archiveorange.com/archive/project/fsfeurope.org/>.
> The web <at>  and translators <at>  have faced similar issues in the past, if I
> remember correctly. On those lists it was decided that this is not
> desirable. I think that the FSFE should not allow this kind of
> archival as we have the functionality internally. However, since I am
> not qualified to decide... I am writing this. I think it would be best
> if the FSFE had a universal policy, but you are obviously welcome to
> mirror the discussion on the lists relevant to you.
> 
> Anyway, let's discuss it. Your thoughts, opinions, actions are?

Let it be.

Why does it matter?  The discussion list is public for both
subscription and archive.  The internal archive is pipermail, which is
not the nicest thing to use, to put it mildly.

Also, there are many other archives which also have a copy of the
discussion list - gmane.org being one of the best.  Like gmane,
archiveorange seem to link back to the real list.

There's one main thing I see at archiveorange which could be
considered objectionable.  They show adverts if one's browser isn't
set to forbid them and maybe they don't donate any surplus income to
FSFE for this use of its resources.

So why did web <at>  and translators <at>  object?

Hello,

On 27 December 2011 19:11, MJ Ray <mjr@...> wrote:
> So why did web <at>  and translators <at>  object?
On a second glance, it seems that only web <at>  did. At least I cannot
find anything about translators <at>  at the moment. Anyway, web <at>  archives
are private. And no-one who bothered to discuss it on web <at>  wanted the
archives to become public. Was not much more to that.

Since the site has quite a few lists archived I just figured it would
be easier to notify people via the discussion <at> . I was not particularly
enthusiastic with the prospective of checking all the lists' archival
policies and notifying them all myself. And since I knew that not all
lists have been happy about this, I figured it would be worth
mentioning here.

Best regards,
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* Heiki Repentinus Ojasild <repentinus@...> [2011-12-27 20:19:35 +0000]:

> On 27 December 2011 19:11, MJ Ray <mjr@...> wrote:
> > So why did web <at>  and translators <at>  object?
> On a second glance, it seems that only web <at>  did. At least I cannot
> find anything about translators <at>  at the moment. Anyway, web <at>  archives
> are private. And no-one who bothered to discuss it on web <at>  wanted the
> archives to become public. Was not much more to that.

For the publically archived ones it is ok for me if they are archived in
other places like Free Software list archives as well. 

web <at>  and trsnlators <at>  have a archive which is for subscribers only. So
they should not appear on public archives. That's why we contacted some
archives in the past and asked for removal of those lists from their
archives.

Regards,
Matthias

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