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Conor Schaefer | 1 Mar 2008 01:23
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Re: FTP Dump Site

I love this idea, but I also think it would be great for FC to
investigate launching a torrent tracker for broader distribution.
Perhaps that's lofty thinking, and certainly also require additional
resource commitment.

We'd never want to conflate piracy with FC, as Elizabeth knows full well
even the NYT isn't beyond doing, but isn't this somewhere we should be
heading? Trying to legitimize free, broad exchange of CC material?

I hope to see it one day, at least, but it would potentially require
substantial oversight to make sure that CC material is posted...

A thousand thumbs up to the FTP dump! Awesome work, board. =)

Fred Benenson wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
>   The new board recently met (me, Elizabeth, Christina, Brendan,
> Kevin) and one of the things we wanted to implement is a FTP "dump"
> site for media from various chapters. This is going to be in
> conjunction with the creation of a digital-media-care package that'll
> be creating in the next week or so (We're all meeting in NYC soon to
> work).
>
> Anyway, for now we'd encourage you to login to the FTP and start
> uploading the various media you've created for your club events. This
> is a really important way for the more established chapters to help
> out the ones just starting -- PSD Files, PDFs, presentations, anything
> you created for your club is perfect for this site.
>
> If you are running a chapter and would like access to this dump and
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Asheesh Laroia | 1 Mar 2008 01:44

Re: FTP Dump Site

On Sat, 1 Mar 2008, Conor Schaefer wrote:

> I love this idea, but I also think it would be great for FC to
> investigate launching a torrent tracker for broader distribution.
> Perhaps that's lofty thinking, and certainly also require additional
> resource commitment.

There are already a bunch of legal torrent trackers.  Of our limited time, 
I think it's probably better spent getting more activities on more college 
campuses.  http://www.azureuswiki.com/index.php/Legal_torrent_sites seems 
to be an actively-maintained list of them.

> We'd never want to conflate piracy with FC, as Elizabeth knows full well
> even the NYT isn't beyond doing, but isn't this somewhere we should be
> heading? Trying to legitimize free, broad exchange of CC material?
>
> I hope to see it one day, at least, but it would potentially require
> substantial oversight to make sure that CC material is posted...

That's the thing - I fear that it may be more work than it's worth, 
especially when others like wortharchiving.com are working on the same 
thing.

Having said that, I would *love* to see us use our bandwidth for *seeding* 
legal torrents.  That would be easy, and if someone knows of a good tool 
for making that easy, I would respond with enthusiasm and effort.

> A thousand thumbs up to the FTP dump! Awesome work, board. =)

And me, who set it up. (-;
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Fred Beneson | 1 Mar 2008 02:15
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Re: FTP Dump Site

Right of course!

Thank you Asheesh!

F

On Feb 29, 2008, at 7:44 PM, Asheesh Laroia <freeculture <at> asheesh.org>  
wrote:

> On Sat, 1 Mar 2008, Conor Schaefer wrote:
>
>> I love this idea, but I also think it would be great for FC to
>> investigate launching a torrent tracker for broader distribution.
>> Perhaps that's lofty thinking, and certainly also require additional
>> resource commitment.
>
> There are already a bunch of legal torrent trackers.  Of our limited  
> time,
> I think it's probably better spent getting more activities on more  
> college
> campuses.  http://www.azureuswiki.com/index.php/Legal_torrent_sites  
> seems
> to be an actively-maintained list of them.
>
>> We'd never want to conflate piracy with FC, as Elizabeth knows full  
>> well
>> even the NYT isn't beyond doing, but isn't this somewhere we should  
>> be
>> heading? Trying to legitimize free, broad exchange of CC material?
>>
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Gavin Baker | 1 Mar 2008 02:26
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Re: Words, phrases, and the coining thereof


William Norton wrote:
| Right, and I guess my point is that trying to fit all those ideas under
| one umbrella might not be useful.  Instead of trying to see what it
| looks like for free culture to win, why don't we concentrate on what it
| looks like for us to win for each of these individual issues?  I'm
| thinking of a group like Public Knowledge that would be really tough to
| explain outside of the individual issues it deals with.  Does that make
| sense?

