Gabriel Perez | 2 Feb 02:38
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Re: What is Twitter censoring, how to reject that censorship, what we love online and why we should protest SOPA PIPA and ACTA

Great article!!

On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 1:34 PM, andrea fassina <mailandreafassina <at> gmail.com> wrote:
Internet and politics are now more interconnected than ever. Certain aspects of it jump up in the everyday life of millions of people. Twitteris without doubt one of those – but until a certain point. Generally, people who consider themselves with a fair amount of digital technical skills, and to good reason, see apparently no use in getting a Twitter account. For instance in Italy despite smartphones and facebook and youtube and ipads, even though it is in the media it is not widely adopted in the population(no statistics provided just asking around, do you know what twitter is? Try to ask beyond the 'social network' answer).


That said, teenagers in school post status updates and check themselves in jail while being in classroom to symbolize the pseudo coercing / bonding high school period.

I would say fully coercing...
 
Tagging of pictures keeps the stream flowing and people traverse their timeline endlessly in vortex of sharing online. Meeting on Skype is a common activity during winter for long hours in a surreal setting presenting the personification of the computer as an extension of human senses. We live the majority part of the day online, we are the nation of internet users replicating the principle of the web – the flow of information.

The umbrella corporations of conservative censorship are on a rising tide considering the medium range time. The SOPA PIPA ACTA tryptic is just the basis for something stronger. When you start making exceptions on the assertion “we are the good guys and we can do it because of XYZ while they are the bad guys and they are doing it for the wrong reasons.” So all animals are equal, but some are more equal than others. This situation might not be too Orwellian but if we really are a country based on the flow of information and to protect the interests of a powerful minority this flow is interrupted not by sporadic activities but by the development of dedicated machines automatically screening content, flagging, removing, suspending and blocking access to it. The difference here is not in the promulgation of laws not directly voted, both in modern democracies and dictatorship this happens, the difference is in the response that we as citizens - both of our own state and the web - can put in practice. If in China you are arrested for blogging about censorship, in Europe we have the right to flood into streets and voice our concerns, and we should, to stop governments forcing ISPto spy on their citizens/users.

Its important to discuss the reasons why Twitter decided to allow filtering some messages in specific countries(ie censor them), you don't need to have HIV to know that it is vital to fight it. Twitter is being more open about it and according to its policy, filtering out contents in a specific country will be balanced by marking that content as censored in the rest of the world and easily accessing the institution asking for it to be removed with the reason for removal.  From a tool for freedom, Twitter will become just a tool, like Gheddafi cutting water supplies to (luckily once) revolting cities. Still, we must not let our guard down and denounce any activity of spreading the "I don't hear, I don't see, I don't talk" attitude embracing service providers around the world.

Multiple online services from Twitter to Filesonic have been shaken by the uncontested and unconstitutional seizure of Megavideo - despite the wrong doing and lascivious life of its founders, there was a total lack of due process or selection of illegal content, everything will be removed, copyright infringing or not. And this is the "good guys" doing it. If the web has no physical or elected ambassadors to remove from a country breaking its flow, we the people must stand up and speak in defence of our love for Wikipedia, our positive feelings nurtured by Youtube, the cosiness and security of a Skype conversation, the amplification and accessibility of our opinions on Twitter, the assurance of our Facebook inboxes kept private and the availability of all other online services, albeit not major ones but still essential in our every day life. Only by proving our presence in a common cause to protect the internet, educating friends and sensibilizing our elected representatives can we disentangle our liberties in the jungle of web diplomacy.

In the politics of programming Google needs to have a relationship with China, Facebook with Pakistan, Twitter if it really has to. But compromises is what degrades and makes possible politics. This online nation has billions of citizens, all unique but expressing that uniqueness with similar if not the same tools. So at 18 you can post away on Facebook, when you are an ex-pat you meet your friends in international conference calls, if your machine has collapsed because of a virus despite the fact that you were behind firewall tomorrow you will install Linux, it is only logical that we are going to be more dependant on the web in the future. We should sensibilise and excite – we might not need to assert our liberty to protest but it is rather important standing up for an nondeterministic and thriving online life.

We must take the responsibility on ourselves and the people around us to talk about protecting the internet, the neutrality and importance of an open web on social networks, in bars, at pubs, during lunches, in cinemas, in stadiums, at home with your friends - whatever you say, say a lot!

Indeed, the word should spread out to more non-technical/"internet" people. That's why I think that things like the Wikipedia blackout are so effective. It truly gets the word out. The truth is probably most people are against these type of policies. They just don't know whats going on. 



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andrea fassina | 2 Feb 10:37
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Why students protest ACTA?

