Matthias Kirschner | 1 Feb 11:25 2008
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Re: Research and free software

Hi Isabel,

* Isabel Drost <mainec@...> [2007-11-26 21:41:14 +0100]:

> Are you aware of any other efforts - maybe in different research areas - 
> comparable to the above? I still hope, I just know only about very few such 
> projects.

A few days ago I read Torsten's blog entry
http://twerner.blogspot.com/2008/01/open-source-licensed-scientific.html
who wrote about scientific Free Software programs.

Best wishes,
Matthias

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David Gerard | 1 Feb 11:50 2008
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(meta) Request for tag in subject line

Would it be possible to tag subject lines in list messages? Presumably
the list admin would set this in

https://mail.fsfeurope.org/mailman/admin/discussion/?VARHELP=general/subject_prefix

- d.
MJ Ray | 1 Feb 12:23 2008

Re: (meta) Request for tag in subject line

"David Gerard" <dgerard@...> wrote:
> Would it be possible to tag subject lines in list messages? [...]

You could use the List-Id header to filter or tag according to your
choice.  That said, it would be good if its description changed to
"FSFE Discussion" (most significant words first) rather than "General
discussion list for the FSFE".

Hope that helps,
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David Gerard | 1 Feb 12:40 2008
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Re: (meta) Request for tag in subject line

On 01/02/2008, MJ Ray <mjr@...> wrote:
> "David Gerard" <dgerard@...> wrote:

> > Would it be possible to tag subject lines in list messages? [...]

> You could use the List-Id header to filter or tag according to your
> choice.  That said, it would be good if its description changed to
> "FSFE Discussion" (most significant words first) rather than "General
> discussion list for the FSFE".

I could, but I ask because pretty much every other Mailman list I read
includes the list name in the subject line and it's really convenient
when looking over the inbox.

- d.
Ben Finney | 1 Feb 13:23 2008
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Re: (meta) Request for tag in subject line

On 01-Feb-2008, David Gerard wrote:
> Would it be possible to tag subject lines in list messages?

It's possible. I'd really prefer this *not* happen, though.

* If you want to filter by list, use the 'List-Id' field in every 
  message header. Heck, if you want the message treated specially in 
  any way based on which list it came from, use the 'List-Id' field.

* Messages and threads sent to multiple lists with this subject 
  munging quickly accumulate subject-line cruft from all of them.

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Ben Finney <ben@...>
On 01-Feb-2008, David Gerard wrote:
> Would it be possible to tag subject lines in list messages?

It's possible. I'd really prefer this *not* happen, though.

* If you want to filter by list, use the 'List-Id' field in every 
  message header. Heck, if you want the message treated specially in 
  any way based on which list it came from, use the 'List-Id' field.

* Messages and threads sent to multiple lists with this subject 
  munging quickly accumulate subject-line cruft from all of them.
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ana | 1 Feb 13:06 2008
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Re: (meta) Request for tag in subject line

David Gerard wrote:
>> Would it be possible to tag subject lines in list messages? [...]
>>     
I'd like to second this request because I would prefer to visually 
separate the emails from my inbox, rather than get my mail client to 
filter them away from the inbox, and I would need a tag in the subject 
line to do that.

thanks in advance ...

ana
Noah Slater | 1 Feb 13:36 2008

Re: (meta) Request for tag in subject line

> I'd like to second this request because I would prefer to visually 
> separate the emails from my inbox, rather than get my mail client to 
> filter them away from the inbox, and I would need a tag in the subject 
> line to do that.

You could switch to a different mail client, such as mutt, which
provides the functionality of highlighting emails in colour. I believe
Thunderbird and Outlook offer the same.

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Ben Finney | 1 Feb 13:43 2008
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Re: (meta) Request for tag in subject line

On 01-Feb-2008, ana wrote:
> David Gerard wrote:
> >> Would it be possible to tag subject lines in list messages? [...]
>
> I'd like to second this request because I would prefer to visually 
> separate the emails from my inbox, rather than get my mail client to 
> filter them away from the inbox, and I would need a tag in the 
> subject line to do that.

Then please solve the problem at your mail client end, without asking 
for something that imposes such visual noise on the rest of us.

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Ben Finney <ben@...>
On 01-Feb-2008, ana wrote:
> David Gerard wrote:
> >> Would it be possible to tag subject lines in list messages? [...]
>
> I'd like to second this request because I would prefer to visually 
> separate the emails from my inbox, rather than get my mail client to 
> filter them away from the inbox, and I would need a tag in the 
> subject line to do that.

Then please solve the problem at your mail client end, without asking 
for something that imposes such visual noise on the rest of us.
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David Gerard | 1 Feb 13:50 2008
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Re: (meta) Request for tag in subject line

On 01/02/2008, Noah Slater <nslater@...> wrote:

> > I'd like to second this request because I would prefer to visually
> > separate the emails from my inbox, rather than get my mail client to
> > filter them away from the inbox, and I would need a tag in the subject
> > line to do that.

> You could switch to a different mail client, such as mutt, which
> provides the functionality of highlighting emails in colour. I believe
> Thunderbird and Outlook offer the same.

I moved *from* Mutt *to* Gmail. Now I actually manage to keep up with my mail.

(I love replies to feature requests that say "You don't actually want
to do what you want to do, you want to do what *I* do.")

- d.
Ben Finney | 1 Feb 14:01 2008
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Re: (meta) Request for tag in subject line

On 01-Feb-2008, David Gerard wrote:
> On 01/02/2008, Noah Slater <nslater@...> wrote:
> > You could switch to a different mail client, such as mutt, which
> > provides the functionality of highlighting emails in colour. I 
> > believe Thunderbird and Outlook offer the same.
> 
> I moved *from* Mutt *to* Gmail.

That's unfortunate, because (if I understand rightly) gmail offers 
very little control over how messages are processed.

If I'm wrong, and gmail *does* offer a lot of control, then please use 
that control to control your mail the way you're wanting to do.

> (I love replies to feature requests that say "You don't actually 
> want to do what you want to do, you want to do what *I* do.")

Notice that it is you asking for *everyone's* mail from this list to 
be affected, just to suit the way *you* want it to appear.

That's far better solved by presentation in *your* mail client, 
because doing so doesn't impose anything on anyone else. The messages 
already contain exactly the right information to do so: a field that 
uniquely identifies the list from which the message came.

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