That the work of Public Knowledge is "really tough to explain outside of
the individual issues it deals with" is bad news. That's not a status
quo we want to maintain. By and large, people respond to movements, to
visions for the future, rather than to specific policy issues.

Once upon a time, nobody saw any connection between the mother concerned
that the lake in which her children swim is polluted by the factory
upstream, and the farmer worried that in a drought he may not have
enough water for his crops, and the birdwatcher concerned with the loss
of habitat for endangered species. Today we say they're concerned about
the environment, and everybody knows what that means.

| If I was going to try to explain what free culture's core goals should
| be, I'd say something like this:  "Greater access to culture and
| creativity; less restrictions to use it."
|
| On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Gavin Baker <gavin <at> gavinbaker.com
| <mailto:gavin <at> gavinbaker.com>> wrote:
|
| William Norton wrote:
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Janet Hawtin | 1 Mar 2008 02:38
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People define things around their own perception of what is important.
some groups have worked to get support for specific sets of freedoms for participants in information and culture.
What scope is correct for the FC group? Is it something which has been defined in the org constitution?

Access to knowledge is a collection or movement around open information policy
http://www.cptech.org/a2k/
http://www.access2knowledge.org/cs/
http://www.oaklaw.qut.edu.au/

Richard Stallman has made his definitions of freedom in software explicit and concise.
http://www.fsf.org/licensing/essays/free-sw.html

Adelphi charter
http://www.adelphicharter.org/

CPTech
http://www.cptech.org/

IPJustice
http://ipjustice.org/

Freedom to tinker
http://www.freedom-to-tinker.com/

M Geist in CA
http://www.michaelgeist.ca/

Creative commons offers a range of options for copyright owners to define scope
http://creativecommons.org/



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Gavin Baker | 1 Mar 2008 02:53
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This is not the first time someone in this thread has referred back to
the Students for Free Culture organization or chapters, so I should be
explicit that I've been talking about the "free culture movement" and
not any specific organization.

But might there be some value in having a formal statement defining
"free culture", to be jointly drafted/endorsed by the various groups in
the sphere? I mean, we have a definition of "free cultural works", but
we lack a joint vision statement of free culture as a movement.

Janet Hawtin wrote:
| People define things around their own perception of what is important.
| some groups have worked to get support for specific sets of freedoms for
| participants in information and culture.
| What scope is correct for the FC group? Is it something which has been
| defined in the org constitution?
|
| Access to knowledge is a collection or movement around open information
| policy
| http://www.cptech.org/a2k/
| http://www.access2knowledge.org/cs/
| http://www.oaklaw.qut.edu.au/
|
| Richard Stallman has made his definitions of freedom in software
| explicit and concise.
| http://www.fsf.org/licensing/essays/free-sw.html
|
| Adelphi charter
| http://www.adelphicharter.org/
|
| CPTech
| http://www.cptech.org/
|
| IPJustice
| http://ipjustice.org/
|
| Freedom to tinker
| http://www.freedom-to-tinker.com/
|
| M Geist in CA
| http://www.michaelgeist.ca/
|
| Creative commons offers a range of options for copyright owners to
| define scope
| http://creativecommons.org/
|
|
|
|
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Janet Hawtin | 1 Mar 2008 03:01
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On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 12:23 PM, Gavin Baker <gavin <at> gavinbaker.com> wrote:
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This is not the first time someone in this thread has referred back to
the Students for Free Culture organization or chapters, so I should be
explicit that I've been talking about the "free culture movement" and
not any specific organization.

But might there be some value in having a formal statement defining
"free culture", to be jointly drafted/endorsed by the various groups in
the sphere? I mean, we have a definition of "free cultural works", but
we lack a joint vision statement of free culture as a movement.

And the groups below which you might want to collaborate with have a range of perspectives on that question.
It might be worth looking at the kinds of things they have chosen as a result of their engagement with the same process.
cptech have been working at WIPO on A2K and social functions of information so they have been involved in challenging processes where nations aim to identify and engage in agreed values.