Because of everything, the way it was signed (first by not telling anybody interested about it, enforced by big companies, never consulted with anybody representing either internet providers or users or smaller companies, anything, just 'the big rich ones'), the fact it was a lie from the beginning, that we weren't the last to sign, then that nobody cared if there are protests or not, because they just signed not caring it harms even basic human laws and it's against EU law.

Because generally watching for example american tv series, japanese comic books for free in original lang was legal in poland until it was bought by polish company/television and translated, now it won't be legal, and young people are usually addicted to tv series and watching them 5 mins after they have tv premiere in usa (but it's not a main and most important reason, just one of similar).

It's not only about internet, it's about medicines that are extremely expensive, especially for old and/or very sick people here, so they were always made such medicines that have same things inside and working in same way, but different name and brand and 10 times less expensive - now it's illegal, same with all the parts and fillings of things that don't need to be original, printer's ink, car parts, anything, can be either original or none, so both companies that were always producing such things will have problems now, and people using it, because it would make everything not exist, because they punish websites for letting users put on them anything illegal, so controlling users or stopping existing, because it doesn't protect 'little' producers, like graphic designers, photographers, programmers doing something own - so it's not about anti-piracy or using not own things, it's about letting big companies that have money, threathen people and blackmail them ("you seem to have downloaded something.mp3 that wasn't yours, pay 1mio$ or you wll have serious problems, we have all your data from your isp") - bypassing court, only assuming someone really did this thing.

By Paulina, a Polish Computer Science student from Warsaw. Part of a longer conversation on ACTA, the Internet and crowded places.


full article here:  http://www.studentsforfreeculture.eu/blog/2012/02/why-students-protest-acta/

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Karl Fogel | 2 Feb 20:01
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Re: Why students protest ACTA?

andrea fassina <mailandreafassina <at> gmail.com> writes:
>Because of everything, the way it was signed (first by not telling
>[...]
>doing something own - so it's not about anti-piracy or using not own
>things, it's about letting big companies that have money, threathen
>people and blackmail them ("you seem to have downloaded something.mp3
>that wasn't yours, pay 1mio$ or you wll have serious problems, we have
>all your data from your isp") - bypassing court, only assuming someone
>really did this thing.
>
>By Paulina, a Polish Computer Science student from Warsaw. Part of a
>longer conversation on ACTA, the Internet and crowded places.
>
>full article here:
> http://www.studentsforfreeculture.eu/blog/2012/02/why-students-protest-
>acta/

Anyone here have an email address for Paula (the Polish computer science
student)?  Or just pass along this, which might be of interest:

  http://questioncopyright.org/promise/pl
  "Zapowiedź świata post-copyright"

(studentsforfreeculture.eu requires an account to leave comments, but
there's no open registration afaict).

-K
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andrea fassina | 10 Feb 20:20
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Public performance number of people?

Hey all


maybe someone knows the answer, but how many viewers need to be in a room before the show is considered a public performance?



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Greg Grossmeier | 10 Feb 20:43
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Re: Public performance number of people?

It depends.

<quote name="andrea fassina" date="2012-02-10" time="20:20:13 +0100">
> Hey all
> 
> maybe someone knows the answer, but how many viewers need to be in a room
> before the show is considered a public performance?
> 
> 
> 
> Ciao
> Andrea

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Rob Myers | 10 Feb 20:42
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Re: Public performance number of people?

On 10/02/12 19:20, andrea fassina wrote:
> 
> maybe someone knows the answer, but how many viewers need to be in a
> room before the show is considered a public performance?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Performing_rights

"Performances are considered "public" if they take place in a public
place and the audience is outside of a normal circle of friends and
family, including concerts, nightclubs, restaurants etc. Public
performance also includes broadcast and cable television, radio, and any
other transmitted performance of a live song."

So I think its more context than number, and so I'd guess one *if* it's
not your friend or family and it's not your apartment. But maybe there's
some useful case law on the subject.

- Rob.
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Adi Kamdar | 10 Feb 20:56
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Re: Public performance number of people?

Yeah, context is key—there aren't any hard lines or numbers. There also seems to be some deference to the nature of the performance—if it's commercial, if it's in an educational context, etc.


for example:


Adi



On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 2:42 PM, Rob Myers <rob <at> robmyers.org> wrote:
On 10/02/12 19:20, andrea fassina wrote:
>
> maybe someone knows the answer, but how many viewers need to be in a
> room before the show is considered a public performance?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Performing_rights

"Performances are considered "public" if they take place in a public
place and the audience is outside of a normal circle of friends and
family, including concerts, nightclubs, restaurants etc. Public
performance also includes broadcast and cable television, radio, and any
other transmitted performance of a live song."