Janet Hawtin wrote:
| People define things around their own perception of what is important.
| some groups have worked to get support for specific sets of freedoms for
| participants in information and culture.
| What scope is correct for the FC group? Is it something which has been
| defined in the org constitution?
|
| Access to knowledge is a collection or movement around open information
| policy
| http://www.cptech.org/a2k/
| http://www.access2knowledge.org/cs/
| http://www.oaklaw.qut.edu.au/
|
| Richard Stallman has made his definitions of freedom in software
| explicit and concise.
| http://www.fsf.org/licensing/essays/free-sw.html
|
| Adelphi charter
| http://www.adelphicharter.org/
|
| CPTech
| http://www.cptech.org/
|
| IPJustice
| http://ipjustice.org/
|
| Freedom to tinker
| http://www.freedom-to-tinker.com/
|
| M Geist in CA
| http://www.michaelgeist.ca/
|
| Creative commons offers a range of options for copyright owners to
| define scope
| http://creativecommons.org/
|
|
|
|
| ------------------------------------------------------------------------
|
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| Discuss mailing list
| Discuss <at> freeculture.org
| http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss

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Gavin Baker | 1 Mar 2008 04:26
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Choosing the Best License for a Wiki


is the topic of a recent column, which we've blogged at Open Access News:

http://www.earlham.edu/~peters/fos/2008/02/how-to-choose-best-license-for-wiki.html

It makes some odd assertions ("If you care about the community of people
who contribute to your wiki, then the Creative Commons' Non-Commercial
license is a good option"), so if anyone blogs a response, send me a
link and we'll add it to the OAN post.

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aphid | 1 Mar 2008 07:54
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to append,

Libre Society Manifesto: http://www.piratgruppen.org/spip.php?article55

see also: http://www.libresociety.org/~libre2/index.php?title=Main_Page

notice that their wiki (which is an articulation of libre society) has 
been overtaken by spam[1]; take from this what you will.

peace,
a

[1]"I am really excited. Very useful, i found lots of intresting things 
here. Your web site is helpful. Best regards!" is the only text on the 
main page which is not a link.

Janet Hawtin wrote:
> People define things around their own perception of what is important.
> some groups have worked to get support for specific sets of freedoms 
> for participants in information and culture.
> What scope is correct for the FC group? Is it something which has been 
> defined in the org constitution?
>
> Access to knowledge is a collection or movement around open 
> information policy
> http://www.cptech.org/a2k/
> http://www.access2knowledge.org/cs/
> http://www.oaklaw.qut.edu.au/
>
> Richard Stallman has made his definitions of freedom in software 
> explicit and concise.
> http://www.fsf.org/licensing/essays/free-sw.html
>
> Adelphi charter
> http://www.adelphicharter.org/
>
> CPTech
> http://www.cptech.org/
>
> IPJustice
> http://ipjustice.org/
>
> Freedom to tinker
> http://www.freedom-to-tinker.com/
>
> M Geist in CA
> http://www.michaelgeist.ca/
>
> Creative commons offers a range of options for copyright owners to 
> define scope
> http://creativecommons.org/
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
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soufron | 1 Mar 2008 08:03
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Re: Choosing the Best License for a Wiki

Write your own license and dual-license with whatever other stupid  
project you would like to work with... if you can put 10 licenses on  
it, it's even better since your user will be really free to use the  
one they prefer.

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Le 1 mars 08 à 04:26, Gavin Baker a écrit :

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> News:
>
> http://www.earlham.edu/~peters/fos/2008/02/how-to-choose-best-license-for-wiki.html
>
> It makes some odd assertions ("If you care about the community of  
> people
> who contribute to your wiki, then the Creative Commons' Non-Commercial
> license is a good option"), so if anyone blogs a response, send me a
> link and we'll add it to the OAN post.
>
> - --
> Gavin Baker
> http://www.gavinbaker.com/
> gavin <at> gavinbaker.com
>
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> the fisherman casts his line;
> another ripple
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