So I think its more context than number, and so I'd guess one *if* it's
not your friend or family and it's not your apartment. But maybe there's
some useful case law on the subject.

- Rob.

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Karl Fogel | 10 Feb 21:19
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Re: Public performance number of people?

Adi Kamdar <adikamdar <at> gmail.com> writes:
>Yeah, context is key—there aren't any hard lines or numbers. There
>also seems to be some deference to the nature of the performance—if
>it's commercial, if it's in an educational context, etc.
>
>for example:
>
>http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/110.html

Remember: if you don't have to ask a lawyer, then the law isn't doing
its job :-).

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>On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 2:42 PM, Rob Myers <rob <at> robmyers.org> wrote:
>
>    On 10/02/12 19:20, andrea fassina wrote:
>    >
>    > maybe someone knows the answer, but how many viewers need to be
>    in a
>    > room before the show is considered a public performance?
>    
>    
>    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Performing_rights
>    
>    "Performances are considered "public" if they take place in a
>    public
>    place and the audience is outside of a normal circle of friends
>    and
>    family, including concerts, nightclubs, restaurants etc. Public
>    performance also includes broadcast and cable television, radio,
>    and any
>    other transmitted performance of a live song."
>    
>    So I think its more context than number, and so I'd guess one *if*
>    it's
>    not your friend or family and it's not your apartment. But maybe
>    there's
>    some useful case law on the subject.
>    
>    - Rob.
>    
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Thomas Levine | 10 Feb 23:37
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Re: Public performance number of people?

Hmm... if a video plays in a national park and no one is around to watch it, is it being performed publically?

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Karl Fogel <kfogel <at> questioncopyright.org> wrote:
Adi Kamdar <adikamdar <at> gmail.com> writes:
>Yeah, context is key—there aren't any hard lines or numbers. There
>also seems to be some deference to the nature of the performance—if
>it's commercial, if it's in an educational context, etc.
>
>for example:
>
>http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/110.html

Remember: if you don't have to ask a lawyer, then the law isn't doing
its job :-).

-K

>On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 2:42 PM, Rob Myers <rob <at> robmyers.org> wrote:
>
>    On 10/02/12 19:20, andrea fassina wrote:
>    >
>    > maybe someone knows the answer, but how many viewers need to be
>    in a
>    > room before the show is considered a public performance?
>
>
>    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Performing_rights
>
>    "Performances are considered "public" if they take place in a
>    public
>    place and the audience is outside of a normal circle of friends
>    and
>    family, including concerts, nightclubs, restaurants etc. Public
>    performance also includes broadcast and cable television, radio,
>    and any
>    other transmitted performance of a live song."
>
>    So I think its more context than number, and so I'd guess one *if*
>    it's
>    not your friend or family and it's not your apartment. But maybe
>    there's
>    some useful case law on the subject.
>
>    - Rob.
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Christian Curtis | 11 Feb 00:11
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Re: Public performance number of people?

    Yes.  The definition in 17 U.S.C. 101 uses the disjunctive.  Thus, if the place is open to the public, the number of attendees is irrelevant.

    --Christian

On 2/10/2012 2:37 PM, Thomas Levine wrote:
Hmm... if a video plays in a national park and no one is around to watch it, is it being performed publically?

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Karl Fogel <kfogel <at> questioncopyright.org> wrote:
Adi Kamdar <adikamdar <at> gmail.com> writes:
>Yeah, context is key—there aren't any hard lines or numbers. There
>also seems to be some deference to the nature of the performance—if
>it's commercial, if it's in an educational context, etc.
>
>for example:
>
>http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/110.html

Remember: if you don't have to ask a lawyer, then the law isn't doing
its job :-).

-K

>On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 2:42 PM, Rob Myers <rob <at> robmyers.org> wrote:
>
>    On 10/02/12 19:20, andrea fassina wrote:
>    >
>    > maybe someone knows the answer, but how many viewers need to be
>    in a
>    > room before the show is considered a public performance?
>
>
>    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Performing_rights
>
>    "Performances are considered "public" if they take place in a
>    public
>    place and the audience is outside of a normal circle of friends
>    and
>    family, including concerts, nightclubs, restaurants etc. Public
>    performance also includes broadcast and cable television, radio,
>    and any
>    other transmitted performance of a live song."
>
>    So I think its more context than number, and so I'd guess one *if*
>    it's
>    not your friend or family and it's not your apartment. But maybe
>    there's
>    some useful case law on the subject.
>
>    - Rob.
>
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